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Hello, I have been a creeper here for awhile but am needing help. Awhile ago I started with a commercial grow kit of GT, THIA, and MCK(not sure of full name). After a couple of flushes I decided to do a bulk monotub grow on the MCK, which according to the vendor are one of the strongest p.cubensis. I get huge fruits, (40to50g wet) but my wife and I generaly make tea and since being in the monotub we haven't been able to get anywhere with them, this last time we made tea with 100g fresh and still nothing. I have been reading a bit and can only find info relating to ms, but I'm not sure what ours would be considering I started our tub from the cake in the 1200ml growkit. They were bomb in the brf/vermiculite growkit, but small. In the tub the are HUGE, but useless and do not smell as strong either. I am fruiting at 72f to 74f and 95 to 100rh, my media is 1/4 cc, 1/4 humus/poo, 1/2 verm in a 54gal tub about 3" to 4". I have no contams, lots of fae. Any suggestions?
Potency tends to be genetic. You grabbed mycelium with genetics for large impotent fruits. But you've gained a lot of experience. If it was me, I'd take spores from the original potent mushrooms and start a fresh grow from there.
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Quote: natehead said: Hello, I have been a creeper here for awhile but am needing help. Awhile ago I started with a commercial grow kit of GT, THIA, and MCK(not sure of full name). After a couple of flushes I decided to do a bulk monotub grow on the MCK, which according to the vendor are one of the strongest p.cubensis. I get huge fruits, (40to50g wet) but my wife and I generaly make tea and since being in the monotub we haven't been able to get anywhere with them, this last time we made tea with 100g fresh and still nothing. I have been reading a bit and can only find info relating to ms, but I'm not sure what ours would be considering I started our tub from the cake in the 1200ml growkit. They were bomb in the brf/vermiculite growkit, but small. In the tub the are HUGE, but useless and do not smell as strong either. I am fruiting at 72f to 74f and 95 to 100rh, my media is 1/4 cc, 1/4 humus/poo, 1/2 verm in a 54gal tub about 3" to 4". I have no contams, lots of fae. Any suggestions?
We can't be sure of anything without pics. Most likely genetics.
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I have no more of them to take from as I used the entire brick as spawn for the tub. I guess the faster, larger growing myc took over(it grows as super thick strands and quickly too). I want to start a tub from the thia as they are both our favorites, but wondering if I should go a different route, I have cloned the thia on carboard just for grins and it worked well. I will have some picks up in a bit after I get home. Not sure what can be gleaned from them, after the last flush it started to look overlaid so I cased again and it is just starting to poke up in the valleys of the casing. Our thia are always great, I just picked a flush this morning.
I am having no problems with growing them, so am I better off replicating my system but whith my thai? They fruit evrey 4 days and are phenominaly potent, even in tea. We make tea once a week, it nearly rids my wife of paranoid schhizophrenia. It has made me a more evenly rounded person with a more wholesome out look. I would really like to get a monotub of my thai going but I don't want the same thing to happen. The thai have always been better than mck, but is there a chance that I could end up getting bad genetics from using my growkit brick for spawn in a new tub?
Quote: natehead said: We make tea once a week, it nearly rids my wife of paranoid schhizophrenia.
I have to say this - you really should not give a person with mental illness psychedelic drugs. It may work for now, but one day she might just completely go off the deep end and not come back.
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Quote: natehead said: We make tea once a week, it nearly rids my wife of paranoid schhizophrenia.
I have to say this - you really should not give a person with mental illness psychedelic drugs. It may work for now, but one day she might just completely go off the deep end and not come back.
Unfortunately not a lot of research is being done anymore. But supposedly psych mushrooms can do WONDERS in the medical world. They can be used to treat an assortment of things, including what his wife has. But again, not enough research is being done due to many countries' garbage bullshit laws....to the OP, not saying the problem is this, but our bodies build a crazy amount of tolerance for mushrooms. If you take them often they will not effect you.
-------------------- The mushrooms, which grow only during the season of torrential rains, awaken the forces of creation and produce an experience of spiritual abundance, of an astonishing, inexhaustible constitution of forms that identifies them with fertility and makes them a mediation, a means of communion, of communication between man and the natural world of which they are the metaphysical flesh.
On the mental illnesses read up on the gov funded studies @ john Hopkins university. A lot of the assumed ideas over the past few decades have been shown to be wrong, psycadelic are proving to be more effective than lithium, ssri, and other "meds". Psilosybin is completely curing ocd, schizophrenia, did, ptss, and other syndromes, at least that's what they have been publishing over the past year or so. But besides, that is our informed decision under psych care. Back to the cultivation, which is why I'm here, but thanks for your consern. I am wanting to start a tub with my thai, they all have been good were as the mck have fluctuated in potency in the grow kit and no potency in the tub. The thai have all fruited at the same time, same growth size, coloration etc. What is my best route for putting them in a tub, I do lack a pc. That is why I pasturized my current media, and broke up the cake and cased it. I was experimenting that's why I used the mck incase I messed it up, other than the bad genetics I have had great results, huge perfectly formed fruits and 0 contams and its been going for over 7 weeks. I have yet to have a bad flush from the thai, is there a good chance that the whole cake has good genetics, am I gambling if I follow the same method for them. The tub is sealed with all air exchange and humidification being well filtered. Can I use a cardboard clone to "seed" a new tub? I can get a 12"x12" peice of cardboard covered in a bout a week with the thai, it took a month for the mck to do the same. Or should I follow the same that I did first?
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Love hearing that stuff.... If your looking for consistent potency try Agar Work, Cloning, or Isolate.
