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 prettyMushy
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 regulation of new drugs!!!!! new market!! New Ze 
#16645109 - 08/05/12 02:13 AM (9 months, 14 days ago) |
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Re: regulation of new drugs!!!!! new market!! New Ze [Re: prettyMushy]
#16645161 - 08/05/12 02:27 AM (9 months, 14 days ago) |
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lol
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bryguy27007
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Re: regulation of new drugs!!!!! new market!! New Ze [Re: SheerTerror]
#16645319 - 08/05/12 03:24 AM (9 months, 14 days ago) |
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Whoa, is this for real?
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DebuteMachine
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Re: regulation of new drugs!!!!! new market!! New Ze [Re: bryguy27007]
#16645335 - 08/05/12 03:29 AM (9 months, 14 days ago) |
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you didnt post the articles text :P
i hopw this goes well for NZ
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At My Peak
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Re: regulation of new drugs!!!!! new market!! New Ze [Re: DebuteMachine]
#16645388 - 08/05/12 03:46 AM (9 months, 14 days ago) |
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Although I think legalizing RC's rather than "safe" drugs that have already been thoroughly tested is extremely unsafe and they are probably doing it to make money somehow or something, this is a step in the right direction. It has me thinking why they didn't just legalize cannabis, and other substances at first.
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Re: regulation of new drugs!!!!! new market!! New Ze [Re: At My Peak]
#16645402 - 08/05/12 03:51 AM (9 months, 14 days ago) |
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What substances are "safe"? I havbt heard of any.
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At My Peak
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Re: regulation of new drugs!!!!! new market!! New Ze [Re: PeterPanda209]
#16645433 - 08/05/12 04:02 AM (9 months, 14 days ago) |
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"safe" as in I put them in quotations to signify that I was referring to substances commonly known to be less physically harmful than most other substances we could put into our own bodys. Obviously nothing is "safe" you are just starting an argument for no reason that pops up every week somewhere on the shroomery. Safe as in, through mine and other peoples observations and studies I have found that cannabis is a lot more "safe" than poisons, such as arsenic. Wherever that line is drawn between safe and unsafe it is subjective obviously. Nobody on the shroomery needs to hear another rant on this subject, we already know. Now I don't know why I have to explain to you what I meant when I said the word "safe" unless you're just trying to sound like a smart ass here.
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Re: regulation of new drugs!!!!! new market!! New Ze [Re: At My Peak]
#16645454 - 08/05/12 04:14 AM (9 months, 14 days ago) |
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I think youve misunderstood what the beginning of an argument looks like.
I simply stated a disagreement (hardly mind you)...
You argued the point, you got hasty, you took it farther.
Seems you have had to defend yourself quite a bit, my reason to belie e this is based off your knee jerk reaction to flip the conversation switch into defense mode!
Anyways, you used one correct word in your rant... "subjective".
Lets be honest, you and "other people" can believe whatever you want it doesn't make marijuana "safe". Sure compared to other things marijuana is "safe" but so is slitting your wrists. Slitting your wrists is safer than taking a fully automatic 50cal to your brain, doesn't make it "safe".
<<<<really? You taught me nothing.
You're just another one of those natural drugs elitests =\
Thinking some drugs are safe and others aren't.
You created an argument and tried to toss the blame at me before I even said anything, kinda silly don't you think? Lol
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At My Peak
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Re: regulation of new drugs!!!!! new market!! New Ze [Re: PeterPanda209]
#16645475 - 08/05/12 04:22 AM (9 months, 14 days ago) |
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I'm not a "natural drug elitist" I don't think any substance of any kind is better than another. Objects are just objects and we can put them in our bodies if we want, but the fact is if I smoke 10 grams of cannabis, I'm not going to die. However if I smoke 10 grams of spice I will most likely die. To me that signifies that cannabis is safer than synthetic cannabinoid blends. At least physically. And yeah it's subjective, so we gauge how safe one thing is in comparison to another, just like everything else in this life. If people were born with two options, to shoot themselves in the head or slit their wrists, and you observed 2 people do 1 of each you would believe that slitting your wrist is safer based on the results you just observed. It's simple really. So in your theory you might as well plug a few grams of bath salts while huffing paint thinner and drinking gasoline because It's as safe as anything else.
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Re: regulation of new drugs!!!!! new market!! New Ze [Re: At My Peak]
#16645523 - 08/05/12 04:43 AM (9 months, 14 days ago) |
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You completely used the word "fact" incorrectly, thus rendering the majority if not total of your opinion/post flawed.
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DebuteMachine
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Re: regulation of new drugs!!!!! new market!! New Ze [Re: PeterPanda209]
#16645557 - 08/05/12 05:03 AM (9 months, 14 days ago) |
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jwh-018 is non toxic, according to an anonymous lab report. looking online to find it. that's probably what they mean by safe.
also, stfu.
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Re: regulation of new drugs!!!!! new market!! New Ze [Re: DebuteMachine]
#16645959 - 08/05/12 09:22 AM (9 months, 14 days ago) |
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Quote:
Although I think legalizing RC's rather than "safe" drugs that have already been thoroughly tested is extremely unsafe and they are probably doing it to make money somehow or something, this is a step in the right direction. It has me thinking why they didn't just legalize cannabis, and other substances at first.
You misunderstood the problem. You cannot legalize the well studied drugs as a government, even if you wanted to, because of two UN conventions prohibiting their legalization. You can thank your own country for that. (AMERICA, WE'RE NUMBER 1!!!!)
However, you can control the RCs and officially regulate the market, because those substances are not illegal on an international level. If this works out well, it is HUGE!
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jack_straw2208
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Re: regulation of new drugs!!!!! new market!! New Ze [Re: Lord_McLovin]
#16646588 - 08/05/12 12:40 PM (9 months, 14 days ago) |
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FIGHT!! FIGHT!!! FIGHT!!
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Epiglottis
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Re: regulation of new drugs!!!!! new market!! New Ze [Re: jack_straw2208]
#16647447 - 08/05/12 03:52 PM (9 months, 14 days ago) |
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Any substance that "gives you the high you want" has the potential to be addictive. It doesn't matter if it's a fruit of nature or manufactured in a lab. You can't engineer the addictive property out of a chemical that provides its user with a pleasurable sensation because the addictive property is the experience of pleasure itself.
Anyways, fuck that synthetic shit. It's probably worse for you than the real thing. I looked into moving to New Zealand, but heard a ton of bad stuff. Anyone from there?
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Re: regulation of new drugs!!!!! new market!! New Ze [Re: Epiglottis]
#16647965 - 08/05/12 05:27 PM (9 months, 14 days ago) |
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Synthetics ARE a real thing. Plant sources are the gifts of Earth. Lab drugs are the gift of an evolved, intelligent species.
Recreational, pharma or otherwise; Each synthetic compound is measured in it's efficacy and potential danger. Sometimes very dangerous, sometimes entirely harmless. Lumping all together and saying "fuck that shit" assuming its 'worse for you' is an error.
New Zealand is on the right track. They appear to be doing what all governments SHOULD demand; inspection of products for potential dangers and instead of blanket bans, a regulated market of approved Psychoactives.
THIS approach is what will reduce disasters and tragedies. THIS approach will undermine the careless and dangerous crews who only care to make big money at the expense of our health. THIS plan will open up the topic of 'recreational drugs' to be considered honestly and without fear of prosecution.. Which means the truth is more likely to come out and disinformation will begin to dissapear.
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Re: regulation of new drugs!!!!! new market!! New Ze [Re: Awebig]
#16648774 - 08/05/12 07:43 PM (9 months, 13 days ago) |
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Drugs marketed as synthetic cannabis are often nothing close to cannabis in their chemical makeup.
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Awebig said:
Synthetics ARE a real thing. Plant sources are the gifts of Earth. Lab drugs are the gift of an evolved, intelligent species.
By your naive cheerleading, I'm guessing that you believe society has been on this linear track of "progress" that will culminate in shiny happy people living in a shiny happy utopia. Better living through chemistry, DERP. Like I said before, "FUCK THAT SHIT." I'll stick with the all natural and you can keep puffing on that dirty shit. Enjoy! 
More and more people are coming to their senses, turning to things like organic and raw foods, eschewing all the synthetic/artificial garbage, and looking back to nature for their medicine and their health. Western civilization with its preconceived notions of what constitutes progress and an evolved society can eat a fat dick.
Edited by Epiglottis (08/05/12 07:54 PM)
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Re: regulation of new drugs!!!!! new market!! New Ze [Re: Epiglottis]
#16648830 - 08/05/12 07:52 PM (9 months, 13 days ago) |
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they give you different highs, one isn't better than the other.
keep up with your nazi elitism there.
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Epiglottis
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Re: regulation of new drugs!!!!! new market!! New Ze [Re: DebuteMachine]
#16648851 - 08/05/12 07:55 PM (9 months, 13 days ago) |
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keep up with your nazi elitism there.
Nazi elitism? LoL. Message boards are for fags. Peace
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Re: regulation of new drugs!!!!! new market!! New Ze [Re: Epiglottis]
#16648890 - 08/05/12 08:01 PM (9 months, 13 days ago) |
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From someone who has made 100posts a month here 
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Re: regulation of new drugs!!!!! new market!! New Ze [Re: Epiglottis]
#16650600 - 08/06/12 12:36 AM (9 months, 13 days ago) |
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Dip yer pecker in humus all you want... You're likely to die just like everyone else.
You won't be as high though.
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