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 Wild, hot weather Oyster 
#16513169 - 07/11/12 09:12 AM (10 months, 2 days ago) |
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Here on the east coast, we just got over a killer heat wave, which really messed with our production because we don't have a reliable cooling system in place yet. Our golden oysters are still doing well, but greys won't fruit at all in this heat. So as I'm coming up the driveway after a week of 90+ temps, with the final day of the heat wave reaching 102F, looks what I find fruiting from an old oak stump......
I'm really amazing that this beauty was looking so fresh after the intense heat that we've had. You better believe I have some fresh plates ready to clone this!
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Nice! Let me know if you wind up with extras!
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Dropped tissue samples on 10 plates today. We'll see what happens...
 
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Nice! Let me know if you wind up with extras!
I'll let ya know if it works out to be a good culture.
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 Also interested in warm weather oyster.
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Re: Wild, hot weather Oyster [Re: t3chnobily]
#16519089 - 07/12/12 12:21 PM (10 months, 1 day ago) |
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Hell yeah. Hopefully it works out for you. One of my best commercial oyster strains "213" is a wild cloned variety found in direct sunlight. It was on a recently deceased tree in the middle of a field by itself sharing the tree with Polyporus squamosus. Because if this is is heat and drought tolerant. Also it is the only oyster strain i had that never got infected if bacterial blotch (possibly resistant) when i had a huge outbreak a while back. A wild strain like that could really be a winner for fruiting in extreme (as well as optimal) conditions.
Enjoy!
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Re: Wild, hot weather Oyster [Re: Aleon]
#16519337 - 07/12/12 01:14 PM (10 months, 1 day ago) |
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Very cool. Those are the genetics you want to grab and work with. Nature has already done the isolation now just hope it likes domestic life. If it does you will have a winner.
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Re: Wild, hot weather Oyster [Re: trout]
#16646392 - 08/05/12 11:44 AM (9 months, 8 days ago) |
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Surprisingly, it only took 1-2 transfers from the original plates to get a clean culture. I have some rye spawn colonizing now which will be ready for straw this week.
So far it seems like a very aggressive oyster. We're calling them Ivory Oysters. Will update with pics once we see some fruit.
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Good news WJ.
Let us know how the tests go.
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Re: Wild, hot weather Oyster [Re: Javadog]
#16646584 - 08/05/12 12:39 PM (9 months, 8 days ago) |
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That IS great news, WJ.
Did you get a chance to taste them and compare with the flavor of other oysters?
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woodland_jewel said:
Here on the east coast, we just got over a killer heat wave, which really messed with our production because we don't have a reliable cooling system in place yet. Our golden oysters are still doing well, but greys won't fruit at all in this heat. So as I'm coming up the driveway after a week of 90+ temps, with the final day of the heat wave reaching 102F, looks what I find fruiting from an old oak stump......
I'm really amazing that this beauty was looking so fresh after the intense heat that we've had. You better believe I have some fresh plates ready to clone this!
cheers.
The most important factor is how is the taste and texture? I've not found hot weather oyster strains or species to have the same quality as their low temp cousins.
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That is fine RR if you have a choice of what to fruit. The only way to grow oysters in the summer here is to have them in the house or find an extreme hot weather variety. If they are at least edible I would like to grow outside. Otherwise most oysters are off the menu May till October.
Can't wait to see some fruits.
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Re: Wild, hot weather Oyster [Re: trout]
#16649174 - 08/05/12 08:58 PM (9 months, 8 days ago) |
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We'll have to see. I should have tasted the original cluster. Although I was able to clone it immediately, I didn't have a chance to cook them before they were past their prime. They smelled great though.
If they fruit well on straw, I should have some to sample very soon.
I can say that the texture was was much better and denser than any other oyster that I've grown so far this summer. Caps were nice and firm. I have a strong feeling that this is going to be a great strain.
More to come...
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The most important factor is how is the taste and texture? I've not found hot weather oyster strains or species to have the same quality as their low temp cousins.
RR
I agree, taste is so impt. the "Elm" is a classic case of strong grower but it's bitter.
Sajor Caju fruits in hot temps and is delicious too. Other than kings, it's the best oyster IMO.
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Re: Wild, hot weather Oyster [Re: sparkle]
#16652305 - 08/06/12 10:43 AM (9 months, 7 days ago) |
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I have found a way to make wide range oysters strains retain their sturdiness during hot weather. I have been doing %30bran on my sawdust blocks for oysters. It takes an extra 2-3 weeks colonization(doubling the incubation time), but they have extreme sturdiness and shelf-life. As well as yields are slightly elevated. So IMO with a higher N supplement content, their will be higher density of the fruits. I have read this before, but now i have personally experienced it.
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Re: Wild, hot weather Oyster [Re: Aleon]
#16652451 - 08/06/12 11:20 AM (9 months, 7 days ago) |
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Excellent data Aleon!
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Re: Wild, hot weather Oyster [Re: Javadog]
#16652481 - 08/06/12 11:27 AM (9 months, 7 days ago) |
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Aleon, can you have that much supplement with just pasteurizing or do you sterilize?
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Re: Wild, hot weather Oyster [Re: sparkle]
#16656853 - 08/06/12 11:06 PM (9 months, 7 days ago) |
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Aleon, where do you source your saw dust from?
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I sterilize my subs, and have never tried N supplementing using pasteurization as the heat treatment.
I used to get it from a local sawmill, but i realized that it was always a different mix of woods; so ended up sticking with the mixed hardwood or pure oak pellets. I can store over a ton of dry sawdust pellets in a 4'x4' space in my basement right next to the mixing area with my cement mixer. A ton of fresh dust from the mill looked like shit in my yard( i also do not have a covered barn/shed for rain-proof storage) and i always had to lug the sawdust down at the time of mixing. Now i just carry the whole ton of pellets down in 30min (the farm is in my 2200ft2 basement) and they are ready to go in the morning when i get up to make blocks. As well as the moisture content of the fresh dust i was getting always changed, and it takes a little extra time to get it just right; whereas pellets i add the same h20 every time and it perfect. Also pellets have a really good resistance to contams from the get go. Recently i have been use them as bedding for my chickens and they after sun drying i have been using the manure filled pellets for my pioppinos. My first blocks supplemented with chicken manure are going to be put into FC soon. Pellets work well, as does fresh dust. The pellets really fit into my scenario, but each person must look at their own options to find the best source of sub for their OP.
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