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 Dan4th
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 Re: Research on MDMA/Ecstasy experiences of adults on autism spectrum  [Re: randyjohnson]
#16502198 - 07/09/12 03:26 AM (11 months, 2 days ago) |
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Are you also interested in aspergers? I fit the criteria 100% plus i have plenty of experiences with MDMA and other psychedelics. You say that only an interview is what you're wanting, if you're interested let me know.
Most of the participants in the study meet the criteria for Asperger's.
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Re: Research on MDMA/Ecstasy experiences of adults on autism spectrum [Re: Dan4th]
#16529506 - 07/14/12 10:56 AM (10 months, 28 days ago) |
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The Adult Autism and MDMA Research Study
I am a PhD student in clinical psychology at the Institute of Transpersonal Psychology in Palo Alto, California. My area of interest is investigating the therapeutic potential of psychedelic medicines and similar compounds, including their risks and benefits.
If you are an adult on the autism spectrum (age 21 - 75), I invite you to participate in a survey study for my doctoral dissertation on what experiences with MDMA/Ecstasy are like for adults with autism and Asperger's Syndrome. You are not required to have taken Ecstasy or any other recreational drug to participate. This study will compare responses from individuals who have tried Ecstasy and individuals who have not tried Ecstasy.
Participants will be asked to complete an online version of the 50-question Autism Quotient (AQ). The next step is a research survey, which includes questions about demographic information and responses to general questions about MDMA/Ecstasy use. Three additional assessments follow. The process takes about one hour. Your confidentiality will be maintained at all times, and identifying information will never appear in published reports, lectures, or any other public sharing of study results.
Participants who complete all of the surveys will have the option to receive a summary report of the key findings from the finished study.
Inclusion/exclusion criteria, researcher contact information, and enrollment instructions are listed on the study Web site: www.danforthresearch.com
NOTE: If you do not have an ASD diagnosis but think that you might be on the spectrum, the surveys for this study will not provide you with diagnostic information.
i think small amounts of cactus would work better than mdma. also, if you do give people mdma consider using cactus to buffer the comedown. it really works. just a couple small pieces, not really enough to have much of an effect on it's own, causes a dreamy euphoria that leads to sleep, on the way down from mdma. of course i'm assuming you'll be doing your scientific research late saturday night lol. best of luck. : )
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Re: Research on MDMA/Ecstasy experiences of adults on autism spectrum [Re: Dan4th]
#16539173 - 07/16/12 02:28 PM (10 months, 26 days ago) |
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Your study sounds intriguing. For quite a few years now the thought has occupied my mind that cannabis and/or MDMA and/or magic mushrooms may be a treatment providing some measurable amount of improvement for individuals with autism. Call it an intuitive hunch. I have noticed that when I try one of these three drugs (I believe myself to possess some traits of Aspergers) my symptoms appear to mitigate. I would be very interested in learning about the progress and results of your study. Is there a web site you have set up where one can monitor/learn more about the study, etc?
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Dan4th
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Re: Research on MDMA/Ecstasy experiences of adults on autism spectrum [Re: ck76]  2
#16544536 - 07/17/12 02:58 PM (10 months, 25 days ago) |
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ck76 said:
Is there a web site you have set up where one can monitor/learn more about the study, etc?
I have set up a Facebook page with information and occasional updates on the study's progress: https://www.facebook.com/#!/DanforthResearch
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Re: Research on MDMA/Ecstasy experiences of adults on autism spectrum [Re: Dan4th]
#16562622 - 07/21/12 01:52 AM (10 months, 21 days ago) |
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Re: Research on MDMA/Ecstasy experiences of adults on autism spectrum [Re: DeadHearts]
#16569129 - 07/22/12 05:53 PM (10 months, 20 days ago) |
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I have a official diagnose of Asperger/pdd-nos. I have had allot of experience with mushrooms but not with mdma.
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Dan4th
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Re: Research on MDMA/Ecstasy experiences of adults on autism spectrum [Re: Anand] 1
#16572433 - 07/23/12 05:21 AM (10 months, 19 days ago) |
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I have a official diagnose of Asperger/pdd-nos. I have had allot of experience with mushrooms but not with mdma.
I am collecting data sets from MDMA-naive participants for this study for comparison to data from MDMA-experienced individuals, so you can enroll if you feel inspired.
Mushrooms have been mentioned frequently in interviews as a subtheme. I hope someone decides to write a dissertation on the psilocybin experiences of adults on the spectrum.
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Re: Research on MDMA/Ecstasy experiences of adults on autism spectrum [Re: Dan4th]
#16636741 - 08/03/12 12:13 AM (10 months, 9 days ago) |
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Interesting i wonder the effect of psilocybin?
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Re: Research on MDMA/Ecstasy experiences of adults on autism spectrum [Re: SullyDigi7al]
#16648732 - 08/05/12 07:35 PM (10 months, 6 days ago) |
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I am on the extreme end of the empathetic spectrum, but ironically my brother has Aspergers.
This may not be entirely relevant, but I have noticed Mescaline producing longer lasting effects of pronounced empathy, in contrast to MDMA;
which seems to have very pronounced effects while under the influence, but often having little to no long lasting effects after the experience.
I would strongly urge to look into Mescaline rather than MDMA; speaking from my own bioassays and the bioassays of those I have known to display symptoms of Aspergers (including my brother).
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 Re: Still need 10 more survey sets (out of 100) [Re: Dan4th]
#16683685 - 08/11/12 09:11 PM (10 months, 4 hours ago) |
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I know it's summer only in the Northern Hemisphere, but it feels as if the entire world is on vacation. Data gathering has been slow since July, so I still need 10 more survey sets from adults on the spectrum who have tried Ecstasy. (As of August 11, 2012, I have 90 completed survey sets.) The control group of non-MDMA users is complete.
The interview process has been interesting, and I only need one more interview. This month (August), I am transitioning from data gathering to data analysis. If you think you might want to participate in this study, please be aware that data gathering is nearing a close.
Thanks to all who have contributed so far!
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Re: Still need 10 more survey sets (out of 100) [Re: Dan4th]
#16708190 - 08/16/12 09:10 AM (9 months, 26 days ago) |
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I live with my girlfriends brother (and my gf) He is 30 years old this year and is a savant with Aspergers.
He can draw perfectly symmetrical drawings of extreme detail with ball point pen making not one mistake creating perfect pictures every time. He in fact did my business logo which most people think was made on the computer because of the perfect lines.
He has smoked weed for years now and especially since living with me enjoys having a good toke not only because it relaxes him but also it gives him one more subject to relate to others about.
He is able to communicate rather well, and trusts and loves both of us very well so that is not an issue. However, he is "mind blind" and misses social cues that other's see as somewhat offensive.
Food has been a big comfort to him through out his life and he has always used it to cope when he is depressed. He also recently discovered he was transexual and has been working with a sex therapist to help him understand better and make changes in his life to be what he wants to be someday.
I recently have introduced him to mushroom or psilocybin tea in low doses and he seemed to enjoy it thoroughly.
He does not get scared easily or worried so I am not worried about him freaking out but because he has enjoyed the tea in smaller quantified doses, I am thinking of increasing gradually the dose so that he can feel what its like. He really enjoyed the low doses as they brought out his creativity, but I am curious to see what effect the higher doses would have on his ability to feel and see empathy/read situations. I am actively keeping track of this, by not tripping and sitting with him throughout the experience. He really seems to open up a lot as a person and I am excited what this research may bring.
I myself don't use MDMA and advise him not to use it also simply because most of the Ecstasy around here is full of shit and meth.
However he may be interested in participating if the study is not exclusive to MDMA alone, considering he has never used it.
I am a therepist for children on the spectrum with autism and I wish more people (society and parents) would open up to this kind of treatment. It really is amazing!!
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Re: Still need 10 more survey sets (out of 100) [Re: Brain Fart]
#16708326 - 08/16/12 10:02 AM (9 months, 26 days ago) |
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From my own experiences he will become aware of the social cues but may/will not understand them. Be very careful with larger doses as I have temporarily had severe depression and temporary psychosis well after coming down. Upon becoming aware of certain aspects I didn't pick up on before I became confused. After a single large dose he may become aware of empathy for a while but slowly recede back to being oblivious to it. Small doses of any substance, even weed, after his first "breakthrough" will be enough for him to feel and express these emotions but he will need your and your gf's support. I'm sure you will be cautious of this as I can tell from your post you do care for him. Be very careful after his large dose as delirium and depression was very present for around a week till I just accepted it them than slowly diminished. He may/will not express the symptoms of depression or delirium but be cautious of this.
With MDMA he will be able to express empathy more but I don't believe he will pick up on it like with psilocybin.
These are from my experiences with it, I express symptoms of light aspergers syndrome however am not diagnosed. These experiences will be different for him but just sharing mine so you have a possible idea of what to expect.
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Re: Still need 10 more survey sets (out of 100) [Re: modern.shaman]
#16708954 - 08/16/12 12:59 PM (9 months, 26 days ago) |
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Thank you my friend for the input. I make tea usually with about 10 grams fresh cubes which was very small.
I do not plan to exceed 2-3(20-30 fresh) grams for the tea I make, which I tell him to slowly sip until he feels like he wants to sip more.
I was very impressed with his openess to discuss new things. Normally he only talks about what he likes but on the tea he seemed genuinly interested in other's thoughts/opinions. It was very beautiful to see. I will take care and use caution though thank you for the input.
I learn everyday from people on the Autism spectrum. They are the true monks/Ghandis of our lifetime.
"The meek shall inherit the earth"
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Re: Still need 10 more survey sets (out of 100) [Re: Brain Fart]
#16726614 - 08/19/12 03:07 PM (9 months, 23 days ago) |
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im new but maybe its just me.. what does this have to do with mushroom cultivation?
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Re: Still need 10 more survey sets (out of 100) [Re: MycoChick]
#16726861 - 08/19/12 03:47 PM (9 months, 23 days ago) |
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im new but maybe its just me.. what does this have to do with mushroom cultivation?
It is a part of the website announcements, so it can be found in all the forums. 
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Re: Research on MDMA/Ecstasy experiences of adults on autism spectrum [Re: MagicalOrangutan]
#16752884 - 08/29/12 09:45 AM (9 months, 13 days ago) |
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solitary_deadhead said: I am a dad
Are your kids autistic/aspergers? Just wondering
My boy is autistic. My daughter isn't.
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Re: Research on MDMA/Ecstasy experiences of adults on autism spectrum [Re: automan]
#16757688 - 08/30/12 02:22 AM (9 months, 12 days ago) |
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solitary_deadhead said: I am a dad
Are your kids autistic/aspergers? Just wondering
My boy is autistic. My daughter isn't.
Does she show signs of having aspergers or autism?
Also, is the mother of your children aspergers or autistic?
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Re: Research on MDMA/Ecstasy experiences of adults on autism spectrum [Re: MagicalOrangutan]
#16758400 - 08/30/12 08:27 AM (9 months, 12 days ago) |
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Re: Still need 10 more survey sets (out of 100) [Re: Brain Fart]
#16759286 - 08/30/12 01:14 PM (9 months, 12 days ago) |
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I just read your post about your girlfriends aspergian brother. Its fascinating to hear about how psychedelics affect him.
If/when you progress to a higher dose with him, you should defiantly make a thread. I'm very intrigued to here about where psychedelics take him.
Cheers,
MrCkb
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Re: Still need 10 more survey sets (out of 100) [Re: mrckb]
#16765123 - 08/31/12 01:11 PM (9 months, 11 days ago) |
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mrckb said:
I just read your post about your girlfriends aspergian brother. Its fascinating to hear about how psychedelics affect him.
If/when you progress to a higher dose with him, you should defiantly make a thread. I'm very intrigued to here about where psychedelics take him.
Cheers,
MrCkb
Just did 2 nights ago. He very much enjoyed it and has been opening up/learning a lot more then he usually is interested in lately since the doses. I'm very pleased but will continue to progress very sowly. He is also starting to gain some self-esteem which is very very good
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