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InvisibleVore

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Dangers of mixing oils?
    #16624427 - 07/31/12 08:50 PM (9 months, 15 days ago)

Howdy. A recipe for pancakes called for just oil no butter, sounded disgusting so I decided to make the mix with butter and slap a thin layer of oil on the griddle. It was vegetable not olive, so I heard that was okay. Just wondering what people know about oils - which ones are DO-NOT mix with low temperature combustion etc.

Btw, I'm glad I used butter. Its so rich I want to puke.


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Re: Dangers of mixing oils? [Re: Vore]
    #16624489 - 07/31/12 09:02 PM (9 months, 15 days ago)

the only oils I wont mix with cooking oils are machine oils and many essential
oils which honestly arent essential because they taste bad in pancakes


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Re: Dangers of mixing oils? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #16625294 - 07/31/12 11:47 PM (9 months, 15 days ago)

It brings the smoke point up...


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Re: Dangers of mixing oils? [Re: Brainiac]
    #16625333 - 07/31/12 11:56 PM (9 months, 15 days ago)

Say what now?


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Re: Dangers of mixing oils? [Re: Brainiac]
    #16626969 - 08/01/12 10:54 AM (9 months, 14 days ago)

TV cooking show personalities say that adding butter and olive oil together increases the temperature of the smoke point, but it doesn't make any sense to me. Whole butter still has milk solids, and the milk solids will burn at the same temperature, regardless of what other oil you add.


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Re: Dangers of mixing oils? [Re: Vore]
    #16628252 - 08/01/12 03:08 PM (9 months, 14 days ago)

adding an oil such as grapeseed oil to a veggie oil can raise the smoke point
which can benefit the flavor of the foods in addition to preventing the oil
from flashing

http://www.goodeatsfanpage.com/collectedinfo/oilsmokepoints.htm


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Re: Dangers of mixing oils? [Re: Vore]
    #16628683 - 08/01/12 04:27 PM (9 months, 14 days ago)

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Vore said:
Howdy. A recipe for pancakes called for just oil no butter, sounded disgusting so I decided to make the mix with butter and slap a thin layer of oil on the griddle. It was vegetable not olive, so I heard that was okay. Just wondering what people know about oils - which ones are DO-NOT mix with low temperature combustion etc.

Btw, I'm glad I used butter. Its so rich I want to puke.




If I'm reading this right you heard it's not okay to mix butter and olive oil? :wtf:


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Re: Dangers of mixing oils? [Re: NizzyJones]
    #16629510 - 08/01/12 07:20 PM (9 months, 14 days ago)

I did indeed, but it was probably bullshit.


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Re: Dangers of mixing oils? [Re: Vore]
    #16633090 - 08/02/12 12:31 PM (9 months, 13 days ago)

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I decided to make the mix with butter and slap a thin layer of oil on the griddle.




If your just putting oil down onto the griddle then you are not mixing the two, your just adding a lubricant.

When cooking I dont often consider butter an oil.  Butter just has too much water and too many characteristics that you can't find in oil for me to put them into the same category.


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Re: Dangers of mixing oils? [Re: GabbaDj]
    #16634259 - 08/02/12 04:33 PM (9 months, 13 days ago)

He/she could cook the butter into ghee, then mix the two....


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Re: Dangers of mixing oils? [Re: Brainiac]
    #16635108 - 08/02/12 07:22 PM (9 months, 13 days ago)

Yup, clarified butter subs. pretty well for most things.


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Re: Dangers of mixing oils? [Re: Vore]
    #16637326 - 08/03/12 01:53 AM (9 months, 13 days ago)

Don't worry about it! I mix 'em all the time. Just from personal experience I've found that putting some olive oil down in a pan before putting a slab of butter in keeps the butter from burning up too quickly. It just sort of melts into the oil and gives it that nice buttery flavor.

Anecdote! I have an ex-girlfriend who was trying to make chili from a recipe she found on the internet. Now it was an awful recipe and there were all these typos in it and one of the things it called for was heating spices in oil and then later adding some water to it (I know, I know. WTF?) This girl was dumb enough to actually do it and she wound up with some tiny oil burns on her face and oil stains all over the walls.

So to make a long story short, ACID into WATER never WATER into ACID. Etc. Etc.


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Re: Dangers of mixing oils? [Re: hippopotamu5]
    #16637391 - 08/03/12 02:05 AM (9 months, 13 days ago)

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Don't worry about it! I mix 'em all the time. Just from personal experience I've found that putting some olive oil down in a pan before putting a slab of butter in keeps the butter from burning up too quickly. It just sort of melts into the oil and gives it that nice buttery flavor.




hmmm what do you think about mixing the oil and butter vs. mixing the butter with the baked good (pancakes in this scenerio) then laying the oil down? The main reason I didn't use just butter is because I didn't want the butter to burn.

Funny story too :awesome:


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Re: Dangers of mixing oils? [Re: Vore]
    #16637484 - 08/03/12 02:33 AM (9 months, 13 days ago)

I think they're both perfectly acceptable things to do it just depends on whether you're cooking or baking and what you're cooking or baking. I'm usually frying some kind of vegetable or tofu in a pan and that's why I melt the butter into the oil (to flavor the food that I'm frying). With a pancake mixing the butter in with the batter and then cooking it on an oiled griddle sounds like a fine idea. I feel like a lot of people use PAM cooking spray when making pancakes and other baked goods that have butter mixed in and that's essentially just pressurized canola oil.

Although with pancakes I guess you could always use less fats in the pancake itself and put a pat of butter on it at the table.


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Re: Dangers of mixing oils? [Re: GabbaDj]
    #16649867 - 08/05/12 10:48 PM (9 months, 10 days ago)

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I decided to make the mix with butter and slap a thin layer of oil on the griddle.




If your just putting oil down onto the griddle then you are not mixing the two, your just adding a lubricant.

When cooking I dont often consider butter an oil.  Butter just has too much water and too many characteristics that you can't find in oil for me to put them into the same category.





you must be using margarine because butter has very little water, around the same as most oils, about 14%


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Re: Dangers of mixing oils? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #16652185 - 08/06/12 09:49 AM (9 months, 10 days ago)

Or really cheap butter - the good stuff has much less water cotent then store brand.


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Re: Dangers of mixing oils? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #16654525 - 08/06/12 05:52 PM (9 months, 9 days ago)

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I decided to make the mix with butter and slap a thin layer of oil on the griddle.




If your just putting oil down onto the griddle then you are not mixing the two, your just adding a lubricant.

When cooking I dont often consider butter an oil.  Butter just has too much water and too many characteristics that you can't find in oil for me to put them into the same category.





you must be using margarine because butter has very little water, around the same as most oils, about 14%




Really?  I guess I just assumed it was water because when I heat butter it sizzles, foams and splatters on its own.  When I heat oil it just does nothing.  I've never herd of anyone deep frying anything in butter.

Then again I only go through a pound of butter about every 8 months.  I've been in my new place for a year now and I just bought a new pound a month ago and have only used part of a stick to make buttered noodles.


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Re: Dangers of mixing oils? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #16654919 - 08/06/12 06:48 PM (9 months, 9 days ago)

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Prisoner#1 said:you must be using margarine because butter has very little water, around the same as most oils, about 14%



What? Are you saying that most oil is about 14% water?


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Re: Dangers of mixing oils? [Re: GabbaDj]
    #16655053 - 08/06/12 07:07 PM (9 months, 9 days ago)

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GabbaDj said:
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I decided to make the mix with butter and slap a thin layer of oil on the griddle.




If your just putting oil down onto the griddle then you are not mixing the two, your just adding a lubricant.

When cooking I dont often consider butter an oil.  Butter just has too much water and too many characteristics that you can't find in oil for me to put them into the same category.





you must be using margarine because butter has very little water, around the same as most oils, about 14%




Really?  I guess I just assumed it was water because when I heat butter it sizzles, foams and splatters on its own.  When I heat oil it just does nothing.  I've never herd of anyone deep frying anything in butter.

Then again I only go through a pound of butter about every 8 months.  I've been in my new place for a year now and I just bought a new pound a month ago and have only used part of a stick to make buttered noodles.




Minimum USDA required milk fat percentage in butter is 80%, good butter (esp. unsalted) is closer to 100% than 80%.


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Re: Dangers of mixing oils? [Re: NizzyJones]
    #16660115 - 08/07/12 01:56 PM (9 months, 8 days ago)

i always use butter combined with oil when i cook bacon.
Butter gets the nice color and taste , oil makes it extra crispy.
I also did combine butter and oil for pancakes (was no normal butter actually , it was "upgraded :wink: ).

Btw people , make sure you buy real butter. Cream butter made by local farmers is the best!


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