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[SHROOMERY DISCUSSION] Death, DMT, and the Afterlife.
#16622937 - 07/31/12 04:49 PM (9 months, 14 days ago) |
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So I was thinking about DMT before I went to bed last night.
Many Users of DMT have related experiences.
Lets start by assuming these 2 points:
1.)DMT is a drug that takes your consciousness somewhere else. 2.)When you die copious amounts of DMT are released.
IMPORTANT:None of the above is backed by Scientific fact, it really hasn't been found out yet.
But if you believe that 1 & 2 are fact, please ponder the below questions.
So my question is: When you die, where does your consciousness go?
Does it stay in your body, are your just a human being hallucinating?
Is it flung across the universe? Does this mean a possible afterlife?
I googled "DMT relesing when you die" and this is what I found:http://www.mysticbanana.com/scientifically-does-the-surge-of-dmt-released-upon-death-provide-real-proof-of-the-likelihood-of-an-afterlife.html
I'm really not leaning on this issue any certain way, just sparked a little bit of curiosity in my mind last night.
Feel free to state your opinion or post anything related to this tread.
Thanks Everyone.
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Edited by HalluciNate (07/31/12 06:11 PM)
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Re: [SHROOMERY DISCUSSION] Death, DMT, and the Afterlife. [Re: HalluciNate] 2
#16622960 - 07/31/12 04:53 PM (9 months, 14 days ago) |
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DMT is not released in large amounts when you die. That is a myth. There is also no evidence suggesting it makes your consciousness go somewhere else. Consciousness is a property of an active brain, and when you die, your consciousness ceases to exist.
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Anyone notice this?"
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Re: [SHROOMERY DISCUSSION] Death, DMT, and the Afterlife. [Re: Memories] 1
#16622980 - 07/31/12 04:57 PM (9 months, 14 days ago) |
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End thread.
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Re: [SHROOMERY DISCUSSION] Death, DMT, and the Afterlife. [Re: Memories]
#16622993 - 07/31/12 05:00 PM (9 months, 14 days ago) |
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Any sources that confirms its a myth?
Many people report seeing similar things on DMT.
Outer Space seems to be where your consciousness goes.
Consciousness in terms of:The state of being awake and aware of one's surroundings.
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Re: [SHROOMERY DISCUSSION] Death, DMT, and the Afterlife. [Re: HalluciNate]
#16623065 - 07/31/12 05:14 PM (9 months, 14 days ago) |
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Any sources that confirms its a myth?
Seeing as how you made the original claim, whose responsibility do YOU think it is to provide backing?
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Re: [SHROOMERY DISCUSSION] Death, DMT, and the Afterlife. [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
#16623337 - 07/31/12 06:01 PM (9 months, 14 days ago) |
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OrgoneConclusion said:
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Any sources that confirms its a myth?
Seeing as how you made the original claim, whose responsibility do YOU think it is to provide backing?
"Dimethyltryptamine, or “DMT,” is a chemical produced in the pineal gland (between the two hemispheres of your brain) that is released in great quantities when you are born and when you die. "
Source:http://www.evolver.net/user/internalcloud/blog/dmt_and_beauty_delirium
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Re: [SHROOMERY DISCUSSION] Death, DMT, and the Afterlife. [Re: HalluciNate]
#16623352 - 07/31/12 06:02 PM (9 months, 14 days ago) |
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While I am sure you mean well, a blog is not a valid source.
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Re: [SHROOMERY DISCUSSION] Death, DMT, and the Afterlife. [Re: HalluciNate]
#16623357 - 07/31/12 06:03 PM (9 months, 14 days ago) |
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So my question is: When you die, where does your consciousness go?
When I smash a CD, where does the music go?
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Re: [SHROOMERY DISCUSSION] Death, DMT, and the Afterlife. [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
#16623396 - 07/31/12 06:07 PM (9 months, 14 days ago) |
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Sh-hit.
Time, to make this thread Hypothetical.
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Re: [SHROOMERY DISCUSSION] Death, DMT, and the Afterlife. [Re: HalluciNate]
#16623427 - 07/31/12 06:11 PM (9 months, 14 days ago) |
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So you want to discuss what happens based on erroneous information? What would be the point?
Let's discuss what the world would be like without gravity and if there was only one gender.
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Re: [SHROOMERY DISCUSSION] Death, DMT, and the Afterlife. [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
#16623444 - 07/31/12 06:12 PM (9 months, 14 days ago) |
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OrgoneConclusion said: So you want to discuss what happens based on erroneous information? What would be the point?
Let's discuss what the world would be like without gravity and if there was only one gender.
If you don't like the thread,
Leave.
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Re: [SHROOMERY DISCUSSION] Death, DMT, and the Afterlife. [Re: HalluciNate] 1
#16623457 - 07/31/12 06:14 PM (9 months, 14 days ago) |
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Ummmm... no!
What is there to like? At least you failed to answer a simple question. I can see you will be a valuable & contributing member here.
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Re: [SHROOMERY DISCUSSION] Death, DMT, and the Afterlife. [Re: HalluciNate]
#16623481 - 07/31/12 06:17 PM (9 months, 14 days ago) |
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They are right. You can speculate all you want but nothing suggests either of the claims. Sometimes we must realize that what we want to be true is not what is actually true. If you can gather any evidence for either of your claims then we can discuss this further.
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Re: [SHROOMERY DISCUSSION] Death, DMT, and the Afterlife. [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
#16623497 - 07/31/12 06:19 PM (9 months, 14 days ago) |
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I said I wasn't really leaning any which way on the topic.
But, what do you think happens when you die OrgoneConclusion?
Thanks for the post The_Aviator.
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Re: [SHROOMERY DISCUSSION] Death, DMT, and the Afterlife. [Re: HalluciNate]
#16623535 - 07/31/12 06:25 PM (9 months, 14 days ago) |
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Quid pro quo.
Still waiting for you to answer my question. Making me ask repeatedly is not conducive to discussion nor will it make you any new friends.
So far we have a dozen posts, zero content and you want to continue the trend.
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Re: [SHROOMERY DISCUSSION] Death, DMT, and the Afterlife. [Re: HalluciNate]
#16623583 - 07/31/12 06:31 PM (9 months, 14 days ago) |
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HalluciNate said:
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OrgoneConclusion said: So you want to discuss what happens based on erroneous information? What would be the point?
Let's discuss what the world would be like without gravity and if there was only one gender.
If you don't like the thread,
Leave.
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Re: [SHROOMERY DISCUSSION] Death, DMT, and the Afterlife. [Re: LunarEclipse]
#16623603 - 07/31/12 06:34 PM (9 months, 14 days ago) |
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What if you lose your balls while still alive?
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Re: [SHROOMERY DISCUSSION] Death, DMT, and the Afterlife. [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
#16623633 - 07/31/12 06:39 PM (9 months, 14 days ago) |
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OrgoneConclusion said: What if you lose your balls while still alive?
you can’t die without balls, where the fuck would you go?
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Re: [SHROOMERY DISCUSSION] Death, DMT, and the Afterlife. [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
#16623637 - 07/31/12 06:40 PM (9 months, 14 days ago) |
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OrgoneConclusion said:
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So my question is: When you die, where does your consciousness go?
When I smash a CD, where does the music go?
Oh shit, if you meant this question I didn't see it.
This question really makes me think.
The music is still on the CD. The CD still holds the information, but no longer has the ability to play it.
If the brain dies, the information is still in your brain. But the brain, no longer living, doesn't have the ability to do anything with it. All your memory enzymes just sit in a lifeless skull.
But if, let me add another if for you,IF DMT is released upon death, and in a large quantity. Could a human mind achieve a loss of time and forever be lost in its own working? Until the enzymes and matter eventually breakdown and decompose.
Sorry about that, I thought you were talking about your question before that.
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Re: [SHROOMERY DISCUSSION] Death, DMT, and the Afterlife. [Re: Trypppy]
#16623655 - 07/31/12 06:43 PM (9 months, 14 days ago) |
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Trypppy said:
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OrgoneConclusion said: What if you lose your balls while still alive?
you can’t die without balls, where the fuck would you go?
A bowling alley?
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