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OfflineRemix
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Lake County investigators confiscate designer drugs, guns, $100K
    #16622818 - 07/31/12 04:25 PM (9 months, 14 days ago)

The Lake County Sheriff’s Office officials said today that investigators confiscated 22 kilograms of the popular "designer drug" K-2, guns, heroin, cannabis and almost $100,000 in cash following a three month undercover drug investigation targeting retail stores.

"What it really means is what we've done for the community," said Chief Wayne Hunter, of the Lake County Sheriff's Department. "We took 22 kilograms of K-2 off the street. This is the new plague upon our land. This stuff is geared toward children, kids."

He said the sheriff’s office executed six search warrants and made buy at various businesses in Lake County during the investigation.  K-2, also know as "spice" and a slew of other street names, has generated controversy across the Midwest, Hunter said.

"It's sold under the counter," he said. "It's not legal. It's a controlled substance. From my perspective it's far worse than smoking marijuana. The kids that are smoking K-2 are smoking chemical compounds."

Police said search warrants were served on at least six Lake County businesses in the last week said and various amounts of drugs, cash, weapons and property have been seized by investigators.

Investigators allegedly found 1,894 grams of K-2, in individually 568 wrapped packages in the Ma & Pa’s Grocery store at 37737 Green Bay Road in Beach Park. Sammer Z. Kartoum, 31 of the same address, has been charged with felony unlawful possession of controlled substance and unlawful delivery of controlled substance, police said.

"It's mostly people under 23 that are buying it," Hunter said.

He said the investigation continues, and more felony charges are expected against other store owners in the next few weeks.

"It's a very complicated process," he said. "We have to do three drug buys from every location in order to ask for a warrant. In addition, because it's such a new drug, it's a designer drug, we actually have to collect lab reports identifying this substance as being named in the controlled substances act, before we can act."


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Re: Lake County investigators confiscate designer drugs, guns, $100K [Re: Remix]
    #16624089 - 07/31/12 07:52 PM (9 months, 14 days ago)

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From my perspective it's far worse than smoking marijuana. The kids that are smoking K-2 are smoking chemical compounds



As if THC isn't a chemical compound...
Nicotine in cigarettes.
Caffeine is a fucking stimulant for fuck's sake and it's in our coffee every morning. Simply being a chemical compound alone doesn't warrant criminalization.

These people are retarded.


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Re: Lake County investigators confiscate designer drugs, guns, $100K [Re: Remix]
    #16625247 - 07/31/12 11:39 PM (9 months, 14 days ago)




we actually have to collect lab reports identifying this substance as being named in the controlled substances act, before we can act."




You don't say? You have to make sure someone is breaking the law before you arrest them, eh? News to me...


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Re: Lake County investigators confiscate designer drugs, guns, $100K [Re: BluShoes]
    #16625251 - 07/31/12 11:40 PM (9 months, 14 days ago)

22 kilos of spice? What the fuck?


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Re: Lake County investigators confiscate designer drugs, guns, $100K [Re: Guernica]
    #16627584 - 08/01/12 01:11 PM (9 months, 13 days ago)

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Guernica said:
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From my perspective it's far worse than smoking marijuana. The kids that are smoking K-2 are smoking chemical compounds



As if THC isn't a chemical compound...
Nicotine in cigarettes.
Caffeine is a fucking stimulant for fuck's sake and it's in our coffee every morning. Simply being a chemical compound alone doesn't warrant criminalization.

These people are retarded.




thats a stuypid comment to say o THC isnt a chemical compound. Sure it is.
But its not SYNTHETIC man made crap that will totally destroy u dude.
Lol, read between the lines man.
Come on your not that fucking dumb. How can u compare weed to bathsalts?
What kind of vermin are you?


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Re: Lake County investigators confiscate designer drugs, guns, $100K [Re: Biffzilla]
    #16627858 - 08/01/12 01:58 PM (9 months, 13 days ago)

Man-made does not necessarily mean it's more dangerous than nature. He's not comparing weed to bathsalts in terms of safety. He is just saying that they are both chemical compounds, and criminalizing something simply because it is a chemical compound regardless of safety is ridiculous. What kind of illiterate ignoramus are you?


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Re: Lake County investigators confiscate designer drugs, guns, $100K [Re: D.M.T]
    #16632149 - 08/02/12 05:48 AM (9 months, 12 days ago)

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D.M.T said:
Man-made does not necessarily mean it's more dangerous than nature. He's not comparing weed to bathsalts in terms of safety. He is just saying that they are both chemical compounds, and criminalizing something simply because it is a chemical compound regardless of safety is ridiculous. What kind of illiterate ignoramus are you?



Well said.


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Re: Lake County investigators confiscate designer drugs, guns, $100K [Re: Mycjunky]
    #16638125 - 08/03/12 06:36 AM (9 months, 11 days ago)

read between the lines, professor.
How many people gone and went nuts off bathsalts.
Don't get all uppity on your lil horse there, son.
You know exactly as well as I do what is implicit when I'm defending the chemicals in weed to in this case, the chemz in bathsalts.
Your semantics are far below the actual point of reason here.


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Re: Lake County investigators confiscate designer drugs, guns, $100K [Re: Biffzilla]
    #16638269 - 08/03/12 07:52 AM (9 months, 11 days ago)

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Biffzilla said:
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Guernica said:
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From my perspective it's far worse than smoking marijuana. The kids that are smoking K-2 are smoking chemical compounds



As if THC isn't a chemical compound...
Nicotine in cigarettes.
Caffeine is a fucking stimulant for fuck's sake and it's in our coffee every morning. Simply being a chemical compound alone doesn't warrant criminalization.

These people are retarded.




thats a stuypid comment to say o THC isnt a chemical compound. Sure it is.
But its not SYNTHETIC man made crap that will totally destroy u dude.
Lol, read between the lines man.
Come on your not that fucking dumb. How can u compare weed to bathsalts?
What kind of vermin are you?




Vermin? As if "natural" means holy, and synthetic equals "evil"? What kind of logic is that? This kind of horseshit is all too common now a days, bong hit logic, christ. . .


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Re: Lake County investigators confiscate designer drugs, guns, $100K [Re: Amanitadine]
    #16638626 - 08/03/12 09:46 AM (9 months, 11 days ago)

that you lack the discretion to avoid bath salts, is all I meant.
I don't smoke weed dude.
Its bong hit logic to defend crap like bath salts, dude.

Thats one of the reasons people like William Leonard Pickard is in jail for life, wiki the guy
he paid about 40 million dollars to research future drug policy he had warned that designer drugs would cause havoc, that was about 20 years ago he said that. he was the biggest acid cook in history, cooked up 5 kg of cid a month...

But you kids nowadays, u dont respect the more reliable "classic" drugs.
No, I see a future of people taking whatever garbage they can to get a "high"...

I didn't say synthetic = evil.
I mean bathsalts = crap.

And no natural isn't necessarily holy either. Just look at shit like ephedrine and datura . Its fucking crap. dandruff off the devils cock, is what.


THIS JUST HERALDS A PARADIGM SHIFT from the GOOD OL TIMES
when shrooms acid dope heroine crack and a few other fucked up drugs lik meth was all people needed. Well known  substances with a long historical relationship with humans. Now this new shit, hybrid molecules like hooks in yer brain.
nothing normal

But its your decisions.

BATH SALTS ARE GREAT!!!!

THATS WHY THEYRE LEGAL MAN!!!


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Re: Lake County investigators confiscate designer drugs, guns, $100K [Re: Biffzilla]
    #16639379 - 08/03/12 01:40 PM (9 months, 11 days ago)

Whaaaaa? I am guessing English is not your first language, right? Maybe you have a point there, but I sure as hell missed it. Nobody is defending bath salts, they are just rightly pointing out the errors in your logic, that because something is new and synthetic it is bad. You made the natural/synthetic schism dude face, or did you forget already?

A paradigm shift from the good old times? Ahhh, so you are afraid of things that you don't understand, or things newer than you. Much like society felt about marijuana a few decades ago.

Making shit up to further a case that already is so ambiguous and contradictory doesn't help things. And what does Pickard have to do with it anyway? 40 million dollars eh? Pulled that one out of your ass. 5 kilos a month? Hardly, his defense stated a kilo every 5 weeks, for a couple months out of the year. But what does this have to do with bath salts?

Kids nowadays don't respect the "classic" drugs? Huh?

Since you are old, and afraid, I'll break it down for you. "bath salts" are not a drug. It is a branding for various substances, almost always beta-ketones. Beta ketones are the amphetamine skeleton with an oxygen added on the beta carbon. This changes the NE/DA ratios and goes from more efflux to re-uptake inhibition. This skeleton, much like amphetamine, can be modified to change it's activity, and skirt laws. That's all bath salts are. Nothing to be terrified of, no hysteria and ignorance needed. The media frenzy around bath salts now is almost all BS, scare tactics, and fear mongering. Much like reefer madness in the 30's, LSD in the 60's, PCP in the 80's, meth in the 90's. Drugs are not inherently evil. Ignorance and stupidity are.

* before you dismiss me as a crazed bath salt swilling cannibal I shall add I don't enjoy beta ketones, much like I don't enjoy amphetamines. I just don't like misinformation being spewn by terrified old men. But alas, such is amerika. .


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