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Rail_Gun said:
My first girlfriend and I were both virgins. I'd be more eager to have sex with a virgin woman. It means she's unscarred (not screwed up in the head) by bad emotional relationships. If you can get one of those girls and keep them loyal and she cooks it's the type of woman to marry.

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Rail_Gun said:
My first girlfriend and I were both virgins. I'd be more eager to have sex with a virgin woman. It means she's unscarred (not screwed up in the head) by bad emotional relationships. If you can get one of those girls and keep them loyal and she cooks it's the type of woman to marry.

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This is so retardedly untrue it's not even funny. Plenty of virgin women have been scarred from bad relationships, mostly from FAMILY. And as a matter of fact, one of the reasons they could be virgins is precisely because of that very reason. So, nice try, but no. False reasoning.

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Rail_Gun said:
My first girlfriend and I were both virgins. I'd be more eager to have sex with a virgin woman. It means she's unscarred (not screwed up in the head) by bad emotional relationships. If you can get one of those girls and keep them loyal and she cooks it's the type of woman to marry.

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This is so retardedly untrue it's not even funny. Plenty of virgin women have been scarred from bad relationships, mostly from FAMILY. And as a matter of fact, one of the reasons they could be virgins is precisely because of that very reason. So, nice try, but no. False reasoning.

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pfxtc said:
losing my virginity was the most unspectacular thing that's ever happened to me
of course the sex was awful however

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Lynnch said:
2 or 3 breakups = damaged goods? Everybodys got to go through it.

Virgins tend to get clingy, and are usually still overly romantic... I prefer a girl who's learned a thing or two, who knows what she wants.

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I totally agree. When I was a virgin, I was way clingier and annoyingly dependent on men. I also exploded with rage really easily towards guys I was interested in, because I had learned from my parents, and always thus assumed it was the standard way to act in a relationship towards somebody. I am far more stable and nicer in my current relationships, having had the breadth of experience that I do, and having interacted with a myriad of different men and attitudes on the spectrum.

2 or 3 breakups = damaged goods, that's funny. So what do you do when you're above 25 years old, and most people your age range have likely had AT LEAST over 5+ breakups in their lifetime?

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Lynnch said:
2 or 3 breakups = damaged goods? Everybodys got to go through it.

Virgins tend to get clingy, and are usually still overly romantic... I prefer a girl who's learned a thing or two, who knows what she wants.

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I totally agree. When I was a virgin, I was way clingier and annoyingly dependent on men. I also exploded with rage really easily towards guys I was interested in, because I had learned from my parents, and always thus assumed it was the standard way to act in a relationship towards somebody. I am far more stable and nicer in my current relationships, having had the breadth of experience that I do, and having interacted with a myriad of different men and attitudes on the spectrum.

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Anonymous said:
your relationships dont seem to last though, so your obviously not doing something right. right? therefore your not a good example

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My relationships don't last because I'm incredibly picky about who I decide to be with. I have impossibly high standards, and never ever want to compromise my ideals simply to "settle." I'd rather be single than with somebody who I don't like, which is why I'm single and only "casually dating" most of the time. CASUAL SEX FUH TUH WIN.

Also, my longest relationship was approximately 4-5 years, which ended when he relapsed at a time I was trying to get my life back together. I've had 3 serious relationships in my lifetime, which I would say is about average for my age range.

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Cabinet_Sanchez said:
I think it's sort of interesting and sad that female virgins are fetishized and male virgins are undesirable or the subject of mockery.  The sex is going to be bad regardless of whether the virgin is a chick or a dude.  I assume it's come about because men are less able to distinguish between good and bad sex because they just want to pound vagina and it doesn't matter to them, whereas women actually have to have good sex to have a good time.  Or at least they're less likely to care.  That, and men have some need to prove themselves through sexual conquest while slut shaming women for enjoying themselves.  It's been a pretty brutal tool of patriarchy to fetishize female virgins which is unfortunate.

Saying that women are damaged goods after 2 or 3 ended relationships is pretty stupid, and also an attitude likely to remove 99% of all women from your dating pool.  So I guess carry on with that if you want to be alone for the rest of your life.  And like, weirdly misogynistic and condescending toward an entire gender.

Anyways in my opinion it's pretty irrelevant whether someone is a virgin if you're coming at it from the perspective of whether or not to sleep with them.  I mean, it's probably going to be awkward and kind of lame sex, but it's never going to get better until you get it out of the way.  There's a certain amount of sentimentality from the person who's a virgin I suppose, and you might want to put things in a more realistic context for them afterward so they don't start clinging to you as a forever fantasy thing.

My first time I used a condom and couldn't get off after humping for like more than an hour, and then we got caught by her dad.  It was pretty hilarious, although terrifying for me at the time.

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pfxtc said:
losing my virginity was the most unspectacular thing that's ever happened to me
of course the sex was awful however

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Hahaha, same here! It was with a nice guy who I had been friends with for a very long time. He was sweet about it but I remember thinking, "...that's it? that's sex?" afterwards. Talk about a wham, bam, thank you ma'am. Thankfully, as the old adage goes: it does get better.

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Crystal G said:
There's nothing wrong with being with a girl who's a virgin, especially if you are young and have had less than a handful of sexual partner yourself, but I think there is something severely demented and wrong with a guy who has a virgin-only fetish. Like he's mainly getting off to the idea of corrupting her or something. That is specifically the kind of guy you DON'T want to lose your virginity to.

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Cabinet_Sanchez said:
I think it's sort of interesting and sad that female virgins are fetishized and male virgins are undesirable or the subject of mockery.  The sex is going to be bad regardless of whether the virgin is a chick or a dude.  I assume it's come about because men are less able to distinguish between good and bad sex because they just want to pound vagina and it doesn't matter to them, whereas women actually have to have good sex to have a good time.  Or at least they're less likely to care.  That, and men have some need to prove themselves through sexual conquest while slut shaming women for enjoying themselves.  It's been a pretty brutal tool of patriarchy to fetishize female virgins which is unfortunate.

Saying that women are damaged goods after 2 or 3 ended relationships is pretty stupid, and also an attitude likely to remove 99% of all women from your dating pool.  So I guess carry on with that if you want to be alone for the rest of your life.  And like, weirdly misogynistic and condescending toward an entire gender.

Anyways in my opinion it's pretty irrelevant whether someone is a virgin if you're coming at it from the perspective of whether or not to sleep with them.  I mean, it's probably going to be awkward and kind of lame sex, but it's never going to get better until you get it out of the way.  There's a certain amount of sentimentality from the person who's a virgin I suppose, and you might want to put things in a more realistic context for them afterward so they don't start clinging to you as a forever fantasy thing.

My first time I used a condom and couldn't get off after humping for like more than an hour, and then we got caught by her dad.  It was pretty hilarious, although terrifying for me at the time.

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maybe your gay. also theres nothing wrong with being with a girl whose a virgin, its all about what your into. everyone is different. and a good portion of the girls whose been fucked over a couple times are corrupted and become essentially abnormal to some degree or not, like i said everyone is different, generalizations are wrong but theres a little bit of everything out there

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Cabinet_Sanchez said:
I think it's sort of interesting and sad that female virgins are fetishized and male virgins are undesirable or the subject of mockery.  The sex is going to be bad regardless of whether the virgin is a chick or a dude.  I assume it's come about because men are less able to distinguish between good and bad sex because they just want to pound vagina and it doesn't matter to them, whereas women actually have to have good sex to have a good time.  Or at least they're less likely to care.  That, and men have some need to prove themselves through sexual conquest while slut shaming women for enjoying themselves.  It's been a pretty brutal tool of patriarchy to fetishize female virgins which is unfortunate.

Saying that women are damaged goods after 2 or 3 ended relationships is pretty stupid, and also an attitude likely to remove 99% of all women from your dating pool.  So I guess carry on with that if you want to be alone for the rest of your life.  And like, weirdly misogynistic and condescending toward an entire gender.

Anyways in my opinion it's pretty irrelevant whether someone is a virgin if you're coming at it from the perspective of whether or not to sleep with them.  I mean, it's probably going to be awkward and kind of lame sex, but it's never going to get better until you get it out of the way.  There's a certain amount of sentimentality from the person who's a virgin I suppose, and you might want to put things in a more realistic context for them afterward so they don't start clinging to you as a forever fantasy thing.

My first time I used a condom and couldn't get off after humping for like more than an hour, and then we got caught by her dad.  It was pretty hilarious, although terrifying for me at the time.

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maybe your gay. also theres nothing wrong with being with a girl whose a virgin, its all about what your into. everyone is different. and a good portion of the girls whose been fucked over a couple times are corrupted and become essentially abnormal to some degree or not, like i said everyone is different, generalizations are wrong but theres a little bit of everything out there

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Huh?  I don't really see how anything I said has anything to do with being gay.  Does not fetishizing virgins and having a concept of how women are oppressed make one gay?  At any rate you are wrong; I rather like the poontang, and I have an amazing beautiful girlfriend who literally teaches other women how to be sexy for a living.

You're right that there isn't anything wrong with being into a girl who is a virgin.  I would question someone who is into a girl BECAUSE she is a virgin, although I don't think that's inherently bad necessarily... I'm not really sure.  It is true that there are women that have been fucked up by relationships that ended poorly.  There are probably equally many men in the same position.  And I would say from my observations that men are more likely to stupidly never learn from past relationships and how their behavior affects other people because they would rather externalize their problems and blame women or call them crazy rather than change themselves.

Also it doesn't make sense to me to be like "chicks become abnormal after x number of breakups."  It presumes that there's some sort of objective normalcy between people, which isn't true, and I think you're implying that it would be better for people to be "normal" which is also kind of bullshit.  I would say probably most people have been fucked up and shitty because of relationships or any other reason at some point in their lives, so it seems more normal for that to happen than for someone to be naively sequestered in some fantasy of nothing ever going wrong or never being fucked up.

Finally I suspect that as a general trend, virgins are probably not great relationship material because they have not had to consider a lot of the implications of having intimacy with people.  But they have to learn somewhere and it's not exactly like there's any 100% rule for who is going to be good or bad in a relationship.

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Crystal G said:
There's nothing wrong with being with a girl who's a virgin, especially if you are young and have had less than a handful of sexual partner yourself, but I think there is something severely demented and wrong with a guy who has a virgin-only fetish. Like he's mainly getting off to the idea of corrupting her or something. That is specifically the kind of guy you DON'T want to lose your virginity to.

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wtf corrupting? feminizing again, like holy fuck you turn everything negative against a dude. i dont think even close to  1/4 the guys go into a relationship thinking like that. your not a guy, do not try and be one. although there are a little bit of everything, im sure, most of them like the idea of them being a virgin for the fact that they aren't corrupted and that the female will Only Love the boyfriend who took there virginity, also they become more rare and they on the side are certainly made up to be something special growing up.

i did have a virgin fetish, not overly but its certainly never a bad thing, it makes you feel like you play and have a big role in the others life. especially when its the first for both. Sex always gets better with time, and proper communication. you can't instantly assume she will be bad and will always be bad, simply not true.

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Crystal G said:
There's nothing wrong with being with a girl who's a virgin, especially if you are young and have had less than a handful of sexual partner yourself, but I think there is something severely demented and wrong with a guy who has a virgin-only fetish. Like he's mainly getting off to the idea of corrupting her or something. That is specifically the kind of guy you DON'T want to lose your virginity to.

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wtf corrupting? feminizing again, like holy fuck you turn everything negative against a dude. i dont think even close to  1/4 the guys go into a relationship thinking like that. your not a guy, do not try and be one. although there are a little bit of everything, im sure, most of them like the idea of them being a virgin for the fact that they aren't corrupted and that the female will Only Love the boyfriend who took there virginity, also they become more rare and they on the side are certainly made up to be something special growing up.

i did have a virgin fetish, not overly but its certainly never a bad thing, it makes you feel like you play and have a big role in the others life. especially when its the first for both. Sex always gets better with time, and proper communication. you can't instantly assume she will be bad and will always be bad, simply not true.

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A real virgin FETISH typically implies plunder for sure. Guys are fucking dicks Anon#1, now stop being a big fat pussy and reveal who you are.

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only if its the basis for the relationship, because the focus is the virginity factor which is one part of the females life that will be stationary in time and doesn't seem to be more approve and be open to adapting to each others future lifestyle wants and needs.

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Dungmaster said:
A guys fetish for a virgin comes from an egotistical place of wanting to be important or significant to, or at the very least remembered by the girl.
There is only one guy that takes a girls virginity and typically they would be remembered. I think thats were the attraction to having sex with a virgin comes from, the fact that it only happens once in a girls life. Also some guys are attracted to the feeling of control they get from getting to teach someone, to take them into territory they have never been.

And yes there are a lot of ass holes that would get off at the idea of having sex with a virgin simply to be the one to 'cash in on her innocents'  without having any good intentions for her, and that sucks but its true; I've met a few, They are douchebag.

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itchmynipple said:
girls certainly do, they want there 1st to have them as there first.


i know i did, so why wouldn't this work and happen the other way around especially if the female is generally Alot more emotional in the field of love/virginity

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itchmynipple said:
girls certainly do, they want there 1st to have them as there first.


i know i did, so why wouldn't this work and happen the other way around especially if the female is generally Alot more emotional in the field of love/virginity

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Crystal G said:
Yea I agree with you on the age and naievity thing. When I was younger, I admired and wanted to date virgin guys. Now that I'm in my mid 20s, I feel that it is slightly creepy for me to pursue or desire virgins. Men who are above a certain age, likewise, really shouldn't be desiring virgins. I feel it is inappropriate after a certain age.

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apassionplay said:
If you knew someone was a virgin, would that sway your decision on whether or not to have sex with them? What is your opinion on sex with virgins?

Have you ever slept with a virgin?


I wonder if the general attitude and opinion of this would change with gender or sexual orientation.

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Cabinet_Sanchez said:
Why does nobody fetishize virgin men?  Or do gay guys?  I actually don't know.

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itchmynipple said:
girls certainly do, they want there 1st to have them as there first.

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Crystal G said:
Yea I agree with you on the age and naievity thing. When I was younger, I admired and wanted to date virgin guys. Now that I'm in my mid 20s, I feel that it is slightly creepy for me to pursue or desire virgins. Men who are above a certain age, likewise, really shouldn't be desiring virgins. I feel it is inappropriate after a certain age.

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apassionplay said:
If you knew someone was a virgin, would that sway your decision on whether or not to have sex with them? What is your opinion on sex with virgins?

Have you ever slept with a virgin?


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apassionplay said:
If you knew someone was a virgin, would that sway your decision on whether or not to have sex with them? What is your opinion on sex with virgins?

Have you ever slept with a virgin?


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Yeah, I have casually slept with a virgin. I will only do this again when I actually have feelings for a girl, for both of us. Although at the times she seemed a bit relieved after that, once it was over and was no longer a virgin.

If it happens, happens, but I suggest not going to lose it for just the sake of getting rid of it. Then again, I am a guy.

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apassionplay said:
If you knew someone was a virgin, would that sway your decision on whether or not to have sex with them? What is your opinion on sex with virgins?

Have you ever slept with a virgin?


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Yeah, I have casually slept with a virgin. I will only do this again when I actually have feelings for a girl, for both of us. Although at the times she seemed a bit relieved after that, once it was over and was no longer a virgin.

If it happens, happens, but I suggest not going to lose it for just the sake of getting rid of it. Then again, I am a guy.

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candyflip420 said:
Ive never had sex with a virgin

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Dungmaster said:
A guys fetish for a virgin comes from an egotistical place of wanting to be important or significant to, or at the very least remembered by the girl.
There is only one guy that takes a girls virginity and typically they would be remembered. I think thats were the attraction to having sex with a virgin comes from, the fact that it only happens once in a girls life. Also some guys are attracted to the feeling of control they get from getting to teach someone, to take them into territory they have never been.

And yes there are a lot of ass holes that would get off at the idea of having sex with a virgin simply to be the one to 'cash in on her innocents'  without having any good intentions for her, and that sucks but its true; I've met a few, They are douchebag.

If virginity is a 'standard' for you in a search for a future life partner than I think It is totally cool for you to seek one out. Bur NOT if your just on the hunt for some innocent pussy to break in.

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no i think ultimately if your basing your memory and impression and building blocks of what you think of her off being her v-card taker then your in for trouble, as you wont grow and adapt to the person as they grow away from that once very innocent person. it could be troubling and hard to adapt to a sexually growing female espicially when the whole idea of being the v-card taker is having control of the females sexuality.

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57-71 said:
I think that all virgins (male or female at 18 yo) should be taken to a mature experienced lover - usually +40 yo, and spend a couple of days with them which would ultimately lead to a deflowering.

Handled properly, all the freshly unvirginated would be happy and enthusiastic about all manners of sex.

I also hereby offer to perform said services for a nominal fee to be paid in cash at delivery of said (female) virgin.

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Crystal G said:
Yea I agree with you on the age and naievity thing. When I was younger, I admired and wanted to date virgin guys. Now that I'm in my mid 20s, I feel that it is slightly creepy for me to pursue or desire virgins.

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