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The ultimate witness video for the UFO/ETI subject
    #16599363 - 07/27/12 02:02 PM (9 months, 18 days ago)

As some of you may know Dr. Steven Greer was responsible for gathering "hundreds" of corporate and government witnesses who had knowledge in regards to the UFO/ETI subject, a good amount of them agreed to have their testimony filmed. Now I haven't seen this before last night, though I've been aware of it for some time, I guess you could say I didn't have a calling for the information in these DVD's up until now.

What I'm about to link you to is Steven Greer's 4 hour witness DVD which is utterly profound and MIND BLOWING, especially the 2nd part, which will leave you with feelings of shock and disbelief when you hear about how the coverup and suppression has been going on for over 5 decades and how the people that control this issue are virtually lawless and above the authority of the highest office of any government, this is the "shadow government" you've heard about. Some of the witnesses have had first hand experience in UFO crash recoveries which included alien bodies which in some cases were still alive.

These interviews include people from,

FAA
Lockheed-Martin
NSA
An official from the U.K.'s Ministry of Defense
Airforce Air traffic control
NASA
Radar specialist
Atomic Energy Commission
Navy
Airforce
Army
Defense contractors
and more...

PART 1
PART 2

This stuff is so important, we got to get this out to people.


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Re: The ultimate witness video for the UFO/ETI subject [Re: LastBreath]
    #16599378 - 07/27/12 02:04 PM (9 months, 18 days ago)

Greer (let's wave aliens down with a flashlight) is a total joke. I find it hard to believe any intelligent person would take him seriously.


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Re: The ultimate witness video for the UFO/ETI subject [Re: OrgoneConclusion] * 1
    #16599392 - 07/27/12 02:07 PM (9 months, 18 days ago)

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Greer (let's wave aliens down with a flashlight) is a total joke. I find it hard to believe any intelligent person would take him seriously.




This isn't about Steven Greer so maybe you could take the witnesses seriously. These people aren't your average nobodies.


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Re: The ultimate witness video for the UFO/ETI subject [Re: LastBreath]
    #16599430 - 07/27/12 02:13 PM (9 months, 18 days ago)

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Greer (let's wave aliens down with a flashlight) is a total joke. I find it hard to believe any intelligent person would take him seriously.




This isn't about Steven Greer so maybe you could take the witnesses seriously. These people aren't your average nobodies.




Greer's DVD is not about Greer? :whatever:

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What I'm about to link you to is Steven Greer's 4 hour witness DVD which is utterly profound and MIND BLOWING, especially the 2nd part, which will leave you with feelings of shock and disbelief




I am in shock and disbelief that some adults believe nonsensical fairy tales.


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Re: The ultimate witness video for the UFO/ETI subject [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #16599454 - 07/27/12 02:16 PM (9 months, 18 days ago)

No the DVD is not about Steven Greer, it is about the witnesses who have come forward to get this information out to the public. You are sure bold about your position on this seeing that you haven't even seen the DVD, I don't understand your reasoning. You sound like someone who's been so conditioned by years of propaganda and disinformation that you can't even consider new information and think for yourself, though, afterall you are the same guy that I saw in another thread that believes "all sightings turn out to be Venus", which is ridiculous.


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Re: The ultimate witness video for the UFO/ETI subject [Re: LastBreath]
    #16599494 - 07/27/12 02:23 PM (9 months, 18 days ago)

Please link one solid piece of evidence linking a light in the sky to another star system.


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Re: The ultimate witness video for the UFO/ETI subject [Re: LastBreath]
    #16599507 - 07/27/12 02:26 PM (9 months, 18 days ago)

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you are the same guy that I saw in another thread that believes "all sightings turn out to be Venus", which is absurd




Nice misquote - and not my conclusion. (Note the double dishonesty, folks? This is standard among believers.) MUFON will tell you that Venus is the number one object misidentified as a UFO.

Try to actually know your subject matter.


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Re: The ultimate witness video for the UFO/ETI subject [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #16599511 - 07/27/12 02:27 PM (9 months, 18 days ago)

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These interviews include people from,

FAA
Lockheed-Martin
NSA
An official from the U.K.'s Ministry of Defense
Airforce Air traffic control
NASA
Radar specialist
Atomic Energy Commission
Navy
Airforce
Army
Defense contractors
and more...




And I should believe them because they work in government military positions?  Those are the last people I would believe.


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Re: The ultimate witness video for the UFO/ETI subject [Re: OrgoneConclusion] * 1
    #16599562 - 07/27/12 02:34 PM (9 months, 18 days ago)

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Please link one solid piece of evidence linking a light in the sky to another star system.




You don't understand that this information has been viciously suppressed for decades AND that even if evidence DID leak out, say someone got a genuine picture of an alien body or debris from a craft, you wouldn't believe any evidence anyway because you know damn well you've been so conditioned on this issue that you can't come to any conclusion other than that it must be a fraud. You're the type that won't believe anything unless you've heard it from an official source from someone in the Government or on the nightly news, and I don't think that's going to happen. Though there are people out there like Steven Greer and others who are trying hard to get this information out to the public and break this issue wide open by calling for congressional investigations and so forth, the objective is the same for all of these people and that is the secrecy must be ended and that this issue must finally be acknowledged and used in a peaceful way to better our civilization, this is not about Steven Greer, why don't you understand that?


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Re: The ultimate witness video for the UFO/ETI subject [Re: LastBreath]
    #16599568 - 07/27/12 02:36 PM (9 months, 18 days ago)

Wow my thread got so derailed by trolls and provocatuers, thanks a million.


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Re: The ultimate witness video for the UFO/ETI subject [Re: DieCommie]
    #16599585 - 07/27/12 02:38 PM (9 months, 18 days ago)

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These interviews include people from,

FAA
Lockheed-Martin
NSA
An official from the U.K.'s Ministry of Defense
Airforce Air traffic control
NASA
Radar specialist
Atomic Energy Commission
Navy
Airforce
Army
Defense contractors
and more...




And I should believe them because they work in government military positions?  Those are the last people I would believe.




The overwhelming majority of them are ex employees. I don't think any of you have even given the video a chance and I think its ridiculous that you can come out against it so hard just because you have a pre-conditioned idea on the topic. "All oranges must be bad because I saw one at the grocery store that had mold on it, my house is painted white therefore all houses must be painted white and I'll just ignore anything that suggests otherwise." That's the kind of blanket reasoning you guys engage in and it really sucks.


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Re: The ultimate witness video for the UFO/ETI subject [Re: LastBreath]
    #16599604 - 07/27/12 02:42 PM (9 months, 18 days ago)

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Wow my thread got so derailed by trolls and provocatuers, thanks a million.





Is that what you call anyone who disagrees with your conclusions?


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Re: The ultimate witness video for the UFO/ETI subject [Re: LastBreath]
    #16599606 - 07/27/12 02:43 PM (9 months, 18 days ago)

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Please link one solid piece of evidence linking a light in the sky to another star system.




You don't understand that this information has been viciously suppressed for decades AND that even if evidence DID leak out, say someone got a genuine picture of an alien body or debris from a craft, you wouldn't believe any evidence anyway because you know damn well you've been so conditioned on this issue that you can't come to any conclusion other than that it must be a fraud. You're the type that won't believe anything unless you've heard it from an official source from someone in the Government or on the nightly news, and I don't think that's going to happen. Though there are people out there like Steven Greer and others who are trying hard to get this information out to the public and break this issue wide open by calling for congressional investigations and so forth, the objective is the same for all of these people and that is the secrecy must be ended and that this issue must finally be acknowledged and used in a peaceful way to better our civilization, this is not about Steven Greer, why don't you understand that?




Your projectiion about what someone you never met might or might not believe is not relevant. This is called hand-waving and adds nothing to the discussion.

So no evidence then that a light in the sky is of alien origin? That's about what I thought.

Thanks for playing! :wink:


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Re: The ultimate witness video for the UFO/ETI subject [Re: Icelander]
    #16599629 - 07/27/12 02:46 PM (9 months, 18 days ago)

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Wow my thread got so derailed by trolls and provocatuers, thanks a million.





Is that what you call anyone who disagrees with your conclusions?





Not a one of you have even seen the videos. How could you disagree with anything I've said about it? None of you have even made a fair assessment of the videos in question.


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Re: The ultimate witness video for the UFO/ETI subject [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #16599640 - 07/27/12 02:48 PM (9 months, 18 days ago)

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LastBreath said:
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OrgoneConclusion said:
Please link one solid piece of evidence linking a light in the sky to another star system.




You don't understand that this information has been viciously suppressed for decades AND that even if evidence DID leak out, say someone got a genuine picture of an alien body or debris from a craft, you wouldn't believe any evidence anyway because you know damn well you've been so conditioned on this issue that you can't come to any conclusion other than that it must be a fraud. You're the type that won't believe anything unless you've heard it from an official source from someone in the Government or on the nightly news, and I don't think that's going to happen. Though there are people out there like Steven Greer and others who are trying hard to get this information out to the public and break this issue wide open by calling for congressional investigations and so forth, the objective is the same for all of these people and that is the secrecy must be ended and that this issue must finally be acknowledged and used in a peaceful way to better our civilization, this is not about Steven Greer, why don't you understand that?




Your projectiion about what someone you never met might or might not believe is not relevant. This is called hand-waving and adds nothing to the discussion.

So no evidence then that a light in the sky is of alien origin? That's about what I thought.

Thanks for playing! :wink:




Your a troll and a provocateur and you haven't even seen the videos that this thread is about, talk about close mindedness and trolling someone elses thread because you have a preconditioned idea on the topic.


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Re: The ultimate witness video for the UFO/ETI subject [Re: LastBreath]
    #16599641 - 07/27/12 02:48 PM (9 months, 18 days ago)

We are not replying to the videos, we are replying to your words.


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Re: The ultimate witness video for the UFO/ETI subject [Re: DieCommie]
    #16609099 - 07/29/12 05:14 AM (9 months, 17 days ago)

Many countries of the world already disclosed bunch of the UFO flies. These are available to public. Mr.Greer is just another man who speaks about and do research on this subject.

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OrgoneConclusion said: Your projectiion about what someone you never met might or might not believe is not relevant. This is called hand-waving and adds nothing to the discussion.

So no evidence then that a light in the sky is of alien origin? That's about what I thought.

Thanks for playing! :wink:



If you expect that the evidence be delivered to your doorstep, you have some wild expectations. This forum is called C&C for a reason, and I didn't saw that rule, where evidence is required to be presented to hijacking trolls. Your 'hand-waving' here is also obvious.

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DieCommie said: And I should believe them because they work in government military positions?  Those are the last people I would believe.
We are not replying to the videos, we are replying to your words.




I suppose you believe in your self. And so, its your choice not to trust these people. Did anyone poke you and mock you about what you choose to believe in? Did anyone ask you to provide evidence to prove what you believe?
Im just replying to your words :tongue:


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Re: The ultimate witness video for the UFO/ETI subject [Re: ivander]
    #16611321 - 07/29/12 05:32 PM (9 months, 16 days ago)

I have no expectation of intelligent discussion with any UFO nut. Not a single one has ever explained how they conclusion-jump from an unknown light in the sky to an extra-terrestrial craft. The answer is simple: there is no reason beyond fantasy projection.

Many documents are pointed to, but we hear/read nothing from any observatory about such objects entering the atmosphere from deep space.

If a troll is someone able apply logic, then I am guilty.

The End.


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Re: The ultimate witness video for the UFO/ETI subject [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #16611474 - 07/29/12 06:00 PM (9 months, 16 days ago)

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I have no expectation of intelligent discussion with any UFO nut. Not a single one has ever explained how they conclusion-jump from an unknown light in the sky to an extra-terrestrial craft. The answer is simple: there is no reason beyond fantasy projection.

Many documents are pointed to, but we hear/read nothing from any observatory about such objects entering the atmosphere from deep space.

If a troll is someone able apply logic, then I am guilty.

The End.




When there are sightings of these objects in the sky pulling off maneuvers and flying at speeds that no known technology on earth can achieve, what other conclusion can you come to? This matter is the highest classified secret in the U.S. government, I'm trying to tell you there is a massive cover-up that has been going on for at least 60 years. When you look at the amount of ridicule that has surrounded this topic, how can you expect an observatory to come forwards with what they might know about this? In fact there have been MANY professional and credible people come forward, like in the links I've posted which you probably didn't even watch.

And besides that, people lose there jobs for reporting this kind of stuff because of people like you who maintain this atmosphere of ridicule and hardcore skepticism that almost nothing can put to rest. No amount of evidence would convince you anyway, the only thing that might convince you is if the President himself went on TV and said it's true, and then you would realize what a dupe you've been this whole time and maybe start asking questions about other things that go on in this world, god forbid.


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Re: The ultimate witness video for the UFO/ETI subject [Re: LastBreath]
    #16611499 - 07/29/12 06:04 PM (9 months, 16 days ago)

Any other members care to guess as to which one of us had a Top Secret clearance?

Hint: I worked in CCC on a nuclear ship manning the radar and fire control systems.


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