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 TheApeKing
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 Are these panaeolus cinctilus? (first time hunting) 
#16593441 - 07/26/12 05:25 PM (9 months, 20 days ago) |
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Okay, well I went for a quick walk in my field to see if I could spot any. I had trouple identifying them. I knew the stem went from white to dark. Maybe even has some blue at the end, and the caps had those rings, I forget what they're called. I just looked up some pictures and some of these resemble them extremely! But I am taking a spore print right now. Please let me know if you think these are panaeolus cinctulus (subbs). Thanks in advance1
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 maynardjameskeenan
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 Re: Are these panaeolus cinctilus? (first time hunting) [Re: TheApeKing]
#16593456 - 07/26/12 05:27 PM (9 months, 20 days ago) |
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A spore print is need to differentiate between panaeolina foenisecii, does your field have livestock?
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Re: Are these panaeolus cinctilus? (first time hunting) [Re: TheApeKing]
#16593458 - 07/26/12 05:27 PM (9 months, 20 days ago) |
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Panaeolina
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Re: Are these panaeolus cinctilus? (first time hunting) [Re: TheApeKing]
#16593464 - 07/26/12 05:28 PM (9 months, 20 days ago) |
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If the spore print is jet black,I would say yes sir If not,they are Panaeolina.After really looking though,I'm betting Panaeolina.
Edited by Funki Porcini (07/26/12 05:29 PM)
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TheApeKing
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Re: Are these panaeolus cinctilus? (first time hunting) [Re: Funki Porcini]
#16593479 - 07/26/12 05:31 PM (9 months, 20 days ago) |
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No livestock and I live in Alberta, Canada if that helps! Are they edible and not deadly for sure?
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Re: Are these panaeolus cinctilus? (first time hunting) [Re: Funki Porcini]
#16593488 - 07/26/12 05:32 PM (9 months, 20 days ago) |
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The gills just look too brown to be a Panaeolus species. I agree with Panaeolina. Inactive despite any conflicting information you might dig up on the internet. They are edible, but do not taste good.
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Re: Are these panaeolus cinctilus? (first time hunting) [Re: suchen]
#16593523 - 07/26/12 05:38 PM (9 months, 20 days ago) |
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Do they have psilocybin/psilocin in them? Are they just a regular mushroom or are they in fact shrooms?
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TheApeKing
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Re: Are these panaeolus cinctilus? (first time hunting) [Re: suchen]
#16593555 - 07/26/12 05:43 PM (9 months, 20 days ago) |
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What'd the difference between them when I'm searching then?
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Re: Are these panaeolus cinctilus? (first time hunting) [Re: suchen]
#16593626 - 07/26/12 05:51 PM (9 months, 20 days ago) |
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Inactive despite any conflicting information you might dig up on the internet.
Panaeolus is a genus with black spores and a few "magic" species. Panaeolina have brown spores and are not "magic". Other differences are like I mentioned the gill color which is loosely related to spore print color (an important identifying feature).
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Re: Are these panaeolus cinctilus? (first time hunting) [Re: TheApeKing]
#16593662 - 07/26/12 05:54 PM (9 months, 20 days ago) |
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TheApeKing said:
What'd the difference between them when I'm searching then?
Cinctulus have black gills and a thick stem that has a fairly reddish color. foenisecii look like the mushrooms that you found, brown/cream stem and brownish gills. The spore print is also a brown color on foenisecii while cinctulus have a black spore print.
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TheApeKing
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Alright thanks guys. Do they grow in the same kind of area's? Like could I find some cinctulus in my field where there are lot's of panaolina?
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Re: Are these panaeolus cinctilus? (first time hunting) [Re: TheApeKing]
#16593901 - 07/26/12 06:27 PM (9 months, 19 days ago) |
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Quote:
TheApeKing said:
Alright thanks guys. Do they grow in the same kind of area's? Like could I find some cinctulus in my field where there are lot's of panaolina?
check out horse fields.
look directly on the dung.
also, check out newly laid lawns and/or freshly sodded areas a day or 2 after the rain.
housing developments with sprinklers are a good bet as well.
good luck.
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Re: Are these panaeolus cinctilus? (first time hunting) [Re: bloodworm]
#16593986 - 07/26/12 06:44 PM (9 months, 19 days ago) |
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Found these in horse field/poo.
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Re: Are these panaeolus cinctilus? (first time hunting) [Re: Lepkaun] 1
#16594379 - 07/26/12 07:42 PM (9 months, 19 days ago) |
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Gravija suggests well-watered soccer fields
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Re: Are these panaeolus cinctilus? (first time hunting) [Re: suchen]
#16594467 - 07/26/12 07:54 PM (9 months, 19 days ago) |
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They grow all over the rich neighborhoods here,their lawns are pristine,sprinkled and fertilized!
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maynardjameskeenan
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Re: Are these panaeolus cinctilus? (first time hunting) [Re: Funki Porcini]
#16594595 - 07/26/12 08:13 PM (9 months, 19 days ago) |
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Funki Porcini said:
They grow all over the rich neighborhoods here,their lawns are pristine,sprinkled and fertilized!
Fucking rich people, they have it all... besides happiness. 
“Trying to be happy by accumulating possessions is like trying to satisfy hunger by taping sandwiches all over your body.”
― George Carlin
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Quote:
maynardjameskeenan said:
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Funki Porcini said:
They grow all over the rich neighborhoods here,their lawns are pristine,sprinkled and fertilized!
Fucking rich people, they have it all... besides happiness.
“Trying to be happy by accumulating possessions is like trying to satisfy hunger by taping sandwiches all over your body.”
― George Carlin
peace and love
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Re: Are these panaeolus cinctilus? (first time hunting) [Re: bloodworm]
#16594656 - 07/26/12 08:22 PM (9 months, 19 days ago) |
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what a great quote!
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maynardjameskeenan said:
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Funki Porcini said:
They grow all over the rich neighborhoods here,their lawns are pristine,sprinkled and fertilized!
Fucking rich people, they have it all... besides happiness.
“Trying to be happy by accumulating possessions is like trying to satisfy hunger by taping sandwiches all over your body.”
― George Carlin
Sounds like my Ex GF...
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