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 tribesman
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 Re: Cause of suffering..  [Re: zZZz]
#16579295 - 07/24/12 01:15 PM (10 months, 20 days ago) |
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zZZz said:
Is because of our irresponsibility and our irresponsibility for our youth.
We fear not having that which we desire, and we desire to face and destroy our fears. Move beyond both pillars, they are the outer markers of the self, not it's limits.
What is there that doesn't cause us suffering ?, either by it's prominence in our lives or by it's sudden withdrawal, by it's absence, or it's impending appearance.
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Kickle
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Re: Cause of suffering.. [Re: tribesman]
#16579313 - 07/24/12 01:20 PM (10 months, 20 days ago) |
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Cactilove
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Re: Cause of suffering.. [Re: Icelander]
#16579364 - 07/24/12 01:35 PM (10 months, 20 days ago) |
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Nah man you show no love, it's all bitch sorry man that's just my opinion.
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Cactilove
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Re: Cause of suffering.. [Re: Icelander]
#16579383 - 07/24/12 01:40 PM (10 months, 20 days ago) |
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And what pet religion?
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Re: Cause of suffering.. [Re: Cactilove]
#16579634 - 07/24/12 02:39 PM (10 months, 20 days ago) |
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Cactilove said:
Nah man you show no love, it's all bitch sorry man that's just my opinion.
Yup just your ignorant uneducated opinion. 
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Vore
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Re: Cause of suffering.. [Re: Icelander]
#16579794 - 07/24/12 03:11 PM (10 months, 20 days ago) |
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He's tailing you like a dog now... Jesus..
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Re: Cause of suffering.. [Re: Icelander]
#16580061 - 07/24/12 04:06 PM (10 months, 20 days ago) |
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Icelander said:
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zZZz said:
There is no thought without mind, there is no mind without the body, there is no body without the heart, and there is no heart without love. Maybe our pain lies deeper than we imagine.
Can you explain how what you said isn't a load of crap?
yea, it didn't come from you.
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Re: Cause of suffering.. [Re: zZZz]
#16580225 - 07/24/12 04:39 PM (10 months, 20 days ago) |
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So in other words you can't. 
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Re: Cause of suffering.. [Re: Icelander] 1
#16580308 - 07/24/12 04:51 PM (10 months, 20 days ago) |
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there is no explaining, it's all love maaannn...
all we are missing is love, all we need is love...
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Icelander
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Re: Cause of suffering.. [Re: zZZz]
#16580343 - 07/24/12 04:57 PM (10 months, 20 days ago) |
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non-sense
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"People convince themselves of their own lies, becoming victims of their own inventions as they begin to direct their lives by standards of behavior, ideas, feelings, or instincts which do not correspond to their inner reality. What is truly serious in this matter is that the individual loses all points of reference regarding what comprises truth, and what comprises lies. He becomes used to considering as true only that which is convenient for his personal interests; everything that is in opposition to his self-esteem or in conflict with already established prejudices, he considers false."
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White Beard
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Re: Cause of suffering.. [Re: zZZz]
#16580913 - 07/24/12 06:39 PM (10 months, 20 days ago) |
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zZZz said:
Is because of our irresponsibility and our irresponsibility for our youth.
I'd say the reason is ignorance.
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practically the same thing. 
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resonant111
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cause of suffering = worrying about stupid, pointless shit
at least that's been the predominant factor in my own life.
when i just let go and stop worrying about bullshit my life becomes so much better. it's almost like you NEED a healthy degree of apathy to be sane in this world.
eminem: just don't give a fuck
Edited by resonant111 (07/24/12 06:45 PM)
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Re: Cause of suffering.. [Re: zZZz]
#16580951 - 07/24/12 06:44 PM (10 months, 20 days ago) |
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zZZz said:
practically the same thing.
Irresponsibility (actions that perpetuate suffering) are a side product of ignorance IMO, so I partially agree with you.
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Vore
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Re: Cause of suffering.. [Re: zZZz]
#16581047 - 07/24/12 06:58 PM (10 months, 20 days ago) |
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I believe we have limited choice when to express thoughts, but its not our choice which thoughts and behavior patterns survive. Even if you cultivate good intentions, the world will still be bad and there's nothing that can stop that. It's nature of mind, not necessarily nature of physical forms.
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hoodbran
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Re: Cause of suffering.. [Re: zZZz]
#16581068 - 07/24/12 07:03 PM (10 months, 20 days ago) |
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nonono it's due to youth in asia
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Cactilove
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Re: Cause of suffering.. [Re: Icelander]
#16583607 - 07/25/12 01:32 AM (10 months, 19 days ago) |
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Oh ya, because you do have an education? With 20 posts a day about pointless useless shit, there is no way you ever found time to get past jr. high. Go get some more cheese fingers you jabba twat.
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redgreenvines
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Re: Cause of suffering.. [Re: Kickle]
#16584374 - 07/25/12 06:07 AM (10 months, 19 days ago) |
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Kickle said:
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redgreenvines said:
It is terrible and stupid behavior - 'taking and not giving back' - an error in our approach that will probably bring pain and loss, but it wont necessarily bring what we experience as 'suffering', and avoiding error wont remove suffering either.
Not to mention avoiding error is an impossibility
Avoiding error is just a difficult process, recognizing error and taking steps to diminish it. You cannot eliminate error (accidents, unpredictable things etc.)- but you can avoid and diminish it.
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Vore
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Re: Cause of suffering.. [Re: Vore]
#16584456 - 07/25/12 07:30 AM (10 months, 19 days ago) |
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^^^ the first post to remember the answer.
Suffering has no cause, it is grace, a process, the best thing that ever happens to us. War, sickness, old age, crown of thorns and sweating blood, wear your suffering with pride or curled in fetal position. Long have I been in fetal position, may the pride awaken.
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in every winter I feel so old
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