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 What's going on in Syria? 
#16548963 - 07/18/12 12:44 PM (9 months, 29 days ago) |
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http://edition.cnn.com/video/#/video/world/2012/07/17/damon-syria-douma-massacre.cnn?eref=mrss_igoogle_cnn
What is this? What is the U.N. saying? Why does this fanatical execution crap continue to go on in this part of the world? Where is the U.S. war on terror to go in and stop terror? Is that war over? Who feels that a person that kills a little girl isn't brave but a completely coward? Who feels execution style murderers like this were probably raped by their parents when they were young, turning them into sick adults?
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Re: What's going on in Syria? [Re: imachavel]
#16549767 - 07/18/12 04:08 PM (9 months, 29 days ago) |
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Forein powers are funding, arming and supporting terrorist mercenary groups who are attempting a coup.
some may remember when i called this a year before it started.
i alsi called lybia at least 6 months beforehand.
they are not populist uprisings, they are black ops being inflicted upin nations that have central banks and monetart systems not controlled by the globalist bankers.
look out for action in central africa in the future, im making another call right here.
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Re: What's going on in Syria? [Re: Shins]
#16550245 - 07/18/12 05:51 PM (9 months, 28 days ago) |
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Quote:
Shins said:
Forein powers are funding, arming and supporting terrorist mercenary groups who are attempting a coup.
some may remember when i called this a year before it started.
i alsi called lybia at least 6 months beforehand.
they are not populist uprisings, they are black ops being inflicted upin nations that have central banks and monetart systems not controlled by the globalist bankers.
look out for action in central africa in the future, im making another call right here.
Link?
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Re: What's going on in Syria? [Re: zappaisgod]
#16550411 - 07/18/12 06:20 PM (9 months, 28 days ago) |
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Take your diaper off and look yourself.
read something other than the new york times.
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Re: What's going on in Syria? [Re: Shins]
#16550814 - 07/18/12 07:44 PM (9 months, 28 days ago) |
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I read lots of things. You made an alleged statement of fact. So, I ask you to open your asshole and show us from whence that fact came. Not unreasonable since you personally have about as much credibility om matters Middle Eastern as Bernie Madoff has on matters financial.
Interesting report.
http://news.yahoo.com/bomb-kills-syrian-defense-minister-damascus-battle-rages-104736393.html
We all know how much the globalist bankers (i.e. JOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOS0) have been involved in suicide bombings
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Re: What's going on in Syria? [Re: Shins]
#16556968 - 07/19/12 11:34 PM (9 months, 27 days ago) |
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Quote:
Shins said:
Take your diaper off and look yourself.
read something other than the new york times.
ouch
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Re: What's going on in Syria? [Re: imachavel]
#16557235 - 07/20/12 12:29 AM (9 months, 27 days ago) |
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Yeah that was immature...
im embarassed about that XD
politics frustrate the hell out of me, and most peoples responses make me flip my shit.
my bad...
i feel like i saw a train on its way to hit a bus from miles away and when i ran to warn everyone they just mocked me and called me names.
well now the bus hit and innocent people are dying and STILL people mock me.
its an uphill battle and its exhausting just to make people open their eyes and use their brain.
and then there are those who know but dont care or support it, and those who purposely lie to the public.
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Re: What's going on in Syria? [Re: Shins]
#16557778 - 07/20/12 02:18 AM (9 months, 27 days ago) |
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Quote:
Shins said:
Forein powers are funding, arming and supporting terrorist mercenary groups who are attempting a coup.
some may remember when i called this a year before it started.
i alsi called lybia at least 6 months beforehand.
they are not populist uprisings, they are black ops being inflicted upin nations that have central banks and monetart systems not controlled by the globalist bankers.
look out for action in central africa in the future, im making another call right here.
Yea, everything revolves around us. Nothing happens in the world without the US or your conspiracy playing a part, nothing at all. There is not a thing in this world that doesn't have to do with us, because that's just how important you and this country are to everything that happens.
The people of another country certainly just couldn't be sick of living under a dictator, no...they can only take directions from us. Its madness to expect a people to try to fight their oppressive government, especially when a number of other counties have just recently done the same. Yes, all of those other countries must have been secretly provoked into it by the US, because nothing at all can happen in this world if we don't have a direct part in it. We revolve around everything, doesn't it make you feel special to know that you are part of every major news story in the entire world.
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Re: What's going on in Syria? [Re: Chespirito]
#16558310 - 07/20/12 05:10 AM (9 months, 27 days ago) |
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I never said the US specifically.
for example arms have been caught being shipped from libya and gulf states such as qatar and saudi arabia who are sending money and weapons with the US aiding in logistics.
there may have been legitimate oppisition groups in the beginning, but they were not a majority.
now they are being funded, armed, and supported with foreign mercinaries.
its not as simple as just a bunch of populist rebels fighting for democracy.
thats the simplistic story they feed the cheeto finger stained T.V. watching zombies.
there is a coordinated destabilisation campaign underway.
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Re: What's going on in Syria? [Re: imachavel]
#16558343 - 07/20/12 05:27 AM (9 months, 27 days ago) |
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Al queda is also fighting on the side of the rebels.
we are fighting them in Iraq and supporting them in Syria.
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Re: What's going on in Syria? [Re: Shins]
#16560467 - 07/20/12 04:28 PM (9 months, 27 days ago) |
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The people of another country certainly just couldn't be sick of living under a dictator, no...they can only take directions from us. Its madness to expect a people to try to fight their oppressive government, especially when a number of other counties have just recently done the same. Yes, all of those other countries must have been secretly provoked into it by the US, because nothing at all can happen in this world if we don't have a direct part in it. We revolve around everything, doesn't it make you feel special to know that you are part of every major news story in the entire world.
Although we did not initiate the conflict, I'm sure we will soon be held financially responsible for foreign aid and assistance.
BTW Zappa, in the arab world they are known as YEEEEWWWWSS. Combine the words use and yews, these are the people responsible for everything, even your own self destructive behavior. I'm sure they have a hand in the Syrian conflict as we speak, you know flying the russian mi 25 attack helicopters shooting missiles at innocent insurgent civilians.
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Re: What's going on in Syria? [Re: imachavel]
#16562276 - 07/21/12 12:24 AM (9 months, 26 days ago) |
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Follow this Facebook Page: Syrian Revolution 2011
It'll keep you up to date. You can use Google translate to translate it.
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Re: What's going on in Syria? [Re: Darwin23]
#16562568 - 07/21/12 01:39 AM (9 months, 26 days ago) |
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Syria is following a similar path on which the Bosnian wars followed. There is going to be a lot of death in the middle east and it will reach into eastern europe. Let's just hope nothing in bosnia/croatia/serbia don't become destabilized through the vast migration of immigrants. Destabilization could also ruin peace talks going on between georgia and russia as well...
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Re: What's going on in Syria? [Re: Maverick]
#16562679 - 07/21/12 02:07 AM (9 months, 26 days ago) |
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It's all about Iran. Of course there is outside funding occurring.
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Re: What's going on in Syria? [Re: 4-AcO-MET]
#16562825 - 07/21/12 02:56 AM (9 months, 26 days ago) |
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I think Russia also has a major naval base in syria.
US getting more involved in syria is dangerous.
The best idea would be to let the Syrians sort it out amoung themself, its not worth pissing off china, russia, iran etc.
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Re: What's going on in Syria? [Re: Shins]
#16564400 - 07/21/12 03:04 PM (9 months, 26 days ago) |
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It is always worthwhile to piss off Iran. Russia and China are feckless cowards. Also extremely scummy.
That does not mean I think we should get involved in Syria.
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Re: What's going on in Syria? [Re: zappaisgod]
#16565161 - 07/21/12 09:43 PM (9 months, 25 days ago) |
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Man the issues between all these countries, including China, it's amazing how much of an enemy China became during the cold war considering how much we helped them in weapons and oil supply during the second world war, but, stark contrast to what's going on right now. The past doesn't much matter atm.
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Re: What's going on in Syria? [Re: Maverick]
#16565532 - 07/21/12 10:59 PM (9 months, 25 days ago) |
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if it wasn't for us in ww2, China would be Japan's butt bitch right now. And considering what Japanese did to those captured, I should say it's no huge surprise that I mean.... LITERALLY
I don't even think there would be a 'China' any more, at least not in the conventional sense of, calling a country 'China', if it's territory and economy is completely controlled by Japan. Fuck, I wish most of the middle east would have lost in ww2, to some huge super power country. Most likely it would have been a lot cleaner and we never would have had this stupid fucking war. Even a shit country like Russia or England or the U.S. HAVE YOU EVER HEARD OF THAT COUNTRY...  wouldn't have let the middle east become as run down as it's become.
If any country needed to be invaded and occupied in a cold war fashion like Berlin or a post war fashion like Tokyo, it surely is the middle east. I mean, look at how successful Berlin and Tokyo are now.
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Re: What's going on in Syria? [Re: imachavel]
#16565807 - 07/22/12 12:01 AM (9 months, 25 days ago) |
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Eh, we committed some mass atrocities ourselves. War is a violent thing, the rape of Nanking was highly classified and withheld from Japan's own civilians. Propaganda was a huge fuel to the fire in WWII. The fact we firebombed and nuked civilian cities is a bit disturbing as well.
I don't agree with bombing and killing civilian targets, however war is war.
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Re: What's going on in Syria? [Re: Maverick]
#16565853 - 07/22/12 12:11 AM (9 months, 25 days ago) |
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Quote:
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Eh, we committed some mass atrocities ourselves. War is a violent thing, the rape of Nanking was highly classified and withheld from Japan's own civilians. Propaganda was a huge fuel to the fire in WWII. The fact we firebombed and nuked civilian cities is a bit disturbing as well.
I don't agree with bombing and killing civilian targets, however war is war.
Eh, many many more Japanese civilians would have been killed in the inevitable invasion that would have taken place absent the use of the atomic bomb.
I recommend Hell to Pay : Operation Downfall and the Invasion of Japan, which draws from both US and Japanese military records of how each would initiate and respond to an invasion. Japanese sources especially point to a complete mobilization of all civilians regardless of age, sex, or military ability to attempt to kill as many invaders as possible. It would have been a bloodbath of unprecedented proportions.
Aside from that, I think what's happening in Syria is pretty clear. A revolution is in progress, but the rebels lack the necessary force to take down an entrenched and heavily armed regime. I don't care how many impassioned revolutionaries you have, but small arms and car-bombs cannot topple an army with tanks and helicopters and jets and the willingness to use them against it's own people.
It just can't be done.
I'm not sure what the end-game would be. Aside from the Syrian military brass becoming disillusioned with Al-Assad, to whom they owe everything, I can see this dragging out interminably. I can also foresee possible intervention from Turkey or Israel to safeguard their own interests. Turkey has responded forcefully to border incursions by Syria already and Israel yesterday threatened unilateral action should Syria lose control of their chemical or biological arsenal, especially to Hezbollah.
It could get pretty ugly, but that's more or less par for the course for the middle east.
Unlike Egypt or Libya I think there is little stomach in NATO or the UN for intervention of any kind. France was the driving force behind the Libyan intervention and now with Hollande in charge you won't see any more of that. The US won't do anything they don't need to do in an election year, and the UN is, as usual, completely worthless in any kind of legitimate crisis.
Tens of thousands will die, Assad will eventually step down or be killed, but it will take awhile.
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