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 Advice on first "LARGE" dose 
#16541072 - 07/16/12 08:43 PM (10 months, 1 day ago) |
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I'm planning on a trip at the end of this month and have never went beyond 2.7g dried. I'm thinking of goind 3.5 and maybe even 4g at this time.
Anyone who has went to the ~5g threshold? What is it like?
Any advice on this as i am quite nervous haha, i don't know the basis of what to expect (i know i shouldnt expect anything, hence "basis")
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masspan said:
in your 2nd pic that mushroom is actively standing on its head for sure
nearhorn said:
what does that mean? its active?
Edited by nixon (07/16/12 09:43 PM)
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Re: Advice on first [Re: nixon]
#16541086 - 07/16/12 08:46 PM (10 months, 1 day ago) |
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its quite hard to say what its like. but dont be nervous they'll treat ya right
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Re: Advice on first [Re: lar20]
#16541473 - 07/16/12 10:16 PM (10 months, 1 day ago) |
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5 gm is it huge
But it's up there... Commonly go 4-5 gm
Great feeling, visuals, etc.
I do not think I would go from 2-3 gm and do 5 gm... Try 4 gm first
Set and setting.... Prepare... And relax... Have to just trust the mushroom
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Re: Advice on first [Re: HarryL]
#16541530 - 07/16/12 10:34 PM (10 months, 1 day ago) |
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HarryL said:
5 gm is it huge
But it's up there... Commonly go 4-5 gm
Great feeling, visuals, etc.
I do not think I would go from 2-3 gm and do 5 gm... Try 4 gm first
Set and setting.... Prepare... And relax... Have to just trust the mushroom
Yeah i was thinking 4g first but the last 2.7g trip i had was a little overwhelming, is that normal?
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masspan said:
in your 2nd pic that mushroom is actively standing on its head for sure
nearhorn said:
what does that mean? its active?
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Re: Advice on first [Re: nixon]
#16541607 - 07/16/12 10:47 PM (10 months, 1 day ago) |
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3.5-4g's would be the logical progression. then 5g's. just my opinion. but 3.5 is when it goes from nice body high and slight movements to TRIPPING. 5 is supposed to be some pretty heavy shit for most people.
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to me, i hate being in that level where im halfway gone but not totally gone, i think youll be fine on a 4 gram trip as long as you let go and dont fight it. once you are completely gone you will feel immense levels of peace
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Re: Advice on first [Re: sailing]
#16542549 - 07/17/12 01:13 AM (10 months, 1 day ago) |
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sailing said:
to me, i hate being in that level where im halfway gone but not totally gone, i think youll be fine on a 4 gram trip as long as you let go and dont fight it. once you are completely gone you will feel immense levels of peace
I'm excited now 
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masspan said:
in your 2nd pic that mushroom is actively standing on its head for sure
nearhorn said:
what does that mean? its active?
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Re: Advice on first [Re: nixon]
#16542573 - 07/17/12 01:19 AM (10 months, 1 day ago) |
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just make sure you're in a totally comfortable environment where you dont have to worry about outside factors. where you feel most comfortable being yourself
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Re: Advice on first [Re: sailing]
#16542920 - 07/17/12 02:34 AM (10 months, 23 hours ago) |
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I agree that being in the middle is a worse place to be than low or really tripping. I normally take about 2g and that's a comfortable low but 3 to 3.5g is just weird. It makes me tired and not too much tripping. My largest dose was just over 4g and there is definitely a peace that comes over you when your tripping that hard. The come up is important though, just be in a good place and you'll be ok. Next time I plan on taking 4g again, so good vibes to us both!
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Re: Advice on first [Re: Pandax]
#16542996 - 07/17/12 02:55 AM (10 months, 23 hours ago) |
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Appreciate the responses, the only thing i'm worried about is it getting too overwhelming and the trip takes a turn for the worst.
Is there a way to prevent this? I'm guessing i should just "ride it out" but i think thats WAY easier said then done, eh?
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masspan said:
in your 2nd pic that mushroom is actively standing on its head for sure
nearhorn said:
what does that mean? its active?
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Re: Advice on first [Re: nixon]
#16543085 - 07/17/12 03:18 AM (10 months, 23 hours ago) |
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Just have benzos on hand bro. But don't impulse abort it if it's uncomfortable.. Ride it out a bit. See if there is anything important to learn. The doors these type of doses open are overwhelming and massive sometimes. But like everyone else on this forum, I'm glad I achieved it and experienced it. I wouldn't trade the experience for anything And it has given me a huge step towards enlightenment. Good vibes man
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Re: Advice on first [Re: sailing]
#16543881 - 07/17/12 12:09 PM (10 months, 14 hours ago) |
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Usually just knowing that you have a xanex just in case is enough!
Personally I'd go with an 8th.. your walking OK..but lets run before you learn to fly
You'll be OK either way though! Have fun!
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I say go for the 5 gram mark , my first trip was 5 grams dry 
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Just because your first trip at 5grams worked for you, doesn't mean it will work for everyone. I wouldn't recomend someone take that high of a step if they are nervous and feel 2.7grams is intense. Just figured I'd throw that in there. Too many people in this world don't realize that everyone is different! Just because something worked out fine for you, doesn't mean it will work for everyone else.
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Re: Advice on first [Re: PeaceLove]
#16544086 - 07/17/12 01:04 PM (10 months, 13 hours ago) |
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Just my advice , I know most people wouldnt recommend over an 8th their first time , and I understand not everyone is the same when it comes to these things . So just do whatever you feel comfortable with and dont listen to what anyone has to say , because you are the only one who can judge your own mind
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Re: Advice on first "LARGE" dose [Re: nixon]
#16544200 - 07/17/12 01:37 PM (10 months, 12 hours ago) |
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Speaking as someone that does 5 grams nearly every weekend, my advice would be to find a spotter. Don't trip alone if you're going to be tripping balls deep, unless this is common practice. It took me a few deep trips with a partner before I felt comfortable trying it alone. Mind you, on 5 grams, you can't operate a phone. You can't read or type. I have a written instruction piece that I have framed in my living room called "How to reverse THE CHANGE" and it lists activities that can reverse a bad trip. Bad part is, you can't really read when you're tripping that hard, but a spotter can read it to you. You may forget to take deep breaths or take your shoes off, or go to the bathroom and take a leak. There's so many things that can bring you back, but you sometime need someone to remind you what those things are.
I find that day tripping is a much more positive experience than night tripping. Everything is more colorful and vibrant in the daytime. And make damn sure you're in an environment where you have some control, such as your house or your campground. If you don't like what's on TV or the radio, you should have that ability to change it. Not very likely at a concert, for example. It's not like the band is going to take your freak-out into consideration and switch things up.
Then again, if I do 3.5, I feel like it's wasted because I'm not high enough. It's like it's just tickling my brain. Eh. To each his own.
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Re: Advice on first "LARGE" dose [Re: Bluemookie]
#16544531 - 07/17/12 02:56 PM (10 months, 11 hours ago) |
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I ate 7g once, had no fun. I was at the Haloween Hoe Down on the Canadian border in a log cabin with my boys. I was so incapacitated I couldn't leave the cabin to go see music. I also started to run a terrible fever and was sweating profusely. That was the last time I really ate mushrooms. I've had a few chocolates at shows but that was my last mind blowing mushroom trip. Wasn't really enjoyable. I find that no matter how much L I eat I can keep my head on straight and if I don't it winds up being part of the experience and I appreciate it later. Not so much with mushrooms. The few times I went overboard with mushrooms was miserable, and didn't gain much from the trip. I feel like instead of enhancing my brains functioning it winds up melting my brain into a puddle of goo, and then spinning said puddle around in a blender.
Increase your dose slowly.
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I feel like instead of enhancing my brains functioning it winds up melting my brain into a puddle of goo, and then spinning said puddle around in a blender.
mushrooms are just melty in general. I personally like being all melty. it feels good to be a puddle.
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I say just go for a 3.5g, maybe 4, I've never gone beyond an 1/8 trip so I can't say. If you never done an 1/8 dried it's def. the next logical step, no way in hell I'd go from 2.7g immediately to a 5g trip!! It's funny, I think it's easier for me to deal w/ large gaps in L dosage, going from 3 to 5 to 10 hits(which I've done), but I'd be more careful w/ mushrooms, imo it has a much more mental fuck w/ it and if you're not careful it can show things you aren't ready for.
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Re: Advice on first "LARGE" dose [Re: Kire1988]
#16545170 - 07/17/12 05:11 PM (10 months, 9 hours ago) |
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My first trip I took an eight (3.17-3.22g according to my scale) and I tripped balls. Loss of ego. Great experience. As far as dose goes, in my extremely humble opinion i'd say go for a solid eighth (3.5g dried) and see how that goes.
As others have said though... I think it's really super important to not be scared or nervous. More than that, don't take a heavy load if you aren't in a good place in life, eg repressed emotional feelings, break up, heart ache, stress at work, whatever. Me and my GF took the same dose of the same shit and she went to hell (literally), and I was fine. I firmly believe it wasn't because of "mental strength", instead I feel like it was where we were in our lives. You need to make sure you're in a good spot in your life. If you are, then you shouldn't be scared or worried about the dose. Let the medicine show you what it needs to show you.
My two cents, happy tripping! let us know how it goes.
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Re: Advice on first "LARGE" dose [Re: Atrayitti]
#16545231 - 07/17/12 05:24 PM (10 months, 9 hours ago) |
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a large dose for me would be 7+ grams. I have eaten a half o in a 2 hour timespan and that was 12hrs of mindfuck.
right now it would be an 1/8 minimum
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Re: Advice on first "LARGE" dose [Re: JohnnieYen]
#16545354 - 07/17/12 05:48 PM (10 months, 8 hours ago) |
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a large dose for me would be 7+ grams. I have eaten a half o in a 2 hour timespan and that was 12hrs of mindfuck.
right now it would be an 1/8 minimum
0.0 how was that half o?
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Re: Advice on first "LARGE" dose [Re: Atrayitti]
#16545435 - 07/17/12 06:05 PM (10 months, 8 hours ago) |
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a large dose for me would be 7+ grams. I have eaten a half o in a 2 hour timespan and that was 12hrs of mindfuck.
right now it would be an 1/8 minimum
0.0 how was that half o?
Only did it once. I was helping out a girl I was seeing at the time get settled for school out of town. We decided to trip seeing she had a week before school started. I ate 1/4 to start and after 45 min didn't really feel anything.
So i had another 1/8 and then ate the other 1/8 20 min later. I was feeling a little buzz but nothing like i should. Her on the other hand was tripping balls on an 1/8 and freaking out that i'm going to be so gone.
I went to get a beer because i thought I got ripped off with some weak ass shrooms.
I don't know if the alcohol became some sort of catalyst but I went from sober to tripping face in a matter of minutes.
I got the sensation of falling for hours and couldn't string together a coherent sentence.
Cold sweats and restlessness for at least 3 hours, then the breakthrough. I had control of dreams and was able to shut my eyes and contemplate the mysteries of the universe. it was very profound and deep. i found myself crying multiple times from sheer ecstasy.
The trips would come in waves and the warm sensations were very comforting
Only did that much once...
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Re: Advice on first "LARGE" dose [Re: JohnnieYen]
#16545465 - 07/17/12 06:13 PM (10 months, 8 hours ago) |
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a large dose for me would be 7+ grams. I have eaten a half o in a 2 hour timespan and that was 12hrs of mindfuck.
right now it would be an 1/8 minimum
0.0 how was that half o?
Only did it once. I was helping out a girl I was seeing at the time get settled for school out of town. We decided to trip seeing she had a week before school started. I ate 1/4 to start and after 45 min didn't really feel anything.
So i had another 1/8 and then ate the other 1/8 20 min later. I was feeling a little buzz but nothing like i should. Her on the other hand was tripping balls on an 1/8 and freaking out that i'm going to be so gone.
I went to get a beer because i thought I got ripped off with some weak ass shrooms.
I don't know if the alcohol became some sort of catalyst but I went from sober to tripping face in a matter of minutes.
I got the sensation of falling for hours and couldn't string together a coherent sentence.
Cold sweats and restlessness for at least 3 hours, then the breakthrough. I had control of dreams and was able to shut my eyes and contemplate the mysteries of the universe. it was very profound and deep. i found myself crying multiple times from sheer ecstasy.
The trips would come in waves and the warm sensations were very comforting
Only did that much once...
probly more to do with your metabolism being off that day? did you have alot to eat before hand?
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Re: Advice on first "LARGE" dose [Re: sailing]
#16545506 - 07/17/12 06:20 PM (10 months, 8 hours ago) |
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a large dose for me would be 7+ grams. I have eaten a half o in a 2 hour timespan and that was 12hrs of mindfuck.
right now it would be an 1/8 minimum
0.0 how was that half o?
Only did it once. I was helping out a girl I was seeing at the time get settled for school out of town. We decided to trip seeing she had a week before school started. I ate 1/4 to start and after 45 min didn't really feel anything.
So i had another 1/8 and then ate the other 1/8 20 min later. I was feeling a little buzz but nothing like i should. Her on the other hand was tripping balls on an 1/8 and freaking out that i'm going to be so gone.
I went to get a beer because i thought I got ripped off with some weak ass shrooms.
I don't know if the alcohol became some sort of catalyst but I went from sober to tripping face in a matter of minutes.
I got the sensation of falling for hours and couldn't string together a coherent sentence.
Cold sweats and restlessness for at least 3 hours, then the breakthrough. I had control of dreams and was able to shut my eyes and contemplate the mysteries of the universe. it was very profound and deep. i found myself crying multiple times from sheer ecstasy.
The trips would come in waves and the warm sensations were very comforting
Only did that much once...
probly more to do with your metabolism being off that day? did you have alot to eat before hand?
I'm not sure, I know I ate but I doubt it was that much. I really remember feeling warmer with each sip of beer. Kind of like an engine revving up. Then BAM 0-60 in 2 seconds!
i had tripped maybe 10-15 times by then with a 1/4 being normal dose.
I once golfed at 6am after eating an 1/8. Thought it would be zen golf, like playing tiger woods in real life. I could barely hit the ball
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Re: Advice on first "LARGE" dose [Re: JohnnieYen]
#16545643 - 07/17/12 06:38 PM (10 months, 7 hours ago) |
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you actually made me laugh out loud with the golfing comment... lol. rest of my office just gave me some interesting looks xD
I'd love to try that much one day O.o the next "big dose" for me will be 1/4th... but that'll prolly be a few months down the road. i'm actually about to start experimenting with lower doses... i kinda jumped in on a heavy trip and want to see what the lower levels of it are like 
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Re: Advice on first "LARGE" dose [Re: Atrayitti]
#16545777 - 07/17/12 07:01 PM (10 months, 7 hours ago) |
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I enjoy lower doses too, chilling with a movie or listening to music.
I'll do 2 gr or so in tea (only way I dose now)
It's enjoyable once you fight off the yawns
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Re: Advice on first "LARGE" dose [Re: JohnnieYen]
#16545791 - 07/17/12 07:04 PM (10 months, 7 hours ago) |
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In fear of highjacking the thread I'll ask...
Do u find the tea to be much better than just eating em? I find dried shrooms kinda yummy in a weird way.
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Re: Advice on first "LARGE" dose [Re: Atrayitti]
#16548469 - 07/18/12 10:36 AM (9 months, 30 days ago) |
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I prefer tea, only because at least 50% of the time after eating dried or fresh, I get some form of stomach discomfort. Sometimes I'll throw up. With tea (correction, I use kool-aid), I never get stomach discomfort. I'm looking forward to the next tub harvest so I can make tea from freshies for the first time. Gonna make a butt load and then freeze it.
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Re: Advice on first "LARGE" dose [Re: Bluemookie]
#16548598 - 07/18/12 11:21 AM (9 months, 30 days ago) |
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Your going to load your butt with shrooms tea then freeze it??? Haha just kidding! But imagine if some one did something like that? Well obviously you can't freeze liquid in your ass, but what it someone made circular shroom tea ice cubes then stuck them right up their poop shute? I'm gonna say, its probably been done. If not with shrooms, probably acid.
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Re: Advice on first "LARGE" dose [Re: PeaceLove]
#16548773 - 07/18/12 12:08 PM (9 months, 30 days ago) |
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but what it someone made circular shroom tea ice cubes then stuck them right up their poop shute?
they'd be trippin balls
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Re: Advice on first "LARGE" dose [Re: Atrayitti]
#16548796 - 07/18/12 12:12 PM (9 months, 30 days ago) |
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In fear of highjacking the thread I'll ask...
Do u find the tea to be much better than just eating em? I find dried shrooms kinda yummy in a weird way.
I don't like the taste of shrooms and don't like the gut rot. i find tea will eliminate both of those. I mix mine with rockstar energy drink or juice (cranberry usually)
I like that it comes on quicker (within 5 min) and doesn't leave you groggy the next day.
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Re: Advice on first "LARGE" dose [Re: JohnnieYen]
#16549021 - 07/18/12 12:54 PM (9 months, 30 days ago) |
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I take it this isn't an issue as nobody has said anything about it yet but doesn't it depend on what type of shroom you are eating? I only ever have libs as nothing else grows where I live so I can't really comment but surely different shrooms have different potency?
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Re: Advice on first "LARGE" dose [Re: JohnnieYen]
#16549023 - 07/18/12 12:55 PM (9 months, 30 days ago) |
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Interesting... I'll have to try it with the tea. Does it increase the potency? i've heard some people who swear it does and others who say it weakens it...
I'm sorry but I aint sticking nothing up the shoot o.O i would imagine that would be fairly cold lol.
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Re: Advice on first "LARGE" dose [Re: Atrayitti]
#16549120 - 07/18/12 01:11 PM (9 months, 30 days ago) |
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Honestly, I don't see how making tea from shrooms would ever increase potency. Decrease? Yeah, that's understandable. But increase? It's just...different.
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Re: Advice on first "LARGE" dose [Re: Bluemookie]
#16549215 - 07/18/12 01:33 PM (9 months, 30 days ago) |
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potency with multispore is a crapshoot anyway. I have never been disappointed with tea. Comes on faster and stronger, but doesn't last as long.
 all positives IMO
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Re: Advice on first "LARGE" dose [Re: JohnnieYen]
#16549756 - 07/18/12 04:05 PM (9 months, 30 days ago) |
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doesnt benadryl prevent the tummy aches? or am i thinking of something else?
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Re: Advice on first "LARGE" dose [Re: sailing]
#16549966 - 07/18/12 04:56 PM (9 months, 30 days ago) |
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Can't imagine how. I would lean toward alka seltzer or pepto bismal before an antihistamine. For me, it's just important to have an empty stomach.
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Re: Advice on first "LARGE" dose [Re: Bluemookie]
#16550377 - 07/18/12 06:13 PM (9 months, 30 days ago) |
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I like drying, grinding up and encapsulating my shrooms, easy to get down and never fails in terms of potency
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masspan said:
in your 2nd pic that mushroom is actively standing on its head for sure
nearhorn said:
what does that mean? its active?
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Re: Advice on first "LARGE" dose [Re: nixon]
#16551055 - 07/18/12 08:49 PM (9 months, 30 days ago) |
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ive taken many large doses, dooo it. go with 5 or 6. ive gone up to 10g cracker dry
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Re: Advice on first "LARGE" dose [Re: prettyMushy]
#16551750 - 07/18/12 11:11 PM (9 months, 30 days ago) |
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http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/16510780
This is the thread to my first 3.5+g dose..well 7g
enjoy it...it's a beautiful place. Read the thread if you want to know about my experience.
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Re: Advice on first "LARGE" dose [Re: kr0nik0]
#16553743 - 07/19/12 11:50 AM (9 months, 29 days ago) |
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If your considering the tea... or at least drinking ground up shroom juice, I would reccomend looking up N.R.G. tek! Shits awesome lol. I took 1.7grams this way and raged all night long! Lol
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