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IndigoSky
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#16526013 - 07/13/12 04:46 PM (10 months, 4 days ago)

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Nativenglish
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Re: T. peruvianus or T.santaensis? (cacti ID help)

[Re: IndigoSky]
#16526164 - 07/13/12 05:11 PM (10 months, 4 days ago)

I'm not even going to go there...

I am going to wait for GoOnThen (GOT) to go first.

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ferrel_human
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Re: T. peruvianus or T.santaensis? (cacti ID help)

[Re: Nativenglish]
#16526240 - 07/13/12 05:24 PM (10 months, 4 days ago)

there is a pilosocereus sp. in the mix. that fisrt one looks peruvianoid.
and a t. grandifloris i believe.

i saw the same lot at lowes and thought how cool of them to have baby peruvians in the mix. :grin:

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Re: T. peruvianus or T.santaensis? (cacti ID help)

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#16526327 - 07/13/12 05:42 PM (10 months, 4 days ago)

Which one is which? If the top left of the bottom picture is cactus 1, top right is cactus 2 and so on.

I bet they're selling these same ones all over the country.

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Re: T. peruvianus or T.santaensis? (cacti ID help)

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#16526342 - 07/13/12 05:44 PM (10 months, 4 days ago)

Top two are Pilocereus sp., possibly azureus.
Bottom left looks similar, wouldn't say T. grandiflorus due to the wooly areoles.

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Re: T. peruvianus or T.santaensis? (cacti ID help)

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#16526637 - 07/13/12 06:49 PM (10 months, 4 days ago)

Cant peruvian Torch also have this amount of needles?
Im no expert but it looks like a PT.

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modern.shaman
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Re: T. peruvianus or T.santaensis? (cacti ID help)

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#16526730 - 07/13/12 07:11 PM (10 months, 4 days ago)

Top Two
Pilocereus sp.

Bottom Left
Pilosocereus gounellei variation

Bottomr Right
Gonna throw this out there and say T.cuzcoensis possibly Peruvian/Cuzonoid.

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#16526833 - 07/13/12 07:31 PM (10 months, 4 days ago)

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modern.shaman
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Re: T. peruvianus or T.santaensis? (cacti ID help)

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#16526987 - 07/13/12 08:03 PM (10 months, 4 days ago)

Could be T.santaensis I'm not a pro to completely threw it out but from the few pics I've been seeing of a T.santaensis; they all have Red spines in new growth.

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ferrel_human
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Re: T. peruvianus or T.santaensis? (cacti ID help)

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#16527617 - 07/13/12 10:27 PM (10 months, 4 days ago)

i'm gonna say it.

the first pic looks like a peruvian torch baby i once had. well exactly like a torch.

grow it to full capacity and we will know.

:goodluck:

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Nativenglish
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Re: T. peruvianus or T.santaensis? (cacti ID help)

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#16527849 - 07/13/12 11:20 PM (10 months, 4 days ago)

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ferrel_human said:

...looks like a peruvian torch baby i once had.

Do you have any pics of that Ferrel?

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IndigoSky
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Re: T. peruvianus or T.santaensis? (cacti ID help)

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#16528214 - 07/14/12 12:57 AM (10 months, 4 days ago)

Thanks for the IDs everyone. I can start looking through
the pilosocereus genus and maybe find the species now.

Good looking on the santaensis's red spins Shaman.

Does anyone know if T.cuzcoensis is a variety or a species and
What distinguishes it from T.peruvianus?

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modern.shaman
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Re: T. peruvianus or T.santaensis? (cacti ID help)

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#16529338 - 07/14/12 09:41 AM (10 months, 4 days ago)

According to wiki which you may or may not like, it's listed as a variety of T.peruvianus.

There is a discussion on the topic there and a few good links you may want to check out on T.cuzcoensis and T.peruvianus
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/16427442

It may be a T.peruvianus as ferrel ID'd it's just that when I see bleach white long spines at the base I always shy towards cuzonoid. But your color does match a T.peruvianus

Just grow it out it may be easier to more closely ID as it's older and also looks nice.

Here is a 'true' peruvian, your spines don't match but there are lots of variations to the spines but your color holds true. So there's hope :smile:

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Re: T. peruvianus or T.santaensis? (cacti ID help)

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#16531690 - 07/14/12 09:10 PM (10 months, 3 days ago)

The bleaching might just be an environmental thing for mine, I noticed the
supposed P.gounellei has the same bleaching toward the base and so does
the top left one. Although that picture doesn't show it too well.

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Re: T. peruvianus or T.santaensis? (cacti ID help)

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#16547129 - 07/18/12 12:29 AM (10 months, 11 hours ago)

I just got these from a pharmacy :lol:

They look a lot more like a Ptorch,
It looks like there's around 7-10 spines per areola.

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Re: T. peruvianus or T.santaensis? (cacti ID help)

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#16547147 - 07/18/12 12:32 AM (10 months, 11 hours ago)

Straw flowers :facepalm:

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Re: T. peruvianus or T.santaensis? (cacti ID help)

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#16547199 - 07/18/12 12:43 AM (10 months, 11 hours ago)

they look like pilosocereus to me , and one of them is split down the middle :eek:

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Re: T. peruvianus or T.santaensis? (cacti ID help)

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#16548352 - 07/18/12 09:53 AM (10 months, 2 hours ago)

I believe the top right in the picture of four is Pilosocereus Azureus. I have one and it looks pretty dead on to me...

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Re: T. peruvianus or T.santaensis? (cacti ID help)

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#16549607 - 07/18/12 03:26 PM (9 months, 30 days ago)

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hookahhead said:
Straw flowers

I know

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atomicshaman said:
they look like pilosocereus to me , and one of them is split down the middle

That's from overwatering right? They look bulged to me. What about that points to pilosocereus?
I don't know what I was thinking now that I look at the pictues again. They look a lot less like
a Ptorch than the first one

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trophycase said:
I believe the top right in the picture of four is Pilosocereus Azureus. I have one and it looks pretty dead on to me...

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Re: T. peruvianus or T.santaensis? (cacti ID help)

[Re: IndigoSky]
#16549658 - 07/18/12 03:39 PM (9 months, 30 days ago)

i fucking hate straw flowers :onfire:

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