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 Re: Switching from BRF to WBS tek  [Re: Mugnath]
#16507913 - 07/10/12 05:04 AM (10 months, 9 days ago) |
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this is what it looks like now.
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Re: Switching from BRF to WBS tek [Re: slick20]
#16507919 - 07/10/12 05:10 AM (10 months, 9 days ago) |
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man you need to pull those dark ones off..
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Are they no good then? It seems from what I have read I am too wet. But my cake seems and feels dry... When fanning do I fan all of the mist off the cake and walls of chamber?
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Re: Switching from BRF to WBS tek [Re: slick20]
#16507945 - 07/10/12 05:28 AM (10 months, 9 days ago) |
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Yeah those black ones are abhorts, it's not a big deal if you leave them for a short time, but you want to remove them before they start rotting. Try and keep the verm casing on your cakes semi damp, you want to cause evaporation from the surface of your cakes, which induces pinning. This is the reason before your cakes pin, you mist and fan much more heavily, but when your cakes start fruiting, you mist less but more frequently, and fan.
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Re: Switching from BRF to WBS tek [Re: Mugnath]
#16514408 - 07/11/12 03:31 PM (10 months, 8 days ago) |
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I have been spraying and fanning like crazy. How should the cake feel to the touch? It feels dry to the touch before I spray and the very bottom is moist... how I imagine the wrest of the cake should feel. What are peoples opinions? Also I made my coir TEK monotub. It is bagged and I will post Pictures once
I induce FAE and light.
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Re: Switching from BRF to WBS tek [Re: slick20]
#16515250 - 07/11/12 06:31 PM (10 months, 8 days ago) |
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It sould feel damp, that is the reason you case it with verm after you dunk, so the verm holds water and keeps the cake semi moist. It provides a sorta microclimate to induce pinning as it evaporates.
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Re: Switching from BRF to WBS tek [Re: Mugnath]
#16515280 - 07/11/12 06:37 PM (10 months, 8 days ago) |
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Should I add another verm layer?
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Re: Switching from BRF to WBS tek [Re: slick20]
#16515297 - 07/11/12 06:40 PM (10 months, 8 days ago) |
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If your verm layer is no longer there, then I would. Are you using a sgfc? If so are you running a fan or have and current of air in the room?
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Re: Switching from BRF to WBS tek [Re: Mugnath]
#16515613 - 07/11/12 07:49 PM (10 months, 8 days ago) |
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Thats typical of mushrooms that got cold or wet shocked.. like after putting a cake back in the fridge (with a mushroom on it) and then pulling it out after a few days.. could be infrequent fresh air exchange too not sure.. ive seen that similar thing before but only on cakes i dunked for like 2-3 days.
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Re: Switching from BRF to WBS tek [Re: boneynerd]
#16517000 - 07/11/12 11:57 PM (10 months, 8 days ago) |
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I just have it in a box lined with a bag with verm and some hydroballs. I didn't feel the need to devote a big FC for the only cake I have.
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Re: Switching from BRF to WBS tek [Re: slick20]
#16517066 - 07/12/12 12:09 AM (10 months, 8 days ago) |
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I did not pit the cakes in the fridge for the soak. They couldn't have been below 72f at any point in their life. Soak was for about 34 hours. I feel i may have some infrequent air exchange.What would be a good spray/fan cycle? Should I have my fan going all the time or just a few minutes to evaporate the water droplets?
This is how I have been spraying and fanning. from 12:00 pm-3:00 I spray my mushrooms about 4-6 times(fan running this whole time. Light goes off. I get home from work at 12:30 am and spray another 5-6 times until 4:00 and light goes on.(usually a little less light)
I feel as if the excess fanning might be my demise at the same time I need adequate air exchange.
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Re: Switching from BRF to WBS tek [Re: slick20]
#16517432 - 07/12/12 01:17 AM (10 months, 8 days ago) |
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First off don't use a fan, fans collect gunk which you spray onto the cakes. Only dunk your cakes for 24 hours, that is long enough to hydrate them. If you are mid flush and cakes starts drying, place it in a plate of water for 6 hours. Only fan with the lid of your FC. Spray until the verm on your cakes appears moist before your flush, and then fan for about two minutes. Keep a 12/12 cycle with your lighting with a 6500k light. After your cake begins pinning, mist less but more frequently, I like to fan about every two hours while I'm home and awake (that is contstantly, before and after pinning is triggered). It takes some practice to get the right cycle with your cakes. If you can't keep FAE properly, I'd suggest using a fan (on it's lowest setting) pointing at an indirect wall to keep air slightly moving in the room, if you cannot be home to fan often.
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Re: Switching from BRF to WBS tek [Re: Mugnath]
#16519925 - 07/12/12 03:20 PM (10 months, 7 days ago) |
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I will set my cake on a plate tonight then. I am confused on this part though: "Spray until the verm on your cakes appears moist before your flush, and then fan for about two minutes." What do you mean before I flush?
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Re: Switching from BRF to WBS tek [Re: slick20]
#16520224 - 07/12/12 04:04 PM (10 months, 7 days ago) |
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Flush is when your cakes goes into reproductive mode, where is sprouts a bunch of pins. The reason you fan heavily is to cause evaporation from the cake, which is a trigger for the cake to pin.
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Re: Switching from BRF to WBS tek [Re: Mugnath]
#16541669 - 07/16/12 10:58 PM (10 months, 3 days ago) |
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BRF cake is still fairly dormant.I added some verm, now I am just waiting it out.
I checked my WBS monotub today for a 5 day check. Looks good! 
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Re: Switching from BRF to WBS tek [Re: slick20]
#16541966 - 07/16/12 11:42 PM (10 months, 3 days ago) |
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did u open it up before 100% to check it? openning a monotub b4 100% colonization leads to contaminations, never introduce FAE(Fresh Air Exchange) until 100%...
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Quote:
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did u open it up before 100% to check it? openning a monotub b4 100% colonization leads to contaminations, never introduce FAE(Fresh Air Exchange) until 100%...
 Never peek.
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Re: Switching from BRF to WBS tek [Re: Mugnath]
#16546182 - 07/17/12 08:15 PM (10 months, 2 days ago) |
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Ooops! I Hope it will stay contaminant free! My cake has begun to pin. I resolved my dry cake issue by piling some verm on the lower half of the sides and I am keeping a thick patch on top also.
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Re: Switching from BRF to WBS tek [Re: slick20]
#16568455 - 07/22/12 03:50 PM (9 months, 28 days ago) |
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So my cake finally pinned off and started taking off. I have been noting how fat and full the stems are up until today....
The stems turned very hollow and light looking. I know this can be common, but it seems like this will definitely reduce overall growth. if I had to gather an assumption I would say my FC could be too wet. However When I searched about this it seemed as if rapid temp fluctuation (of extremes which could not have really happened and doesn't seem that likely)
and LOW humidity which does not seem to factor as my FC is very moist.
....Or am I just worrying too much? I still see new pins have formed and more growth on a lot of the smaller mushies.
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