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OfflineBrennus
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Woman killed after hug caused cop's gun to fire
    #16503087 - 07/09/12 10:58 AM (10 months, 6 days ago)

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Police say a woman was killed when she hugged an off-duty police officer in Detroit, which caused his gun to fire, fatally wounding her. Adaisha Miller was celebrating the weekend before her 25th birthday at an outside party when the tragic incident happened at around 12.30 a.m. According to police, Adaisha hugged the officer from behind, which caused his "holstered weapon to accidentally discharge." She died in hospital after the bullet punctured her lung and hit her heart. Police say they are investigating the shooting. "For this to happen to her, whether they want to call it freak accident or mistake in judgment, it should have never happened to my child," said Adaisha's mother, Yolanda McNair.




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Re: Woman killed after hug caused cop's gun to fire [Re: Brennus]
    #16503099 - 07/09/12 11:03 AM (10 months, 6 days ago)

Stuff like this makes me sad.... very tragic loss of life.


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Re: Woman killed after hug caused cop's gun to fire [Re: HybridprX] * 3
    #16503113 - 07/09/12 11:18 AM (10 months, 6 days ago)

This is a sad story, but a good reason why guns should have their safeties on when on a person.

I kinda feel sorry for the officer. It's most likely his fault, but now he has to live with that event for te rest of his life.

Also, this thread belongs in the pub as I believe it falls out of the scope of the news service.


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Re: Woman killed after hug caused cop's gun to fire [Re: Ieponumos]
    #16503158 - 07/09/12 11:32 AM (10 months, 6 days ago)

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Adaisha hugged the officer from behind, which caused his "holstered weapon to accidentally discharge." She died in hospital after the bullet punctured her lung and hit her heart




Was she hugging his knees? Whether this was accidental or not that just seems weird.


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Re: Woman killed after hug caused cop's gun to fire [Re: Ieponumos] * 2
    #16503376 - 07/09/12 12:48 PM (10 months, 6 days ago)

Guns don't just go off.

He was off-duty and therefore is responsible for his weapon.
If this was a regular citizen with all the same rights, they would be in prison and this would cause a concealed carry outrage.


Edited by theshroom (07/09/12 12:48 PM)


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Re: Woman killed after hug caused cop's gun to fire [Re: Slayer1024]
    #16503402 - 07/09/12 12:56 PM (10 months, 6 days ago)

the magic bullet! anyways this is pretty sad the officer is probably going to feel like shit for a long while


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Re: Woman killed after hug caused cop's gun to fire [Re: allseeingike]
    #16503502 - 07/09/12 01:27 PM (10 months, 6 days ago)

There is something that sounds off here. Show me one way to holster a gun upwards and backwards. I can think of one that is backwards, but I can't imagine one that points under the lung and upwards to the heart.... Maybe I am just being paranoid.


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Re: Woman killed after hug caused cop's gun to fire [Re: tacodude] * 1
    #16503516 - 07/09/12 01:32 PM (10 months, 6 days ago)

shoulder holster...


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Re: Woman killed after hug caused cop's gun to fire [Re: theshroom]
    #16503528 - 07/09/12 01:35 PM (10 months, 6 days ago)

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theshroom said:
Guns don't just go off.

He was off-duty and therefore is responsible for his weapon.
If this was a regular citizen with all the same rights, they would be in prison and this would cause a concealed carry outrage.





Guns have been known to go off by applying pressure in the wrong place.


He is clearly not responsible for this accident. He had his gun concealed legally and in a proper fashion. I know how much this board loves to get on the hating cops train, but you are pulling at nothing. It was a freak accident and it's sad. There is nothing more to this.


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Re: Woman killed after hug caused cop's gun to fire [Re: withoutawire]
    #16503569 - 07/09/12 01:44 PM (10 months, 6 days ago)

withoutawire I am so glad to hear that you were there to witness this and therefore give us proof that this was a fucked up accident! Oh wait...

I am AOK with questioning this cop... He killed someone, whether it was a freak accident or not, his improperly concealed (not safety'd) weapon ended a young girls life!

I would like to hear some more from the people on the patio who probably watched a scared cop shoot a young girl.

Again, it could be an accident in the truest sense. I have been conditioned not only to not believe anything cops and their leaders say, but I don't trust the media at all.


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Re: Woman killed after hug caused cop's gun to fire [Re: Doctor_Ew420]
    #16503627 - 07/09/12 01:58 PM (10 months, 6 days ago)

They do have those holsters that point straight back from your side. You reach and grab it with your hand on the opposite side. If he was taller than her it could easily hit her lung from the holstered position.

I suppose he could have freaked out when someone surprised hugged him from behind and shot first and asked questions later.

We really don't know though so we'll just have to take the article at face value unless more details come out in the investigation.


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Re: Woman killed after hug caused cop's gun to fire [Re: dressel11]
    #16503758 - 07/09/12 02:28 PM (10 months, 6 days ago)

very very sad.

either i dont understand guns or the world is upside down but dont guns have safety's? i understand revolvers typically do not have them while every hand gun does.

kinda confused about the cop's logic because he was rolling up to a party with a hot gun. ive been through college so i have been to my fair share of parties. never saw anything get too violent to require someone holding a live gun. fist fights settled everything that got too big and those were few and far between.


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Re: Woman killed after hug caused cop's gun to fire [Re: theshroom]
    #16503928 - 07/09/12 03:06 PM (10 months, 6 days ago)

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theshroom said:
Guns don't just go off.

He was off-duty and therefore is responsible for his weapon.
If this was a regular citizen with all the same rights, they would be in prison and this would cause a concealed carry outrage.




sadly, I agree


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Re: Woman killed after hug caused cop's gun to fire [Re: tealeaf]
    #16504061 - 07/09/12 03:38 PM (10 months, 6 days ago)

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tealeaf said:
very very sad.



kinda confused about the cop's logic because he was rolling up to a party with a hot gun. ive been through college so i have been to my fair share of parties. never saw anything get too violent to require someone holding a live gun. fist fights settled everything that got too big and those were few and far between.




Idk where you live but in my region, I would love to be able to carry a concealed weapon. Thinking fist fights resolve situations nowadays is kind've naive. 

It's a sad accident. If it was anything else witnesses would be attesting to that fact and we would have heard a different story.  Just cause many of ya'll don't like the media doesn't mean it's always full of bullshit. 

Story seems true, as sad as it is.


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Re: Woman killed after hug caused cop's gun to fire [Re: tealeaf]
    #16504082 - 07/09/12 03:46 PM (10 months, 6 days ago)

Not all guns have safeties. once there is one in the chamber its good to go. It's perfectly legal in most conceal carry states to have one in the chamber. neither of my pistols have safeties.


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Re: Woman killed after hug caused cop's gun to fire [Re: Doctor_Ew420]
    #16504362 - 07/09/12 04:50 PM (10 months, 6 days ago)

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withoutawire I am so glad to hear that you were there to witness this and therefore give us proof that this was a fucked up accident! Oh wait...

I am AOK with questioning this cop... He killed someone, whether it was a freak accident or not, his improperly concealed (not safety'd) weapon ended a young girls life!

I would like to hear some more from the people on the patio who probably watched a scared cop shoot a young girl.

Again, it could be an accident in the truest sense. I have been conditioned not only to not believe anything cops and their leaders say, but I don't trust the media at all.





Not all guns have safeties. There is no law requiring people to use a safety when they carry guns as well. If a gun was double action it's not carried with any safety on, not to mention guns can go off by applying pressure in the wrong place.

I'm also not naive enough to make up a bunch of unreported facts and try to blame a police officer simply because I don't like them. You on the other hand appear to decide facts before they are presented. That's really too bad because we live in a free country where you are innocent until proven guilty.


Get off your high horse and stop trying to make drama and conspiracy where there isn't any. An accident happened, it's too bad. You come off like a DEA agent trying to get vindictive with people when there is nothing more.


That's what we know for now. The entire story does sound fishy but jumping to conclusions because of a prejudice against officers is wrong. The issue isn't the safety, it's the fact that a holstered weapon means the trigger is covered.


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Re: Woman killed after hug caused cop's gun to fire [Re: withoutawire]
    #16504507 - 07/09/12 05:27 PM (10 months, 6 days ago)

She probably would have lived if she had kicked him in the nuts. God damn cops.


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Re: Woman killed after hug caused cop's gun to fire [Re: 5-HT2A] * 1
    #16504784 - 07/09/12 06:37 PM (10 months, 6 days ago)

Wanting to hug a pig is a crime against nature.
Nature took her out.


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Re: Woman killed after hug caused cop's gun to fire [Re: 5-HT2A]
    #16504838 - 07/09/12 06:49 PM (10 months, 6 days ago)

Isn't there a thread in the pub RIGHT NOW about how glocks are terrible for a bevvy of reasons?

Who wants to bet this was a glock?



I guarantee it wasn't a revolver.






If this happened to anyone else they'd probably be in jail.


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Re: Woman killed after hug caused cop's gun to fire [Re: Humility]
    #16504892 - 07/09/12 07:01 PM (10 months, 6 days ago)

Ya, probably a glock.


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