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 PaperWasp
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 LSD: Normal to have lasting visuals?? 
#16490755 - 07/06/12 05:06 PM (11 months, 6 days ago) |
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Hey all
Just curious... I've dosed what I believe to be LSD twice one week apart from each other. The first time i was with a friend and we each took one blotter, staggering it with two half tabs an hour apart. I tripped pretty good, had a new perspective and thought pattern. Had some intense visuals. The second time I tripped alone, and I took one-and-a-half tabs at once. At my peak I had insane, incredibly complex and beautiful visuals, and began losing a lot of my ego....thought loops....and i felt so comfortable with it...I almost considered taking more because I loved it so much....I felt I was one with everything. Very intense, just fucking lovely.
At about 18 hours, while i hadn't felt "high" for quite some time and i definitely wasn't tripping anymore, I still noticed some visuals when i paid attention and if I focused my eyes just right...posters animating....text on my monitor dancing slightly....and as I before I went to bed and became more tired, they seemed to intensify a little more.
My question is, is this normal of LSD? To notice certain effects for a longer duration if you have a more profound/intense trip? Is this just part of the afterglow? (As i said, I wasn't tripping anymore....my standard thought process was back in gear).... Or is this more known of 5-MeO-AMT or other RCs? I've heard of people tripping for 24 hours on high doses of Alice....but I dunno. What do you guys think?
Also, I've got marquis and ehrlich's reagent coming in the mail in the next bit....I know marquis will turn olive black in the presence of LSD...but I've heard that it reacts this way to simply paper. Can anyone confirm this? Should i extract with ethanol....say vodka....or can I just drop half a blotter in? I know you can with ehrlich's, just not marquis. It's EzTest btw. Thanks errrrybuddy.
I also recently posted a detailed reiteration experience to get some answers about a few other things.
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 Re: LSD: Normal to have lasting visuals?? [Re: PaperWasp]
#16490817 - 07/06/12 05:22 PM (11 months, 6 days ago) |
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Some people get those visuals for the rest of their life so define normal  I wouldn't worry about it though as long as you're down now. I've had dmt afterglow last 2 hours so I'm sure it happens
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Yeah, it's called Hallucinogen Persisting Perception Disorder, and a rather large percentage of psychonauts have some degree of it. It can range from mild to heavy distortions, and can last anywhere from a couple days to the rest of your life.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hallucinogen_persisting_perception_disorder
The thing is that it's not guaranteed that a person will get HPPD from taking psychedelics. Some people trip once or twice like you did and get it, and some people trip all the time and don't get it. I've been tripping my fair share the past year or so, and I've got a mild form of it. Honestly, it doesn't bother me in the least, because it typically only happens when I stare at intricate patterns, or zone off staring at the carpet or something. A lot of people call them freebies because they're like free visuals  .
Abstaining from psychedelic drugs will definitely help, or at least stop it from getting worse. If you quit completely, it could go away in a few days, or a few months, or never. It's hard to say, because we don't really understand how it happens. The way I see it, so long as it doesn't interfere with my ability to function (and it doesn't), I'm all good. I enjoy watching them since they really only happen when I pay attention. When I smoke weed, I notice the residual visuals enhance my high.
Bottom line is that it's not much to worry about unless you don't like it, or feel like it interferes with your life too much. If you're not comfortable having these visuals, make sure to moderate your use, or quit altogether, because it appears as if you're among those that have HPPD.
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Re: LSD: Normal to have lasting visuals?? [Re: Psilosomniac]
#16490876 - 07/06/12 05:38 PM (11 months, 6 days ago) |
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Let's not throw the hppd card out yet. Op only had it for a few hours after 
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Quote:
JacksonMetaller said:
Let's not throw the hppd card out yet. Op only had it for a few hours after
This is true. I wasn't really paying attention to the timeframe.
I guess it's technically still HPPD if it lasts longer than the drug is supposed to last. I mean, HPPD can just last a few days, after all. But yeah, it is fairly common to have minor visual distortions that last into the next day or so.
I say if it lasts more than a week, it's HPPD. But it could last something like two weeks and go away . I dunno, I figured it was relevant information at least 
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Re: LSD: Normal to have lasting visuals?? [Re: Psilosomniac]
#16490937 - 07/06/12 05:52 PM (11 months, 6 days ago) |
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For sure definitely relevant. I just don't want op to get scared thinking something's wrong just yet  they really need a new word for it. Hppd is so intimidating.
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Quote:
JacksonMetaller said:
For sure definitely relevant. I just don't want op to get scared thinking something's wrong just yet they really need a new word for it. Hppd is so intimidating.
Freebies!
Yeah, I hate scaring people with this HPPD stuff. It really isn't that bad at all. Like I said, I enjoy having it because it makes my weed highs more visual  .
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Re: LSD: Normal to have lasting visuals?? [Re: Psilosomniac]
#16492333 - 07/06/12 11:21 PM (11 months, 6 days ago) |
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I find to to be pretty common, especially if the trip itself was that intense in visuals and the highs.
As for things getting more intense as you approach tiredness and sleep:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypnagogia
I find a lot of the time my brain activity is still very high after taking most substances when I'm about to fall asleep. So much so that even long after coming down, my brain still makes some of the trippiest, fucked up, whacky shit. Songs, visuals,etc.
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Re: LSD: Normal to have lasting visuals?? [Re: muirileD]
#16492750 - 07/07/12 12:37 AM (11 months, 6 days ago) |
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i had hppd my very first lsd trip of 250-300. It lasted maybe 3 weeks, and was strong 1-2 weeks. any screen i looked at looked to be full of other colors like it what "white" and yet full of other tints
also was the static-vision i'd get where everything looked grainy and kinda liquid or "like lava".
and you get minor tracers or trails of light, it's brighter for awhile, and overwhelms your vision for a bit. Also, theres the afterglow of happiness content and worry-free that lasts about a week. things morph a bit if you focus too, and you can lucid dream (if you know how) much better.
Don't sweat, it's better than being completely sober 
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It's not that the LSD remains in your system. To me, it seems that the brain simply remembers certain distortions/shifting visuals.
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Re: LSD: Normal to have lasting visuals?? [Re: ozsultan]
#16492988 - 07/07/12 01:31 AM (11 months, 6 days ago) |
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If it's good and you eat enough yes.
After my Jimson then printing experience I see the world complete different than most.
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Re: LSD: Normal to have lasting visuals?? [Re: Maharishi_2_U]
#16493221 - 07/07/12 02:27 AM (11 months, 6 days ago) |
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Thanks for the replies everyone. Aside from being inexperienced in the world of LSD, I actually know a shit ton about it, including HPPD, I just had a few subjective questions i suppose. Really, HPPD is like a "flashback" that is semi-persistent and at varying degrees of intensity. I haven't seen anything since I went to bed and awoke....it was just the lasting effects of the drug i suppose. And in terms of seeing patterns on things....I wouldnt call it HPPD (as this is classified as disorder when it has a largely negative impact on one's life) so much as just being aware of what this shit looks like since i've now experienced it....and then seeing it because of this....the brain is a powerful thing, as I'm sure anyone can attest to. I mean, in waking conscoiusness, if you focus, you can see all sorts of light phosphenes that obstruct your vision...people just learn to ignore them and don't know they're there, ya know?
I've just been kinda paranoid about RCs. Regardless, I tend to be hyper aware of anything i experience....be it drugs or anything else....i mean, i can't smoke pot anymore lol it just fucks with me, so minutely, but it makes a huge difference, whereas someone else is cool with it. I'm pretty positive what i took is LSD, and I'll be testing it just to double-check when it arrives, but i figured I'd see what y'all think about it.
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Re: LSD: Normal to have lasting visuals?? [Re: PaperWasp]
#16493246 - 07/07/12 02:35 AM (11 months, 6 days ago) |
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try to get a blacklight, and then see if theres a distinctly bitter or metallic taste.
Maybe a rare few rc's glow like acid does (i wouldn't do it too long to avoid potency loss).
if its anything but tasteless, ESPECIALLY on blotter/paper, besides papery taste then it could be an rc.
Lsd has to be one of the most trickiest drugs to confirm
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Re: LSD: Normal to have lasting visuals?? [Re: muirileD]
#16493366 - 07/07/12 03:07 AM (11 months, 6 days ago) |
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Quote:
muirileD said:
I find a lot of the time my brain activity is still very high after taking most substances when I'm about to fall asleep. So much so that even long after coming down, my brain still makes some of the trippiest, fucked up, whacky shit. Songs, visuals,etc.
This exact same thing happened to me the other week when I dosed at night, and had to smoke a ton of weed to get to sleep since I had stayed up till sunrise. When I closed my eyes, I could see full on visualizer style visuals dancing to music that I was hearing in my head that I had never heard before. It was exactly like listening to music and watching Milkdrop or something like that. Fuckin' unreal. And this was on the comedown. I just smoked a ton, and it kicked back the trip a bit.
And OP, it sounds like you understand HPPD well enough not to be afraid of it. I mean, I guess it's not HPPD if it doesn't interfere with your life, but considering that factor is subjective, it's in the eye of the beholder. I would still call it HPPD even if you don't consider it negative. It's the same condition, it's just mild enough to not interfere with your ability to function.
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 Re: LSD: Normal to have lasting visuals?? [Re: Psilosomniac]
#16502402 - 07/09/12 04:59 AM (11 months, 4 days ago) |
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Ah, well right on. Got ehrlich and marquis reagent coming in this week to test em. Also, tripped again today with some friends, went on an insane adventure by the river where i live. We just ran on trails and lol'd at shit the entire time. Sheer bliss. But ohhhhhhh boy do I just love sunburn.
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