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 Baern
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 Okay - what is this? Supposed to be PE 
#16489583 - 07/06/12 12:29 PM (10 months, 9 days ago) |
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Hey guys, so AFOAF started growing these guys from a MS syringe to LC to Grains to this tub. Grew a couple strains simultaneously and might have mislabeled something. But this is his first grow after a couple failed cake attemepts, and he doesn't really know one strain from another.
Ideas?
Oh and while we're at it and I got the pics up, why is only part of the top layer pinning and the rest has like spiderweb mycellium growing?
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Re: Okay - what is this? Supposed to be PE [Re: Baern]
#16489599 - 07/06/12 12:35 PM (10 months, 9 days ago) |
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Not sure but it doesn't look like PE. MS PE usually has blobs on the first flush. So you will probably be able to tell which one is PE once it starts to fruit.
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Oh and while we're at it and I got the pics up, why is only part of the top layer pinning and the rest has like spiderweb mycellium growing?
That's normal. Pinning on the entire surface is hard to get. Especially with MS. It's the will of the mushrooms.
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Re: Okay - what is this? Supposed to be PE [Re: Wing]
#16489610 - 07/06/12 12:40 PM (10 months, 9 days ago) |
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Hey thanks for the reply. I'm actually leaning towards this being mislabeled on the MS syringe, rather than when the LC's were made. I think it's definitely a cube though. Would you say Isolates are more likely to get blanket pinning?
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Re: Okay - what is this? Supposed to be PE [Re: Baern]
#16489634 - 07/06/12 12:46 PM (10 months, 9 days ago) |
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Yea it's a cube for sure.
Depends on the isolate and how well you can maintain perfect pinning conditions.
Cubes don't need a casing layer but it will help pinning.
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Re: Okay - what is this? Supposed to be PE [Re: Wing]
#16489642 - 07/06/12 12:48 PM (10 months, 9 days ago) |
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Whatever strain they are they sure look yummy. Mmmmmmm.
Fresh cubes iz sooooooooooo tasty.......
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Re: Okay - what is this? Supposed to be PE [Re: Wing]
#16489662 - 07/06/12 12:54 PM (10 months, 9 days ago) |
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I kinda did like a mini casing layer thing, as per Damions Coir Tek. I think that helped. So stoked to have these grow though, bulk seems to be working out waaaaaay better than cakes for me.
Excited to try again with an isolate! What do you recommend casing with?
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Re: Okay - what is this? Supposed to be PE [Re: Ganzig]
#16489664 - 07/06/12 12:54 PM (10 months, 9 days ago) |
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They look like my Golden Teachers looked
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Re: Okay - what is this? Supposed to be PE [Re: baltimark]
#16489676 - 07/06/12 12:59 PM (10 months, 9 days ago) |
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baltimark said:
They look like my Golden Teachers looked
We'll know soon! 
I'm going to guess mazapatec for the hell of it. Stem and cap look the same.
GT is in my avatar.
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Re: Okay - what is this? Supposed to be PE [Re: baltimark]
#16489683 - 07/06/12 01:01 PM (10 months, 9 days ago) |
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I did a search for golden teacher pics, I think your right. I checked out what GT pins look like and they are basically identical to how mine looked. I guess my caps will open up eventually, because initially I discounted that possibility because the caps looked wrong for GT.
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Re: Okay - what is this? Supposed to be PE [Re: Baern]
#16489968 - 07/06/12 02:20 PM (10 months, 9 days ago) |
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There is no way in hell that we could ID a Cubensis strain, with very few exceptions. You can sometimes figure out the strain if you have an albino or a PE variation, but other than that, you're just guessing.
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Re: Okay - what is this? Supposed to be PE [Re: 36fuckin5]
#16490036 - 07/06/12 02:35 PM (10 months, 9 days ago) |
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36fuckin5 said:
There is no way in hell that we could ID a Cubensis strain, with very few exceptions. You can sometimes figure out the strain if you have an albino or a PE variation, but other than that, you're just guessing.
QFT
The extra layer of coir on top doesn't do anything for pinning since it's nutritious the mycelium will colonize it rendering it useless. The "frosting" layer is more for keeping exposed grains to a minimum.
Casing layers can vary but for the most part people use 50/50 peat/verm with a touch of lime.
I use Miracle Grow with high peat content then add verm and lime. It's just easier for me since the places around where I live want way too much for peat.
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Re: Okay - what is this? Supposed to be PE [Re: Wing]
#16490090 - 07/06/12 02:48 PM (10 months, 9 days ago) |
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Wing said:
Not sure but it doesn't look like PE. MS PE usually has blobs on the first flush. So you will probably be able to tell which one is PE once it starts to fruit.
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Oh and while we're at it and I got the pics up, why is only part of the top layer pinning and the rest has like spiderweb mycellium growing?
That's normal. Pinning on the entire surface is hard to get. Especially with MS. It's the will of the mushrooms.
When I've used 100% horse manure substrates in small monotubs I get hundreds of pins strewn all accross the surface. So far it's always been with MS. Lucky, I guess.
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