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Salvia 10x how much should i take?
#16470046 - 07/02/12 02:33 PM (10 months, 16 days ago) |
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hey guys, bought some salvia on saturday, just waiting for the postman to bring it to me anyways i havent done psycadelics before the only drugs i have done is weed and ecstasy so how much should i take of 10x? some people have said 0.1 grams? what sort of thing will i see on that amount? im pretty small and light, so yeah thanks guys!
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Re: Salvia 10x how much should i take? [Re: Mrliam]
#16470176 - 07/02/12 03:03 PM (10 months, 16 days ago) |
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0.1 or 0.2 g is ok, I suppose you want to smoke it with a bong or pipe? You should make sure the flame of your lighter is in contact with the extract at all times, since you need a high temperature for salvia to work. Furthermore, hold the smoke for as long as you can! Oh, and expect a bumpy ride for you first time.
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Re: Salvia 10x how much should i take? [Re: Intervention]
#16470354 - 07/02/12 03:45 PM (10 months, 16 days ago) |
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yeh with a bong, would i see visuals from 0.1 grams do you think? or just a super high?
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Re: Salvia 10x how much should i take? [Re: Mrliam]
#16470366 - 07/02/12 03:47 PM (10 months, 16 days ago) |
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Thats a good start. For me the visuals were similar to whippets but much scarier. Salvia is a great drug but it can be harsh to you, good news it only last a couple minutes.
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Re: Salvia 10x how much should i take? [Re: DocShroom]
#16470382 - 07/02/12 03:50 PM (10 months, 16 days ago) |
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never had whippets :L dead excited though, at the minute im just looking for very vibrant colors, and distorted things
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Re: Salvia 10x how much should i take? [Re: Mrliam]
#16470398 - 07/02/12 03:53 PM (10 months, 16 days ago) |
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I'd go for 0.1 g. I personally felt like riding a rollercoaster on that last time I used salvia. The stuff is insane.
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Re: Salvia 10x how much should i take? [Re: Intervention]
#16470434 - 07/02/12 03:58 PM (10 months, 16 days ago) |
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cool!, is that stuff harsh on your throat at all?
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Re: Salvia 10x how much should i take? [Re: Mrliam]
#16470468 - 07/02/12 04:05 PM (10 months, 16 days ago) |
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Not any different to weed. Maybe even smoother, especially with a bong. Make sure you lose the bong right after you take the hit, or you might shatter it!
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Re: Salvia 10x how much should i take? [Re: Intervention]
#16470521 - 07/02/12 04:17 PM (10 months, 16 days ago) |
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awesome thanks a lot guys, now i just wait for it to come -.-
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Re: Salvia 10x how much should i take? [Re: Intervention]
#16470531 - 07/02/12 04:19 PM (10 months, 16 days ago) |
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expect sensations you can't even imagine yet.
i don't know how many times I've thought I was in some kind of store in another universe.
and for the love of Michael Houser sit or lay down when you do it.
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Re: Salvia 10x how much should i take? [Re: lurkmode]
#16470580 - 07/02/12 04:31 PM (10 months, 16 days ago) |
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yeh defo be sitting down, i suppose ill not know what im doing right? my mate had it not long ago, he was sitting down his eyes where rolling everywhere lol, he said its a feeling you cant really describe, any more info anyone wants to share? ill gladly read
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Re: Salvia 10x how much should i take? [Re: Mrliam]
#16470821 - 07/02/12 05:22 PM (10 months, 16 days ago) |
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It's really about dimensions and objects and gravity. That's it. Once it hits (while you hold the smoke), you'll feel pulled away by forces you've never felt, which is really bizarre. As I said, the rollercoastereffect (as I like to call it) sets in next. A good thing for that part is to have some steady music going on, think Tame Impala, Jefferson Airplane, Pink Floyd, or anything you like. I strongly recommend Tame Impala though. And enjoy the ride.
Oh, btw, you might feel like a moron.
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Re: Salvia 10x how much should i take? [Re: Intervention]
#16470867 - 07/02/12 05:30 PM (10 months, 16 days ago) |
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thanks alot, ill have some good music on probs, and ill be telling my friends not to try and freak me out -.- just hoping for some nice visuals more than anything, but whatever happens, im just going to go with the flow hopefully
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Re: Salvia 10x how much should i take? [Re: Intervention]
#16470965 - 07/02/12 05:47 PM (10 months, 16 days ago) |
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Intervention said: Not any different to weed. Maybe even smoother, especially with a bong. Make sure you lose the bong right after you take the hit, or you might shatter it!
Incorrect. Salvinorin A (the active chemical) vaporizes at a much higher temperature than THC. Thus, it is harsher.
OP, it doesn't matter how much you pack into your bowl. You don't need to weigh your salvia dosage. Just pack your bowl, hit it hard, hold your breath and repeat until you can't understand what you're supposed to do with a lighter and a bong.
You want to take big hits, but don't over do it. Don't take a huge hit that makes you cough it all out. Take as big a hit as you can hold for thirty seconds or so. Then take another and another until you can't smoke anymore.
Don't smoke it in a room full of people. You should have a sitter and perhaps one or two other people who have tried salvia before. I find that those that haven't can be very rude and disrespectful during another person's trip. Salvia has a way of making people feel paranoid when there are too many people around.
Also, music doesn't matter if you take enough. You won't hear it once you're in salvia land. You won't even know what music is until you come back to reality.
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Re: Salvia 10x how much should i take? [Re: healing]
#16471042 - 07/02/12 06:04 PM (10 months, 16 days ago) |
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healing said:
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Intervention said: Not any different to weed. Maybe even smoother, especially with a bong. Make sure you lose the bong right after you take the hit, or you might shatter it!
Incorrect. Salvinorin A (the active chemical) vaporizes at a much higher temperature than THC. Thus, it is harsher.
OP, it doesn't matter how much you pack into your bowl. You don't need to weigh your salvia dosage. Just pack your bowl, hit it hard, hold your breath and repeat until you can't understand what you're supposed to do with a lighter and a bong.
You want to take big hits, but don't over do it. Don't take a huge hit that makes you cough it all out. Take as big a hit as you can hold for thirty seconds or so. Then take another and another until you can't smoke anymore.
Don't smoke it in a room full of people. You should have a sitter and perhaps one or two other people who have tried salvia before. I find that those that haven't can be very rude and disrespectful during another person's trip. Salvia has a way of making people feel paranoid when there are too many people around.
Also, music doesn't matter if you take enough. You won't hear it once you're in salvia land. You won't even know what music is until you come back to reality.
Have to disagree with you there, your story about temp and stuff is true, but in my personal opinion it's just as smooth as weed in a bong. And music helps me when the salvia starts to work, it feels like an accelerator
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Re: Salvia 10x how much should i take? [Re: Intervention]
#16473152 - 07/03/12 02:33 AM (10 months, 16 days ago) |
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well, ill just have to find out not sure about packing the bowl straight away though, after all, i have never hallucinated before, and if i take too big a hit to start i think ill get paranoid, i do on too much weed
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Re: Salvia 10x how much should i take? [Re: Mrliam]
#16473475 - 07/03/12 04:32 AM (10 months, 16 days ago) |
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Mrliam said: well, ill just have to find out not sure about packing the bowl straight away though, after all, i have never hallucinated before, and if i take too big a hit to start i think ill get paranoid, i do on too much weed
It's not like weed. I've seen people who try to work their way up with salvia, but end up thinking that it has nothing more to it than some strange body sensations. If you're not smoking enough you'll only get the initial effect, which feels like your whole body is asleep, all pins and needles.
Don't worry too much about what it's going to feel like to trip. There's nothing to compare it to, so you have to find out for yourself. Take a look around, though. Many people love to trip. They have all felt the same way you do now.
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Re: Salvia 10x how much should i take? [Re: Intervention]
#16473798 - 07/03/12 08:30 AM (10 months, 16 days ago) |
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Intervention said: 0.1 or 0.2 g is ok, I suppose you want to smoke it with a bong or pipe? You should make sure the flame of your lighter is in contact with the extract at all times, since you need a high temperature for salvia to work. Furthermore, hold the smoke for as long as you can! Oh, and expect a bumpy ride for you first time.
you may need 0.1g but I use much much less than that. and you do not need a high temperature, since you are smoking it not vaping it. to smoke you burn the leaves (a simple lighter or match would do) and the active ingredient (salvinorin-a) will enter the smokestream as tiny liquid droplets, not gas. your lungs are well equipped to take liquid droplets of salvinorin. vaporization temperatures will sear your mouth and lungs.
I recommend a short pipe so that you lose less to collection on the pipe's tubular inner surfaces.
I probably have the most posts about salvia and salvinorin on this forum and I would not steer you wrong.
as for what you will see, that is your experience content, it is not dictated by the drug. it is dictated by you - your environment, your relationship to your environment,& your history.
The drug alters your state of mind (mental resonance, and time space sense) and if you take a lot, the resonance will become extreme (like feedback) and you will have no sense of time passing - space will be altered dramatically in accord with all moments being superimposed.
If you take too much the resonance and time distortion disable memory function - you have a blackout. However this is not to be feared, the drug is not poisonous - the effects are all mental.
If you take less than a large amount less resonance and time distortion will occur.
the difference with salvia is the speed of effect.
the full effect will be upon you within 90 seconds, and it will pass between 3 and 10 minutes depending on how it was taken in.
arrange for someone to oversee you and prevent you from sleepwalking (occurs commonly when someone takes 0.1 gm of 10x)
My advice is to relax and keep on relaxing, to let go and keep on letting go. follow the sensations and keep on relaxing.
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Re: Salvia 10x how much should i take? [Re: redgreenvines]
#16475023 - 07/03/12 03:02 PM (10 months, 15 days ago) |
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thanks alot, ive been dying to try and hallucinate for months now, and next week, ill finally have my time, i know its not poisonous aswel, after all from what ive read it comes from the mint family of plants, yeah iv heard from people that have done salvia and when they have a good trip, it really is an amazing experience, one more question though, ive saw some people say that psychedelics can change the way they see life, what does this mean? :P
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Re: Salvia 10x how much should i take? [Re: Mrliam]
#16476064 - 07/03/12 06:42 PM (10 months, 15 days ago) |
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Ayahuasca, mushrooms, etc., imo are better at analyzing the world and finding areas that you can better yourself. That part is about tapping into truths about the nature of reality and while 'reality' is tangible at times when tripping you seem to always have some kind of profound leap that if you integrate into your life it's for the better.
Trust me dude, salvia can be crazy out of control. You'll barely be thinking about anything and probably won't get a good handle on what is happening to you until it's over with.
It's really strange and about the only thing it can be even remotely compared to is very high doses of inhalants. I had some doubts about whether there was hype involved when I first tried it and went for Level 6 dose. While I'm glad I did it I'll never try for 'very strong' doses ever again.
It's easily the weirdest stuff out there.
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