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So this is my first official grow, but I've been haunting this site for a while now and soaking in all the info I could.
It's been 22 days since inoculation of my 12 1/2 pint jars with B+ using BRF and PF tek and 11 of them are coming along nicely. No contaminants of any kind, and the one that has no growth simply has no growth (I suspect I didn't agitate the syringe enough and this is the first one inoculated).
In fact, some of them seem to even be showing signs of early pining
I'm going to give the few that are 95% done another week before birthing (making it 29 days from inoculation) and will be using a SGFC.
My ultimate goal is to extract and concentrate the psilocin and psilocybin without the need for drying (and thus less loss of psilocin). I've studied erowid's teks and I'm quite confident I can create a tek for long term storage ready for human consumption using only household items. I even have mayers test reagent to verify once I begin testing (I found it cheaper than to make dragendorff's reagent).
Well, I personally see no point in chemically extracting psilocin and psilocybin, but good luck to you either way! I'll be following the grow regardless of your end game.
I am curious, however, you said:
Quote: MrBreakingBad said: My ultimate goal is to extract and concentrate the psilocin and psilocybin without the need for drying (and thus less loss of psilocin)
If you dry your product properly, the tryptamine loss is negligible.
Like I said, your grow, your experiment, I don't see the point, but I wish you luck on your endeavors!
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The one jar is really starting to pin. It's not 100% cultivated yet, so I know I have to wait, but if they start getting to big I may have to birth pre-maturely and just cut off the uncultivated substrate. I don't even have the equipment needed for my SGFC, so I guess I'd better get on that
If it's pinning early, I would birth it outside and spawn it to poo or the compost heap. Early pinning is often the sign of a bacterial contamination. 1 cake is never worth the risk of introducing contaminates to your FC.
This one is the most developed, but a number of my cakes are showing signs of pining all throughout the cake.
I don't believe it's contamination. I am at day 23 and it's been rather hot so it stands to reason they could simply be ready to birth. That being said, it certainly is possible that it could be bacteria, but it's not just one that's showing signs. And there is no smell or appear slimy.
I really don't think it's contam. several of my cakes look like this, with the pins appearing randomly. And my one cake which shows no growth still has no growth. It's sort of acting like a control.
So, I think I'm going to have to birth them, and like now. The pins are three times the size now then when I took that photo and there are countless on the cake.
I do fear birthing them early, but if it's pinning like crazy is it wise to leave them in the jars?
The only part which appears to not be completely colonized is the very top. I've read some people have birth their cakes when this happens and simply cut off the un-colonized portion.
If the pins get too big though, would it be too late to do a dunk and roll?
Quote: MrBreakingBad said: The only part which appears to not be completely colonized is the very top. I've read some people have birth their cakes when this happens and simply cut off the un-colonized portion.
If the pins get too big though, would it be too late to do a dunk and roll?
I have let pins grow in-vitro for almost a week after developing. They got to be decent sized (some 6cm+) in the jars, and I had no problem with the dunk and roll. You may get a few aborts, though.
Looks like everything is moving right along Keep it up!
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- Samuel Johnson
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I don't think it's just my verm layer left, but it's just a tiny bit left to colonize the substrate. But I think I will still wait to the weekend to birth just to be cautious if it's worked for other people. I just hope they don't get up to 6cm though
Quote: Mr. Anderson said: If u have a dry verm barrier it won't colonize. Ur jars look 100% to me.
This is not true, I had 3/4" of verm on top of all my pftek glasses and when I went to birth, the verm had been sucked down 1/2" and the mycellium was colonizing right thru it.
I even had some arial mycellium about 1/2" tall almost touching the foil lid. Looked pretty sick.
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