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 3rd bad trip. So...should I just stop taking shrooms??? 
#16469573 - 07/02/12 12:08 PM (10 months, 15 days ago) |
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So, It had been 3 weeks since the last time I'd tripped. I usually go for 5 grams and whenever I've tried less then 3.5, I feel like it was a waste; like it's just tickling me. My preferred trip is to watch a movie like Fantastic Mr. Fox or something, and just laugh my ass off. So, Saturday night, I wanted to dose, but it was just me and my GF, and she hates shrooms. The other 3 were on their way. So, they didn't get back til a little after 9. I had powdered up 20 grams for us around 6 and extracted in hot water and cooled it down and mixed with Kool-aid. Two guys felt 5 grams was too much and only drank about half of theirs. The 3rd guy did 5 with me, and then 10 minutes later, we took the rest of the unfinished shots, putting us probably over half an ounce.
We went outside to sit by a fire and put on some music, but nobody wanted the music too loud, so I was forced to turn it down to the point where I had trouble hearing it. When tripping, I don't usually like to talk, certainly not when the peak is coming up. So, I sat there, watching the fire for a spell. Occasionally, someone would talk, and if it was funny, I would giggle more then normal. After 30 minutes of this, I felt strongly that I wanted to watch a comedy, like Paul. The others agreed and I put out the fire and put on Paul. With the ads and menus, it took 15 minutes to get the movie going. The first half was amazing. Not so much for visuals, but I was laughing a lot and it felt like most of my trips. Unfortunately, it kept getting stronger. About halfway through the movie, I wasn't laughing. It felt like my mind exploded. Everyone said I should just lie down on the bed and listen to some music. Tried, but couldn't sit still.
Then, the bad feelings set in. What did I do to myself? I've just killed myself, haven't I? And the other guy that had as much as I did? He must be dying too. My GF came to bed around midnight after Paul was finished, but she couldn't get to sleep because I was not staying still, so she asked me to go sleep on the couch. I kept thinking that I was dying and someone needed to take me to the hospital. So, I asked my friends to keep me company and talk about what will happen to all my stuff after I die. They were still in a pleasant trip, and thought it was really funny. They said my bad trips outweigh my good trips and I should probably just never do shrooms again, which, during my bad trip, I heartily agreed. They asked if I have a batch growing, and I said no, which is convenient. They asked how much I have left, and I said quite a bit. I brought out 5 stuffed ziplock gallon bags, which they marveled at in wonder. One person made the observation that in the morning, I'll just want to trip again. Sure enough, I kinda want to keep on going.
Point is, this is my 3rd bad trip in 6 months or so. I trip sometimes every weekend, and the bad trips seem to be when I try to go beyond 5 grams. So, loved ones have said that I should just give this up, and I'm wondering if they have a point. It's not like I scream or take off my clothes and make an ass out of myself. It's not like I feel I'm dying, so why not just hurry the process up and commit suicide. I just have a fearful 2 hours that I cannot rationalize myself out of. What was the trigger this time? Nothing! I was watching Paul, and I think I laughed too hard, honestly. Things kept getting more and more intense, and then I just wanted to sit and act like I was fine so nobody would worry about me. That's a bitch to do when you're tripping balls.
So, do I trip again? I was thinking of taking time off, but for me, taking time off is 2 or 3 weeks. The idea of having a cupboard FULL of dried shrooms is too tempting not to delve into them. Saturday night, I was ready to give it all away. Sunday morning, all I could think was "I took too much; quit doing that!"
What do you guys think?
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 Re: 3rd bad trip. So...should I just stop taking shrooms??? [Re: Bluemookie]
#16469810 - 07/02/12 01:11 PM (10 months, 15 days ago) |
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take a long break. bad trips sometimes come from tripping too often. these drugs aren't like other drugs in that you're not guaranteed to feel good. you have to be in the right mindset and sometimes that's hard if you're tripping so frequently. also i've heard a few people say that 5 grams gives them anxiety but 7 grams will put them in the right spot. i'm not going to personally recommend it but it's something to consider.
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Re: 3rd bad trip. So...should I just stop taking shrooms??? [Re: JacksonMetaller]
#16469899 - 07/02/12 01:40 PM (10 months, 15 days ago) |
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So, what is a long break? 1 month? 2 months? Even longer? I mean, it's all relative, right? Since I'm growing tubs, I keep acquiring more, I feel like I should be eating more. I can't sell it because that would just make me feel like a dealer, aside from legality. Besides, I'm a dependable person, and in my experience, ALL dealers are undependable, so I can't possibly be a dealer.
I've tried going up as far as 10 grams without bad trips. And the bad trips always start with me being in a great state of mind, watching a blu-ray of somethign like Wall-E. I plan on taking 3 weeks off or so and then seeing what 3.5 does for me, but are you suggesting longer?
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Re: 3rd bad trip. So...should I just stop taking shrooms??? [Re: Bluemookie]
#16469917 - 07/02/12 01:45 PM (10 months, 15 days ago) |
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be the one dependable dealer! please 
but i don't know man, its really relative like you said. for some people a break is 2 weeks, for some its a couple years. i'd say at least give it a month or two and come back to it. basically just get all possible negative connections to the past experiences out of your head. i had a bad lucy trip that just led to more and more rough experiences with psychedelics afterwords.
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Re: 3rd bad trip. So...should I just stop taking shrooms??? [Re: JacksonMetaller]
#16469961 - 07/02/12 02:03 PM (10 months, 15 days ago) |
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After my 1st bad trip, I took a month off, I think. The trip after was kinda bad, but not as bad. I still think I killed people. The next trip after that was a breeze, and then on and so forth. I trip alone enough, but I don't think I ever have problems alone, because I never have the feeling of responsibility and that I caused someone to have a bad trip. That's what weighs on me the most. I'm pretty sure my next trip will have to be a solo one.
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Re: 3rd bad trip. So...should I just stop taking shrooms??? [Re: Bluemookie]
#16476342 - 07/03/12 07:38 PM (10 months, 13 days ago) |
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I think you might be confusing ego death with your own death. You've got a lot of experience - 5 grams dry is no beginner dose. Might also explain why you only experience it on higher doses. Fighting ego death in my opinion is what ultimately gives bad trips. Ego death is possible on any dose, with certain factors (again, in my opinion). As you go up in dose, those "certain factors" become less important and more vague. For example, tripper a can achieve ego death or the onset of ego death at which point he makes the decision to fight it or accept it on just 1.75 grams of shrooms if he is in a dark room, meditating, with music. On the others and, tripper b can experience ego death it larger group settings easily with higher doses, such as 5grAms, whereas 1.75 grams for this individual in a party setting would not allow him to achieve levels similar to tripper A.
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Re: 3rd bad trip. So...should I just stop taking shrooms??? [Re: Senortrippington]
#16476749 - 07/03/12 09:10 PM (10 months, 13 days ago) |
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I agree with the ego death thing. I've only ever tripped on my own but imagine i would get quite anxious around other people. I tripped tonight and all the plants and trees felt like equals to me in a more profound way than ive ever experienced before. Still coming down....
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Re: 3rd bad trip. So...should I just stop taking shrooms??? [Re: ToonJamiee]
#16485425 - 07/05/12 03:43 PM (10 months, 12 days ago) |
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I will say this...after the last trip on Saturday, I've been infinitely more focused. When practicing playing guitar, I'm much more accurate and in touch with what my fingers are doing. Right now, my biggest problems in tolerance. Since I trip at least twice a month, I stopped seeing visual hallucinations many months ago. I feel the only way to get back to that is to give my
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Re: 3rd bad trip. So...should I just stop taking shrooms??? [Re: Bluemookie]
#16485456 - 07/05/12 04:35 PM (10 months, 11 days ago) |
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Re: 3rd bad trip. So...should I just stop taking shrooms??? [Re: ToonJamiee]
#16489002 - 07/06/12 08:57 AM (10 months, 11 days ago) |
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The site shut down while I was posting. Sorry.
The only way I can see of getting back the visuals is to give my mind a break of 6 months or so, but I'm not sure it's worth it to me. I still laugh my ass off. To me, tripping on shrooms is like a workout for your brain, which is why you just can't do it every day like pot. You need to give your brain a chance to recover and build up, just like after a workout at the gym.
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Re: 3rd bad trip. So...should I just stop taking shrooms??? [Re: Bluemookie]
#16494324 - 07/07/12 11:26 AM (10 months, 10 days ago) |
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There was a post somewhere that claimed melatonin can potentiate visuals. The setting feels like a bummer to me, there was too much conflict between the tripping styles of that group. 
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Re: 3rd bad trip. So...should I just stop taking shrooms??? [Re: Hygrocybe]
#16503466 - 07/09/12 01:16 PM (10 months, 8 days ago) |
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Well, I tripped again Friday. My GF's brother texted me after I dosed and I could tell that he was subtly hinting that he wanted to trip. I'd had him over a couple times last year. Anyway, I told him to come on down; he lives an hour north of me. Well, I did my usual; that is, watch the Fantastic Mr. Fox on blu-ray. Always puts/keeps me in the greatest of trip moods. It was 5 grams powdered and soaked/extracted in water then mixed with kool-aid, same as the week before, but this time I kept it at 5 instead of going to 7 or 8. He arrived just as Fox was finishing up and my peak was leveling off. When I do tea or whatnot, my comeup happens within 10-15 minutes. When I eat the shrooms dry or fresh, it always takes at least an hour before I can even detect them, and even then, it makes my stomach uncomfortable, even though I fast 6 hours before every trip.
So, this trip was very pleasant, for both of us. He was blasting off on 3.5 as I was coming down. As soon as he arrived, I finished my movie, then powdered his shrooms and started soaking them. Then my son calls and asks if he can come over. I don't trust myself to drive while tripping, so I had my GF brother drive us over to pick him up. We came back, strained the shrooms and he drank his around 9:30 (I drank mine at 6:15), so when we started watching Fear And Loathing In Las Vegas, I was coming down and he was coming up.
Long story short, No visuals. No bad feelings. Still intend on taking a 2-3 month tolerance break so I can see shifting patterns again.
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