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 TheDeathryder
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Sample when you get 4 dry grams of those bad boys 
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MrBreakingBad
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So some of my cakes have already finished their first flush and are currently being dunked. I must say, I was expecting a larger flush. I have 7 cakes birthed, 1 not showing any pins, another looks like it has aborts (though, they still seem to be growing)  , and the other still have a few shroomies to go. But all and all, this is all I harvested from those 5 cakes 
I'm also a bit unsure as to when to harvest. I've been waiting till when the veil just tears, but this often only produces a shroom no bigger than my thumb. If I have neglected to pick them right away, they double in size overnight. Is it still better to pick them smaller?
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No feedback?
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TheDeathryder
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When the veil tears, they stop producing the psychoactive alkaloids. If you have a mushroom that weights 10 grams, and just dropped it's spore load, it will be about half as potent as a mushroom that weighs 5 grams, but has only just begun to tear it's veil (the difference between potency is how much weight was added to the mushroom after the veil tore).
Potency is just as much about what stage of growth the shrooms are harvested in as it is about weight.
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MrBreakingBad
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So I've been hearing. Makes sense. I just want bigger shrooms, but not without loss of alkaloids 
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TheDeathryder
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Bigger shrooms without loss of potency are created through nutritious substrates with proper lighting, misting, and fanning technique. And good genetics of course
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 VaeVictum
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IMO size isn't dictated by those things. Those are great ways to get great pin sets which is only going to give you more mushrooms that are smaller in size.
Mushroom size is more relevant to the depth of your substrate and the amount of pins that are on it. You could pick every pin off of a cake but one and that one will grow in size a substantial amount more than it would have. This is because the substrate is able to focus its energy into one fruit.
The moral of the story though is size doesn't really matter, what matters the most is yield and getting that large yield in the fewest amount of flushes possible.
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MrBreakingBad
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 Re: Breaking Bad... 's first grow  [Re: VaeVictum]
#16504057 - 07/09/12 03:38 PM (10 months, 9 days ago) |
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IMO size isn't dictated by those things. Those are great ways to get great pin sets which is only going to give you more mushrooms that are smaller in size.
Mushroom size is more relevant to the depth of your substrate and the amount of pins that are on it. You could pick every pin off of a cake but one and that one will grow in size a substantial amount more than it would have. This is because the substrate is able to focus its energy into one fruit.
The moral of the story though is size doesn't really matter, what matters the most is yield and getting that large yield in the fewest amount of flushes possible.
VV
A valid point. It's not about bigger, but more. This first run for me was to work out any hickups I might come across, but I think I'm following the tek well and am getting a good pin count (on most my cakes). I will either go to bigger cakes, or case for my next attempt.
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keep it up duder!!! looking nice. let us know how the potency is
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Re: Breaking Bad... 's first grow [Re: Salnugs]
#16504161 - 07/09/12 04:08 PM (10 months, 9 days ago) |
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good job man! 
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MrBreakingBad
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Thanks
Haven't tried them yet; I'm a little nervous to. It's been years since I have done them, and I have a low tolerance when it comes to meds/drugs. I've got to find the right place, time and people to do it with.
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MrBreakingBad
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So far 5 cakes of 11 have gone through their first flush and have given up aprox. (some are still drying) 20g dry weight. That averages to around 4g per cake. Not great, but not bad.
I still have 2 cakes producing fruits for their first flush (one of them producing what appears to be mutants. Pics to come), and another 4 cakes to birth still. It's amazing how much differing amounts of spores can change the growth rates.
I need to go to the boarder soon and pick up some everclear. I can't get alcohol over 70% where I am and I need as high a concentration as I can get for my extraction experiment. I'm also still waiting on my mayer's reagent (tests for the presence of alkaloids), so once I have those last two items I can begin testing.
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MrBreakingBad
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In 8 hrs (while I was at work) my mutant looking cake went from this: 
To this:
I was surprised to see some blackening on the tops of the heads, but after a quick wash it was gone.
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MrBreakingBad
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Mayer's reagent just arrived (very toxic material). I may have to perform tests with 70% alcohol until I am able to go to the boarder.
I'm anxious to start though. Should be rather interesting to see what method works best for extraction.
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Cool stuff man, congrats on your success so far!
I'm new around here as well, and it seems like we have semi-paralell first grows going on. Same strain, started about the same time, same number and size jars, same tek... well, once I got turned on to the SGFC at least. I got off to a bit of a slow start mainly due to lack of time. I'm probably a few days behind you with finishing up my first flush, so its kind of a glimpse into the future for me. 
Some of these guys might give you a hard time about your extraction, I noticed where a tek for doing it was actually removed from the reference part of the site because the whole idea was so looked down on.  But I think its really interesting and am looking forward to seeing what you can figure out. You've obviously got some chemistry/lab type experience, which I'd imagine should be a huge advantage to you with this hobby. Best of luck to you!
Edit: BTW Breaking Bad is a great show, really been looking forward to the new season.
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Re: Breaking Bad... 's first grow [Re: Mr. E]
#16519753 - 07/12/12 02:45 PM (10 months, 6 days ago) |
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deeeeeeyum very very nice results MrBB. read the entire thread, from spore to fruit this was a cool thread to read.
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MrBreakingBad
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Re: Breaking Bad... 's first grow [Re: Mr. E]
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Cool stuff man, congrats on your success so far!
I'm new around here as well, and it seems like we have semi-paralell first grows going on. Same strain, started about the same time, same number and size jars, same tek... well, once I got turned on to the SGFC at least. I got off to a bit of a slow start mainly due to lack of time. I'm probably a few days behind you with finishing up my first flush, so its kind of a glimpse into the future for me.
Some of these guys might give you a hard time about your extraction, I noticed where a tek for doing it was actually removed from the reference part of the site because the whole idea was so looked down on. But I think its really interesting and am looking forward to seeing what you can figure out. You've obviously got some chemistry/lab type experience, which I'd imagine should be a huge advantage to you with this hobby. Best of luck to you!
Edit: BTW Breaking Bad is a great show, really been looking forward to the new season.
Thanks. It's been coming along pretty well. I was expecting more fruits when I had first started, but really I have only birthed half my cakes so far. It's more of a steady stream of mushrooms rather than a bumper crop.
As for the extraction... well, I do understand how the mushroom enthusiasts would frown upon it as I am effectively removing all elements of mushroom. But extraction is the ultimate form of storage.
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Re: Breaking Bad... 's first grow [Re: fatchillin]
#16519802 - 07/12/12 02:59 PM (10 months, 6 days ago) |
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fatchillin said:
deeeeeeyum very very nice results MrBB. read the entire thread, from spore to fruit this was a cool thread to read.
Thank you, but the best is yet to come. Not sure when I'm going to have time, but I am eager to begin extraction experimentation.
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TheDeathryder
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Re: Breaking Bad... 's first grow [Re: Mr. E]
#16519851 - 07/12/12 03:07 PM (10 months, 6 days ago) |
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Mr. E said:
Some of these guys might give you a hard time about your extraction, I noticed where a tek for doing it was actually removed from the reference part of the site because the whole idea was so looked down on. But I think its really interesting and am looking forward to seeing what you can figure out. You've obviously got some chemistry/lab type experience, which I'd imagine should be a huge advantage to you with this hobby. Best of luck to you!
Edit: BTW Breaking Bad is a great show, really been looking forward to the new season.
No matter how much crap a small group of people give you, don't give up on an idea based on opinions. If the idea doesn't work out, just let it rest in peace, if it does work out though, enjoy serving the feast of crow Allow others to influence your decisions when they support your goals, leave them behind when they try to tear you down.
Now that the philosophy paragraph is out of the way, I'm looking forward to seeing the process and results of this experiment Take pictures of the whole process for me please
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