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one more thing for the plastic bag issue. Even if that was wrong what I did (putting it on outside rather than inside) I would have some colonization on the top and contamination on the bottom. While ther is no sign of mycelium growing anywhere..
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so u would rather have standing water on your substrate rather than under/not touching it...where u could tilt the whole tube like 5 degrees and poke one hole and the water drains into something? The bag wont contam anything if wiped down with 71% isopropyl.
Hey that looks like my last two tubs I did with poo.. had to toss em myself!
My problem was the substrate not wet enough.. mine had dried out to the point that it only grow in sporadic spots(I assume the spots with most moisture) and took way too long to colonize which allows the contams to compete.
Maybe you try one a little heavier on water?
I pastuerize in the oven is why I lost water, I had 6 trays come out perfect but then I got lazy on trays 7-8 or something and didn't seal up my turkey pan well enough I guess. Anyways, my two cents! Hope it might help!
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I just thought that the substrate would absorb the water if field capacity was right. Never before used plastic to do that (and never had trouble with water pooling) so I guess u're right about that.
No that white stuff is definitely not mycelium.
-------------------- "Well, like the Good Book says, 'Let he who is without sin throweth the first rock...and I shalt smoketh it!'"
I disagree.. the last pic of the circle spot of growth... looks like dry wispy mycelium to me.. to each his own...good luck!
EDIT: Although I am looking on a phone so maybe I can't see it well? But mine looked near that and it was for sure mycelium but the dryness stunted the growth on mine and let other things get a foothold..
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Quote: The bag wont contam anything if wiped down with 71% isopropyl.
Garbage bags come sterile, no need to wipe them down. I use the inside for the spawn/substrate to touch.
-------------------- Failure is not an option, it's an adventure! - JewelessCaesar
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i know in damion's tek it says to cover all the holes and put it in a garbage bag. seems like a no no to me. keep one hole covered with tyvek and that won't choke it's oxygen out. just a thought, i've nevered tried coir, i'm a bulk straw guy myself
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Bucket pasteurized coir is not as good as a properly pasteurized coir substrate, and certainly nowhere near as good as a properly pasteurized substrate containing coffee grounds, manure, compost, and gypsum.
I generally used appliances to pasteurize my subs. (Electric skillet, crockpot, "roasting oven"). You calibrate it by filling it with water and monitoring the water temperature with a thermometer. When you find a setting that holds the water at 140-170 F, mark it. Then replace the water with substrate. Leave it until the center of the substrate reads 140 on the thermometer, wait one hour, unplug, cool, spawn. Almost as easy as the bucket thing, and compatible with robust substrates.
I personally never understood why you would invest all of the time and effort to obtain colonized grain spawn, and then do a lazy version of one of the easier steps, resulting in decreased yield.
I either stick the poo/coir/bulk in a turkey bag or in a aluminum turkey pan covered with aluminum foil and stick that sucker in the oven on anything between 150 - 170 and let it go for two hours... no thermometers or fancy get up.. I then let cool and spawn.. I lean towards making things less complicated than they tend to be.
Can not post pics from my phone but they are in my gallery under Puerto Ricans, Oak Ridge and Burma album and all were done with this method...each flat is one half pint cake.
half pint-->turkey pan of hpoo for the small time grower this is one extra step and it lifts your yield to much higher output then the single cake, as you can see in those photos I got 2-3 flushes on all of those, I was happy for the yield turned out well over a quarter pound dry from 5 half pints spawned 10:1 hpoo in pans.
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to each his own...good luck!
