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 Great Steven Greer interview (Technology suppression, UFO's, etc.) 
#16439871 - 06/26/12 12:15 PM (10 months, 19 days ago) |
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I listened to this interview last night and it left me with that "holy shit" feel at the end. I don't care what people think about Steven Greer, I've been into this information for a while and I am fully aware that there's a lot of bad talk about him supposedly being Mossad and a disinfo agent, sleeper agent, etc.. Personally I don't believe all the bad talk, I have to go with my gut and I think Steven Greer is for real. Now if you've never heard of Steven Greer you best start off with his Disclosure Project press conference that took place in 2001.
I think the most interesting part of this interview is when he gets into the real current state of technology on Earth and how it's being kept from serving humanity, and how we haven't needed to burn oil for at least 50 years. Oil and other public forms of energy basically are just a means for a small group of people to control and dominate other countries, since all countries rely on oil to move goods, move armies, and keep the economy going, what better way to dominate a country than to control the energy resources (oil, coal)? Totally makes sense why "free energy" technology would be suppressed so viciously, because these people cannot control it. Here's the interview
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 Re: Great Steven Greer interview (Technology suppression, UFO's, etc.) [Re: LastBreath]
#16440046 - 06/26/12 12:55 PM (10 months, 19 days ago) |
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I'll listen to it. I haven't made my mind up about Greer, but I have seen some of the flak you mentioned along with accusations of him being a reptile.
I agree with him that we've been suppressed knowledge and technology.
I love the picture in your signature. Amanita muscaria took me to a place worth seeing.
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Re: Great Steven Greer interview (Technology suppression, UFO's, etc.) [Re: questioneverything]
#16440395 - 06/26/12 02:21 PM (10 months, 18 days ago) |
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questioneverything said:
I agree with him that we've been suppressed knowledge and technology.
Which knowledge and technology has been supressed?
How could that happen in a capitalist system? If there was technology out there that could solve problems, it would make a lot of money, and people would employ it.
The fact is that the technology that people claim has been suppressed doesn't work or isn't practical or cost effective.
Why would any self respecting American slave their ass off at a job when they could just watch youtube videos about suppressed technology and start a company that uses this technology to solve real world problems like the energy crisis?
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Re: Great Steven Greer interview (Technology suppression, UFO's, etc.) [Re: questioneverything]
#16441108 - 06/26/12 05:05 PM (10 months, 18 days ago) |
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I became aware of Steven Greer over a year ago, it took me a long time to make my mind up about him too.
By the way just a little side note I'd like to encourage any serious members that wish to discuss these things to completely ignore the trolls and doubt-raisers (you know who I'm talking about) who come to this forum and completely hi-jack threads with doubt raising and debunking, they seem to like to come in and immediately get the thread going on a 'attack & defend' type pattern and it's completely a waste of time arguing with them. If they don't believe any conspiracy theories it makes no sense why they would waste their time with something that doesn't interest them.
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Re: Great Steven Greer interview (Technology suppression, UFO's, etc.) [Re: LastBreath]  1
#16441204 - 06/26/12 05:30 PM (10 months, 18 days ago) |
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LastBreath said:
I became aware of Steven Greer over a year ago, it took me a long time to make my mind up about him too.
By the way just a little side note I'd like to encourage any serious members that wish to discuss these things to completely ignore the trolls and doubt-raisers (you know who I'm talking about) who come to this forum and completely hi-jack threads with doubt raising and debunking, they seem to like to come in and immediately get the thread going on a 'attack & defend' type pattern and it's completely a waste of time arguing with them. If they don't believe any conspiracy theories it makes no sense why they would waste their time with something that doesn't interest them.
so you dont care to answer any questions unless they are supportive of your topic?
refrain from calling people trolls just because you dont like their answers
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Re: Great Steven Greer interview (Technology suppression, UFO's, etc.) [Re: Prisoner#1]
#16441378 - 06/26/12 06:10 PM (10 months, 18 days ago) |
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When I first came here I was under the impression this forum was a place to DISCUSS conspiracy theories, but as I read on I'm getting a new impression that this is a forum to debate and get in arguments about theories, this seems to be exactly the case.
This forum isn't a place to discuss anything, this is where people looking to sincerely talk about things make threads, and then immediately get derailed by people like you who do nothing but raise doubt and incite debate wars and arguments while not contributing anything at all. This section should more accurately be renamed to "Conspiracy Debates" or something.
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Re: Great Steven Greer interview (Technology suppression, UFO's, etc.) [Re: LastBreath]
#16441517 - 06/26/12 06:41 PM (10 months, 18 days ago) |
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Best not to feed the trolls.
I think, the way time and space works, that sometimes people can get things that are way ahead of their time.
I've been telling people about photorepair, epigenetics and Jesus saying we were beings of light. Well, he was right. Light as well as chemicals trigger dna code to activate or deactivate, and this light travels from one cell to another.
I do know that at the very least, Boeing were researching electro-gravatics back in the 1950's. I also believe that the gods of old as well as the stories of magical beings that flit in and out of perception are true, and those mythical creatures didn't go away, they just stay at the edges of our perception.
DMT elves is one phenominon I find fascinating. It's one thing to say you see squiggly geometric patterns when tripping, but reptillian crystal aliens? Quite another.
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Re: Great Steven Greer interview (Technology suppression, UFO's, etc.) [Re: Visionary Tools]
#16441563 - 06/26/12 06:52 PM (10 months, 18 days ago) |
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you ever catch crabs in a bucket? Ever watch them try to grab a crap and drag them down if they try to crawl up?
I feel we do that to one another. We don't really help one another. Well, not all the time.
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Re: Great Steven Greer interview (Technology suppression, UFO's, etc.) [Re: LastBreath]
#16443929 - 06/27/12 05:29 AM (10 months, 18 days ago) |
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When I first came here I was under the impression this forum was a place to DISCUSS conspiracy theories, but as I read on I'm getting a new impression that this is a forum to debate and get in arguments about theories, this seems to be exactly the case.
This forum isn't a place to discuss anything, this is where people looking to sincerely talk about things make threads, and then immediately get derailed by people like you who do nothing but raise doubt and incite debate wars and arguments while not contributing anything at all. This section should more accurately be renamed to "Conspiracy Debates" or something.
It is the fear of dismissal and ridicule that keeps most people silent on conspiracy topics. Whether it's UFOs, 9/11 false flag, gulf of tonkin, jfk, moon landings or whatever. There is a penalty to be felt for publicly advocating positions or questioning the official government record of events. We even see it here which is fine. We don't need to be silent. We are anonymous online and so are more free to search for the real truth. "The truth is out there." - X-Files
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Re: Great Steven Greer interview (Technology suppression, UFO's, etc.) [Re: LastBreath]
#16444220 - 06/27/12 09:33 AM (10 months, 18 days ago) |
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Swami wrote this in PSP a number of years ago:
Dr. (doctor? - Bwah ha ha!) Stephen Greer (mentioned in the Disclosure Project) was in Pahrump, NV (50 miles from Vegas) about 6 years ago with a gaggle of UFO nuts with a bullhorn, flashlights and a laser to signal and guide the mothership in. There were some 40 -50 participants.
Naturally, no Mothership showed. Hard to take this guy seriously.
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Re: Great Steven Greer interview (Technology suppression, UFO's, etc.) [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
#16444308 - 06/27/12 10:18 AM (10 months, 18 days ago) |
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So you are prejudiced against him based on what you read about him and a bullhorn? Have you listened to the disclosure project interviews?
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Re: Great Steven Greer interview (Technology suppression, UFO's, etc.) [Re: Visionary Tools]
#16444570 - 06/27/12 12:05 PM (10 months, 18 days ago) |
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Visionary Tools said:
I've been telling people about photorepair, epigenetics and Jesus saying we were beings of light. Well, he was right. Light as well as chemicals trigger dna code to activate or deactivate, and this light travels from one cell to another.
Is this bullshit, or do you have a source for this?
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DMT elves is one phenominon I find fascinating. It's one thing to say you see squiggly geometric patterns when tripping, but reptillian crystal aliens? Quite another.
I have seen the DMT elves.
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Re: Great Steven Greer interview (Technology suppression, UFO's, etc.) [Re: LastBreath]
#16445164 - 06/27/12 02:39 PM (10 months, 17 days ago) |
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LastBreath said:
When I first came here I was under the impression this forum was a place to DISCUSS conspiracy theories, but as I read on I'm getting a new impression that this is a forum to debate and get in arguments about theories, this seems to be exactly the case.
This forum isn't a place to discuss anything, this is where people looking to sincerely talk about things make threads, and then immediately get derailed by people like you who do nothing but raise doubt and incite debate wars and arguments while not contributing anything at all. This section should more accurately be renamed to "Conspiracy Debates" or something.
The point of a theory is to test it for accuracy...That doesn't happen with a bunch of people posting "yeah man...i agree"...That happens with people fact-checking your statements...Analyzing your logic...
If you don't want your theories tested, you should probably keep them to yourself...most people aren't prone to just believing everything they hear without a little bit of evidence to back it up.
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Re: Great Steven Greer interview (Technology suppression, UFO's, etc.) [Re: LastBreath]
#16445239 - 06/27/12 02:55 PM (10 months, 17 days ago) |
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I finished the interview this morning, and I'm keeping it on my mind all day, but I just wanted to make sure no one answers these guys. It's the same old game. There's really no convincing someone of something this wild. They will have to learn from their own experiences. (in the meantime, take a brief timeout to lol at orgone leaving his perch in philosophy to come mingle with us lesser beings in conspiracies and coverups).
Can you smell the desperation to squash these threads?
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Re: Great Steven Greer interview (Technology suppression, UFO's, etc.) [Re: questioneverything]
#16445241 - 06/27/12 02:56 PM (10 months, 17 days ago) |
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^"there are no aliens.
Everything is just normal."
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Re: Great Steven Greer interview (Technology suppression, UFO's, etc.) [Re: questioneverything]
#16445318 - 06/27/12 03:12 PM (10 months, 17 days ago) |
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I listened to the interview last night. I liked it, but I wished it was longer. Good find.
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Re: Great Steven Greer interview (Technology suppression, UFO's, etc.) [Re: Alan Rockefeller] 2
#16445631 - 06/27/12 04:16 PM (10 months, 17 days ago) |
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questioneverything said:
I agree with him that we've been suppressed knowledge and technology.
Which knowledge and technology has been supressed?
How could that happen in a capitalist system? If there was technology out there that could solve problems, it would make a lot of money, and people would employ it.
The fact is that the technology that people claim has been suppressed doesn't work or isn't practical or cost effective.
Why would any self respecting American slave their ass off at a job when they could just watch youtube videos about suppressed technology and start a company that uses this technology to solve real world problems like the energy crisis?
No the problem is that big oil and big business brutally suppresses technological advancements....Tesla? How about Stanley Meyers HHO technology?
such a joke lol. disinfo like a mofo...
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Re: Great Steven Greer interview (Technology suppression, UFO's, etc.) [Re: Saint Marcus]
#16445658 - 06/27/12 04:22 PM (10 months, 17 days ago) |
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No the problem is that big oil and big business brutally suppresses technological advancements....
That is a common rumor but it isn't true.
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Tesla?
Every US citizen uses Tesla's inventions every day.
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How about Stanley Meyers HHO technology?
It doesn't work.
From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanley_Meyer's_water_fuel_cell
"The water fuel cell is a purported free energy device invented by American Stanley Allen Meyer (August 24, 1940 – March 21, 1998). He claimed that an automobile retrofitted with the device could use water as fuel instead of gasoline. The fuel cell purportedly split water into its component elements, hydrogen and oxygen. The hydrogen was then burned to generate energy, a process that reconstituted the water molecules. According to Meyer, the device required less energy to perform electrolysis than the minimum energy requirement predicted or measured by conventional science.[1] If the device worked as specified, it would violate both the first and second laws of thermodynamics,[1][2] allowing operation as a perpetual motion machine.[2] Meyer's claims about his "Water Fuel Cell" and the car that it powered were found to be fraudulent by an Ohio court in 1996.[1][3]"
"Lawsuit
In 1996, Meyer was sued by two investors to whom he had sold dealerships, offering the right to do business in Water Fuel Cell technology. His car was due to be examined by the expert witness Michael Laughton, Professor of Electrical Engineering at Queen Mary, University of London and Fellow of the Royal Academy of Engineering. However, Meyer made what Professor Laughton considered a "lame excuse" on the days of examination and did not allow the test to proceed.[3] According to Meyer the technology was patent pending and under investigation by the patent office, the Department of Energy and the military.[14] His "water fuel cell" was later examined by three expert witnesses in court who found that there "was nothing revolutionary about the cell at all and that it was simply using conventional electrolysis". The court found Meyer guilty of "gross and egregious fraud" and ordered him to repay the two investors their $25,000.[3]"
Source 1: Narciso, Dean (July 8, 2007). "The Car that Ran on Water". The Columbus Dispatch. Retrieved 2008-03-24.
Source 2: Ball, Philip (September 14, 2007). "Burning water and other myths". Nature News. DOI:10.1038/news070910-13. Retrieved 2008-12-08. "You start with water, you break it apart into its constituent elements (hydrogen and oxygen), and then you recombine them by burning. ... Extracting net energy from this total cycle is impossible, if you believe in the first and second laws of thermodynamics. Otherwise, you have the basis of a perpetual-motion machine."
Source 3: Edwards, Tony (1996-12-01). "End of road for car that ran on Water". The Sunday Times (Times Newspapers Limited): p. Features 12.
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Re: Great Steven Greer interview (Technology suppression, UFO's, etc.) [Re: questioneverything]
#16445674 - 06/27/12 04:25 PM (10 months, 17 days ago) |
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i shouldn't have even bought into the trolling by Alan....U all r right. There is absolutely no point to confront peeps like Rockefeller, Pris, Johnm and the other mods/disinfo agents....
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Can you smell the desperation to squash these threads?
yes, yes i can.
I should have never bought into the trolling  I know better than that...
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Re: Great Steven Greer interview (Technology suppression, UFO's, etc.) [Re: Rail_Gun]
#16445676 - 06/27/12 04:26 PM (10 months, 17 days ago) |
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So you are prejudiced against him based on what you read about him and a bullhorn? Have you listened to the disclosure project interviews?
Calling aliens out of the sky with a flashlight is a very strong sign of delusion at best or serious mental illness at worst. His followers exhibit the same symptoms and need medical help.
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