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 Re: 9/11 was a hoax and a false flag operation  [Re: Society]
#16444735 - 06/27/12 12:55 PM (10 months, 18 days ago) |
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It's been almost 11 years and I have always believed that 9/11 was an inside job, along with many assasinations, natural disasters (H.A.A.R.P.), and the list goes on. Call me crazy, I could care less. I have done tons of research and I believe what I believe, the burden of convincing others is not on me. I honestly don't believe that those who actually think that 2 airliners did all that damage, have done all their research. The truth is, when it comes to a person realizing that life as they know it may all be smoke and mirrors, they stop searching for the truth because their minds simply can't comprehend it or they just don't want to face it. I mean come on, some people just want to live with a secure mind, lies or not. Some of my own family are sheepish. They believe the TV and the newspaper give them factual data and it troubles me that so many people just can't fathom the thought that our government is full of shit. You may ask where is my proof. Again, seek out the TRUTH and you will find it. Me telling you why I believe what I believe will not convince you because you are conditioned. Only when one seeks the truth on their own will they be "awakened". It's a tough subject because so many people will not face the fact that their world (i.e. politics, religion, government, etc...) is, was, and always will be a lie. I hope that it will change but who knows ? We just have to find our place in it, attempt to live in harmony, and leave a positive footprint when we go. In no way am I attacking or generalising a group of people. I am just stating my position. I just don't think one man speaking to a group is the way to convince people of the truth, individuals have to have a strong desire to want to know the complete truth and not just what's comfortable for them. No matter what I say, someone will demand more. To them I say, if you want more just get off your ass and seek it out.
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Re: 9/11 was a hoax and a false flag operation [Re: fungi_funguy]
#16444810 - 06/27/12 01:10 PM (10 months, 18 days ago) |
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fungi_funguy said:
It's been almost 11 years and I have always believed that 9/11 was an inside job, along with many assasinations, natural disasters (H.A.A.R.P.), and the list goes on. Call me crazy, I could care less. I have done tons of research and I believe what I believe, the burden of convincing others is not on me.
That's the problem with you truthers - you believe what you want to believe, even if the evidence doesn't support it.
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I honestly don't believe that those who actually think that 2 airliners did all that damage, have done all their research.
Even if explosives were used to take the buildings down, that doesn't indicate that the government did it.
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The truth is, when it comes to a person realizing that life as they know it may all be smoke and mirrors, they stop searching for the truth because their minds simply can't comprehend it or they just don't want to face it. I mean come on, some people just want to live with a secure mind, lies or not. Some of my own family are sheepish. They believe the TV and the newspaper give them factual data and it troubles me that so many people just can't fathom the thought that our government is full of shit.
Life is not smoke and mirrors. Most things in the newspaper are factual. Not all, I see how the stories get twisted.
However if you were to carefully fact-check everything in today's edition of the New York Times, for example, you would probably find out that around 98% of it is true.
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You may ask where is my proof. Again, seek out the TRUTH and you will find it.
You are saying you have no proof and your beliefs are based on faith alone?
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Only when one seeks the truth on their own will they be "awakened".
I did seek the truth on my own, and awakended to the fact that 9/11 was not an inside job.
Before I did research, I was a sheep that believed everything the truther documentaries told me. I was a sheep for 10 years, from 2001 until 2011.
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It's a tough subject because so many people will not face the fact that their world (i.e. politics, religion, government, etc...) is, was, and always will be a lie.
That depends on your definition of lie. The government isn't usually trying to deceive you, they are just very incompetent.
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To them I say, if you want more just get off your ass and seek it out.
By "get off your ass and seek it out" do you mean "watch some youtube documentaries?"
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educated ppl still think 9/11 was what the official story proposed? Lol!
"An astounding video uncovered from the archives shows the BBC reporting on the collapse of WTC Building 7 over twenty minutes before it fell at 5:20pm on the afternoon of 9/11. The incredible footage shows BBC reporter Jane Standley talking about the collapse of the Salomon Brothers Building while it remains standing in the live shot behind her head.
This amazing clip below was on Google Video and was removed within hours of the story breaking. However, hundreds of people had already managed to download the clip and it has gone viral on the Internet.
To be clear, the Salomon Brothers Building is just a different name for Building 7 or WTC 7. Skip forward to around the 14:30 minute mark.
Although there is no clock or time stamp on the footage, the source claims the report was given at 4:57pm EST, 23 minutes before Building 7 collapsed at 5:20pm. While the exact time of the report cannot be confirmed at present, it is clear from the footage that the reporter is describing the collapse of WTC 7 while it clearly remains standing behind her in the live shot.
Minutes before the actual collapse of the building is due, the feed to the reporter mysteriously dies.
The fact that the BBC reported on the collapse of Building 7 over twenty minutes in advance of its implosion obviously provokes a myriad of questions as to how they knew it was about to come down when the official story says its collapse happened accidentally as a result of fire damage and debris weakening the building's structure.
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Life is not smoke and mirrors. Most things in the newspaper are factual. Not all, I see how the stories get twisted.
However if you were to carefully fact-check everything in today's edition of the New York Times, for example, you would probably find out that around 98% of it is true.
LMAO! ya factually TWISTED. thats a joke bro. Thanks for the laugh! 
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Re: 9/11 was a hoax and a false flag operation [Re: Saint Marcus]
#16444940 - 06/27/12 01:39 PM (10 months, 18 days ago) |
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So you are saying that this reporter must be in on the 9/11 conspiracy too?
It doesn't seem likely to me that terrorists would recruit reporters to say that the building came down when it was still standing.
If the reporter did know about WTC 7 coming down before it did, what would that mean with regards to 9/11 being an inside job, or not?
Is it more likely the reporter was wrong/misspoke, or is there something else that is more likely?
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Re: 9/11 was a hoax and a false flag operation [Re: fungi_funguy]
#16444948 - 06/27/12 01:41 PM (10 months, 18 days ago) |
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It's been almost 11 years and I have always believed that 9/11 was an inside job, along with many assasinations, natural disasters (H.A.A.R.P.), and the list goes on. Call me crazy, I could care less. I have done tons of research and I believe what I believe, the burden of convincing others is not on me. I honestly don't believe that those who actually think that 2 airliners did all that damage, have done all their research. The truth is, when it comes to a person realizing that life as they know it may all be smoke and mirrors, they stop searching for the truth because their minds simply can't comprehend it or they just don't want to face it. I mean come on, some people just want to live with a secure mind, lies or not. Some of my own family are sheepish. They believe the TV and the newspaper give them factual data and it troubles me that so many people just can't fathom the thought that our government is full of shit. You may ask where is my proof. Again, seek out the TRUTH and you will find it. Me telling you why I believe what I believe will not convince you because you are conditioned. Only when one seeks the truth on their own will they be "awakened". It's a tough subject because so many people will not face the fact that their world (i.e. politics, religion, government, etc...) is, was, and always will be a lie. I hope that it will change but who knows ? We just have to find our place in it, attempt to live in harmony, and leave a positive footprint when we go. In no way am I attacking or generalising a group of people. I am just stating my position. I just don't think one man speaking to a group is the way to convince people of the truth, individuals have to have a strong desire to want to know the complete truth and not just what's comfortable for them. No matter what I say, someone will demand more. To them I say, if you want more just get off your ass and seek it out.
 WOW! u just hit the nail on the head
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So you are saying that this reporter must be in on the 9/11 conspiracy too?
It doesn't seem likely to me that terrorists would recruit reporters to say that the building came down when it was still standing.
If the reporter did know about WTC 7 coming down before it did, what would that mean with regards to 9/11 being an inside job, or not?
Is it more likely the reporter was wrong/misspoke, or is there something else that is more likely?
LMAO!!! u r soooo FULL OF IT HAHAHA 
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WOW !! So typical. Btw, when I watch youtube it's for laughs, not for education. Think from now on i'll keep it shroomery on here. Why in the hell did I enter a conspiracy forum on a website about mushrooms ???? Silly me.
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Re: 9/11 was a hoax and a false flag operation [Re: Saint Marcus] 2
#16444970 - 06/27/12 01:47 PM (10 months, 18 days ago) |
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Saint Marcus said:
LMAO!!! u r soooo FULL OF IT HAHAHA
You have no answer for my questions so you resort to ad-hominem?
You aren't doing a very good job of convincing me that 9/11 was an inside job.
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Re: 9/11 was a hoax and a false flag operation [Re: fungi_funguy]
#16445000 - 06/27/12 01:55 PM (10 months, 18 days ago) |
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Terrorists ? Really ? WTF are terrorist ? People who stand up for what they believe in are terrorists now ? There were no terrorists ? Some people will believe anything just because it was on the news a million times. Trust me, if the government decides to convince you that new york is a southern state (random), they will and after they are done, you will believe it. Alan Rockefeller, i'm calling you out man. You act just like a sheep.
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LMAO!!! u r soooo FULL OF IT HAHAHA
You have no answer for my questions so you resort to ad-hominem?
You aren't doing a very good job of convincing me that 9/11 was an inside job.
I don't care about convincing u  !
I am not trying to convince u.
Ur mind is already made up and the question is to what end and for what purpose...I think it is one of mal intent, justified and rationalized in some warped and twisted way just like the malicious controlers of the material world. Guiding civilization by greed to a dead end of ultimate chaos, pain, and calamity.
U noe ur full of it. Ur just trying to keep up playing this game for the aesthetic value of the individuals that believe that shallow malarky. N it ain't me that is going to buy that bullshit bud. 
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Re: 9/11 was a hoax and a false flag operation [Re: fungi_funguy]
#16445032 - 06/27/12 02:06 PM (10 months, 18 days ago) |
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Terrorists ? Really ? WTF are terrorist ?
Terrorists are people who terrify other people.
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People who stand up for what they believe in are terrorists now ?
No, unless standing up for what they believe in involves killing lots of innocent people.
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There were no terrorists ?
There were, and always will be terrorists. It is a social phenomenon that is not going away.
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Some people will believe anything just because it was on the news a million times.
I am not one of those people.
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Trust me, if the government decides to convince you that new york is a southern state (random), they will and after they are done, you will believe it.
No. I am very skeptical.
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Alan Rockefeller, i'm calling you out man. You act just like a sheep.
How so? Can you elaborate on that?
Am I a sheep because I don't agree with you? Because I think for myself rather than blindly believing things in sketchy documentaries?
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Re: 9/11 was a hoax and a false flag operation [Re: Saint Marcus]
#16445051 - 06/27/12 02:12 PM (10 months, 18 days ago) |
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educated ppl still think 9/11 was what the official story proposed? Lol!
"An astounding video uncovered from the archives shows the BBC reporting on the collapse of WTC Building 7 over twenty minutes before it fell at 5:20pm on the afternoon of 9/11. The incredible footage shows BBC reporter Jane Standley talking about the collapse of the Salomon Brothers Building while it remains standing in the live shot behind her head.
they knew several hours before the building collapsed that it was going to
collapse, that's why they pulled the fire fighters from the building at
around 1pm and kept moving people away, in fact they increased the safety
area 2 or 3 times and this information was relayed from the ground to news
centers and then copy writers write the shit that's displayed on the
teleprompter that the reporter then reads. it's not the only time that bad
information was aired that day, in fact dozens of reporters made retractions
on things they'd stated on air that turned out to be false
why would they inform a news crews of something that was supposed to be planned as a conspiracy? why would they include all the emergency personnel in order to evacuate building when the goal would be to cause as much death as possible for the huge out cry for vengeance, afterall, there's no difference between 3000 and 6000 when you have a conspiracy of this scale.
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This amazing clip below was on Google Video and was removed within hours of the story breaking.
complete bullshit, the entire broadcast day for all the news networks
including that one are online, always have been. just because people claim
that google removed it doesnt mean it's true
http://archive.org/details/sept_11_tv_archive
the article would have us believe that alex jones and paul watson actually did some work and uncovered something
I just dont understand why people dont want to provide their source for bad information
http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Evils%20in%20Government/911%20Cover-up/wtc7-bbc_lies.htm
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Re: 9/11 was a hoax and a false flag operation [Re: fungi_funguy]
#16445055 - 06/27/12 02:14 PM (10 months, 18 days ago) |
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Saint Marcus said:
educated ppl still think 9/11 was what the official story proposed? Lol!
"An astounding video uncovered from the archives shows the BBC reporting on the collapse of WTC Building 7 over twenty minutes before it fell at 5:20pm on the afternoon of 9/11. The incredible footage shows BBC reporter Jane Standley talking about the collapse of the Salomon Brothers Building while it remains standing in the live shot behind her head.
This amazing clip below was on Google Video and was removed within hours of the story breaking. However, hundreds of people had already managed to download the clip and it has gone viral on the Internet.
To be clear, the Salomon Brothers Building is just a different name for Building 7 or WTC 7. Skip forward to around the 14:30 minute mark.
Although there is no clock or time stamp on the footage, the source claims the report was given at 4:57pm EST, 23 minutes before Building 7 collapsed at 5:20pm. While the exact time of the report cannot be confirmed at present, it is clear from the footage that the reporter is describing the collapse of WTC 7 while it clearly remains standing behind her in the live shot.
Minutes before the actual collapse of the building is due, the feed to the reporter mysteriously dies.
The fact that the BBC reported on the collapse of Building 7 over twenty minutes in advance of its implosion obviously provokes a myriad of questions as to how they knew it was about to come down when the official story says its collapse happened accidentally as a result of fire damage and debris weakening the building's structure.
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Geez, I guess that proves it, everything must have been planned and they left a script for the BBC because hey, when you're blowing up 3 buildings you have to put in the extra effort to make sure that gets on the news.
The NY fire department had known that the building was going to collapse and had evacuated everyone near WTC 7 30 minutes before its collapse. It doesn't take much for a news organization to make the leap from "Fire Department says building is going to collapse soon" to "Fire Department says building has collapsed." I mean, come on, I remember the news saying that things like the White House had been hit and that the PLO claimed responsibility.
Go to around 0:37 on the clip. "Details are very, very sketchy." Does any of this sound like a news organization that knows exactly what's going on?
Edit: oops, pris beat me to it
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Re: 9/11 was a hoax and a false flag operation [Re: sonamdrukpa]
#16445067 - 06/27/12 02:17 PM (10 months, 18 days ago) |
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I was thinking about something. How many incidents or plane crashes has a terrorist organization jumped up and taken credit for that later were found to be from another reason?
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Re: 9/11 was a hoax and a false flag operation [Re: sonamdrukpa]
#16445084 - 06/27/12 02:20 PM (10 months, 18 days ago) |
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sonamdrukpa said:
Edit: oops, pris beat me to it
reinforcement never hurts
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there are 923 words in the english language that do not follow the "I before E"
rule, there are 44 words in the english language that follow the rule. this is
the shit our education funding is paying for and these liberals want more money
for education to keep making students stupid
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Re: 9/11 was a hoax and a false flag operation [Re: cacharstar]
#16445095 - 06/27/12 02:24 PM (10 months, 18 days ago) |
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cacharstar said:
I was thinking about something. How many incidents or plane crashes has a terrorist organization jumped up and taken credit for that later were found to be from another reason?
I wouldnt have a clue, maybe you should run that down for us
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there are 923 words in the english language that do not follow the "I before E"
rule, there are 44 words in the english language that follow the rule. this is
the shit our education funding is paying for and these liberals want more money
for education to keep making students stupid
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Re: 9/11 was a hoax and a false flag operation [Re: Rail_Gun]
#16446564 - 06/27/12 07:39 PM (10 months, 18 days ago) |
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Edited by SMP (06/27/12 07:47 PM)
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Re: 9/11 was a hoax and a false flag operation [Re: Rail_Gun]
#16446582 - 06/27/12 07:43 PM (10 months, 18 days ago) |
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I don't think 9/11 was a hoax. I think they really flew some planes into those buildings.
Let's talk about the real issues here, like Bin Laden's assassination being some bullshit.
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Re: 9/11 was a hoax and a false flag operation [Re: MaxFresh]
#16446638 - 06/27/12 07:56 PM (10 months, 18 days ago) |
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Do you have any evidence to support your theory that the assassination was bovine feces?
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