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 Saint Marcus
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moonrockmushy said:
I don't think the best shaman is gonna be able to diagnose and treat cancer with the same level of success as a good doctor. I think it is a mistake to imply otherwise.
I think u should look up how effective radiation therapy (chemo) is lol!
Then while ur at it, if ur interested in learning about far more effective treatments look into Gerson therapy (that would b a good conspiracy topic for this forum), burzinksky neoplaston treatment, Alkaline vs acidity and its effects on cancer and role it plays, sugar and cancer relationship, and cancer being a fungus....
I know ther r a couple others i missed but those will get the ppl who r interested in learning of the cures for cancer in the right direction....It sure as FUCK isn't blasting the body with radiation n hoping for the best lol I think the placebo effect and a positive outlook would have the same efficacy
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 Doc_T
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Registered: 03/06/09
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Loc: Colorado 
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Saint Marcus said:
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moonrockmushy said:
I don't think the best shaman is gonna be able to diagnose and treat cancer with the same level of success as a good doctor. I think it is a mistake to imply otherwise.
I think u should look up how effective radiation therapy (chemo) is lol!
You know that's two different things. Right?
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Prisoner#1
Even Dumber ThanAdvertized!
Registered: 01/22/03
Posts: 168,669
Loc: Pvt. Pubfag NutSuck
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Saint Marcus said:
Then while ur at it, if ur interested in learning about far more effective treatments look into Gerson therapy (that would b a good conspiracy topic for this forum), burzinksky neoplaston treatment, Alkaline vs acidity and its effects on cancer and role it plays, sugar and cancer relationship, and cancer being a fungus....
quackery doesnt cure cancer, may as well use tobacco and use it to locate the
bad vibes that are giving people cancer and use it to suck it out of the body
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there are 923 words in the english language that do not follow the "I before E"
rule, there are 44 words in the english language that follow the rule. this is
the shit our education funding is paying for and these liberals want more money
for education to keep making students stupid
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treesniper119
No one of Consequence
Registered: 08/12/08
Posts: 1,103
Loc: Underground
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 Re: Fucking Crop Circles  [Re: Prisoner#1]
#16468822 - 07/02/12 04:56 AM (11 months, 11 days ago) |
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Prisoner#1 said:
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Saint Marcus said:
Then while ur at it, if ur interested in learning about far more effective treatments look into Gerson therapy (that would b a good conspiracy topic for this forum), burzinksky neoplaston treatment, Alkaline vs acidity and its effects on cancer and role it plays, sugar and cancer relationship, and cancer being a fungus....
quackery doesnt cure cancer, may as well use tobacco and use it to locate the
bad vibes that are giving people cancer and use it to suck it out of the body
what the hell do you know about anything really prisoner #1?
your just a lost boy in this ever expanding universe with limited knowledge and a superiority complex... you believe you have a firm grasp on what you perceive as reality, which in truth is an illusion.
You downplay the ability for someone to heal someone else by entering into an aya ceremony, singing to them (icaros/spirit songs) & curing their illnesses just because you simply cannot wrap your tiny brain around anything other then what you already think you know. You & by product of design, your parents, have created within you a flawed system of judgement/discernment that will never allow you to grow up properly.
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DieCommie
El Guapo
Registered: 12/11/03
Posts: 25,374
Loc: Street of Dreams
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Nah, he probably just doesnt believe in fairy tales. Your post here is a bunch of irrelevant butthurtz.
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you simply cannot wrap your tiny brain around anything other then what you already think you know
Irony!
Edited by DieCommie (07/02/12 05:04 AM)
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Prisoner#1
Even Dumber ThanAdvertized!
Registered: 01/22/03
Posts: 168,669
Loc: Pvt. Pubfag NutSuck
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treesniper119 said:
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Prisoner#1 said:
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Saint Marcus said:
Then while ur at it, if ur interested in learning about far more effective treatments look into Gerson therapy (that would b a good conspiracy topic for this forum), burzinksky neoplaston treatment, Alkaline vs acidity and its effects on cancer and role it plays, sugar and cancer relationship, and cancer being a fungus....
quackery doesnt cure cancer, may as well use tobacco and use it to locate the
bad vibes that are giving people cancer and use it to suck it out of the body
what the hell do you know about anything really prisoner #1?
I know you havent posted a video of anyone puking up snakes and demons and
yellow fever on ayahuasca even though there's hundreds of videos and even a
few documentaries on these rituals
I know you havent posted a study done by harvard scholars about the efficacy
of voodoo, faith healing, shamanisim, song or or other magical abilities
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You downplay the ability for someone to heal someone else by entering into an aya ceremony, singing to them (icaros/spirit songs) & curing their illnesses just because you simply cannot wrap your tiny brain around anything other then what you already think you know. You & by product of design, your parents, have created within you a flawed system of judgement/discernment that will never allow you to grow up properly.
I'm simply asking for something you cant provide, proof of your claims
you've already received one warning, why do you want to push it further
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there are 923 words in the english language that do not follow the "I before E"
rule, there are 44 words in the english language that follow the rule. this is
the shit our education funding is paying for and these liberals want more money
for education to keep making students stupid
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Enlil
LIL-9000
Registered: 08/16/03
Posts: 11,849
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Sniper, the "rabbit hole" of which I spoke was a reference to "Alice in Wonderland." I used that reference because it is becoming increasingly clear that you have created your own wonderland of sorts.
You've created a reality wherein evil corporate/government entities conspire to suppress anything that might help mankind improve it's situation. This reality includes evil spirits that cause disease and magical healers that can heal them. It also includes ancient cultures that were somehow many years ahead of current technology despite having lifespans well under half of what we have today.
This wonderland you've constructed for yourself must be a very comfortable place for you, because you disregard huge chunks of information that are right in front of your eyes. People in this thread are trying to help you break through your illusions. If you think this is flaming you, then I submit that it is only because you're very fond of the world you've created and very resistant to anything that might undercut it's existence.
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Fuck the Amish
Ellis Dee said, "And those kids in CT deserved to die and I'm glad they're dead. I am glad that the survivors will have to "live with it" too. hahaha"
Listerine said, "i want genocide for most of africa"
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Free.Your.Mind
WiNdMiLLz aNd SuNFLoWeRZ
Registered: 12/23/08
Posts: 1,286
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treesniper119 said:
ok, so when shamans/healers identify with negative/positive entities, they find them (the negative forces) in the human bodies with ayahuasca, and you purge them out, while purging, your spew sometimes manifest/materialize into blueish blackish other dimensional (ectoplasam), roaches, snakes, spiders... crawling on the ground, or in your purge bucket, my friend who is also has been trained as a shaman purged a 30 ft tape worm out of his body... your not hallucinating,
the sitters who are sober and the rest of the group participants see all of this as well....its either a mass placebo/hallucination or....its time to start opening your eyes to everything else...
when i used to trip diphenhydramine i saw spiders every fucking where
my cat even paws the shit outta em when shes close to me
its weird
scary too because i hate those things
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Alan Rockefeller
Mycologist
Registered: 03/10/07
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treesniper119 said:
So you can't have mysticism and medicine huh? I believe they are closely related, much more then you think, however, I sure don't know what causes cancer, dare i ask...do you?
Carcinogens and bad genes.
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What i do know is that for as long as there have been healers/shamans/curenandos/etc, they have used entheogens, vibration, & songs to heal people from any number of illnesses and addictions
The people they heal would have gotten better anyway.
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for example at times they use of mopacho tobacco to locate disease, suck out illnesses of the patients body, and transport it in the smoke, away from them. I've seen illnesses cured in such a way, modern science has yet to explain this,
Which illnesses have you seen cured this way?
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though science is attempting to desperately find out...
No it isn't.
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do you know what causes illnesses?
Pathogens, chemicals and genetic issues.
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Does science explain it thoroughly?
Yes.
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if so, how can these mystical techniques possibly work?
Placebo effect.
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I wouldn't call ZS a Charlton
I think lunatic is more accurate.
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I also think the hollow earth information is fascinating.
I hope you are joking.
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treesniper119
No one of Consequence
Registered: 08/12/08
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Why is it a joke to believe in a hollow earth theory again? Alan?
for example, the Gravity of earth & its "theory" behind its ability to draw you towards the center of a molten lava core by a field of magnetic energy that cant physically penetrate the earths crust and mantle... what science claims atm, is not accurate, and this has been proven contradictory and yet still disregarded. Science cannot explain how planets and stars are formed, or why they hold their place, or why moons move in multiple directions around a single planet (saturn for example)
Yet you ridicule others for mentioning the idea of a hollow earth....tell me this, since you know so much,
Has anyone here been to the center of the earth to know its exact consistency? Do you know of a technology that can scan through the whole earth and see every nook and cranny, all the secret and hidden places within it, a technology to identify this molten core in the center?...nope Have you ever been to the north or south poles to know if their are or aren't massive holes their? No, all you know is what your told. I can at least speculate with UN-biased opinion on a subject...
To make a claim that the earth is NOT hollow is just as ridiculous as claiming that the earth is flat and claiming it scientifically sound, without proof.
ZSlivingstone talks about sylphs and ACE's sometimes creating crop circles, you call him a lunatic... yet he speaks on some of the same issues as some of NASA's top scientists.
So What about Norm Bergrun...
http://educate-yourself.org/zsl/ringmmakersofsaturn09jul12.shtml
The ring makers of Saturn?! what about Norm Bergrun?! is he a Charlton? No... his credentials are impeccable though he says things that common people like you and i aren't privy to knowing, that current science and physics and common sense will automatically deny.
1) There are huge craft, over 20,000 miles long (two and one half Earth diameters) photographed making the rings around Saturn.
2) These craft are living and growing as he has obtained photographs from the two Voyagers and Hubble Space Telescope showing a range of sizes, likewise laying down the flat sheets of particles on the equatorial plane of Saturn.
3) These ringmakers are also making rings around Jupiter, Uranus and Neptune, all four gas giant planets, and now, they have been seen above Earth. He has seen them with his own eyes above the California coast, making their distinctive plasma jets, the same jets they use in ringmaking.
4) Bergrun believes Earth is coming to a tipping point where the ringmakers can change life on Earth.
How do you explain the rings that are made around other planets? Rings have been and are being created around other planets in the recent past... and what about the rings that are being made around our earth now? the same "things" that made those rings are being seen above our planet now...initiating ring making.
All I'm sayin to all you nay sayers is that there are a great many things in this reality that we are unaware of, to walk around pretending like you know everything, and rejecting things based on current flawed "theories" or "laws" of physics and the ever mutable laws of science seems to me like the absence of the ability to learn anything new at all. Science seeks perfection in becoming absolute in knowing all things, measurements, and properties, etc. casting off old inaccurate knowledge and refining its methodology, there is great wisdom in science but great foolishness as well, because it is an imperfect construct striving for absolution, faliure is certain at times, entire ideas and laws have changed and will change again as we evolve in our own understanding of all that is.
 Prisoner #1, i'm sure you always video tape everything you do so you can prove it to everyone else?
don't ever post anything on this site without a picture or video to back your experiences.
Why not read about a thousand different accounts of others experiencing a range of things that i have described in one such sitting with aya. Or why don't you have a real experience for yourself?
then you try and tell others about it too,
and have them beg you for photos and camera footage of your out of body experience, your 12 hour long aya trips, with a camera in your face while your purging non stop. No prissy, you wouldn't believe it if you saw it with your own eyes. You'd doubt it happened. I can tell... its easy to see that your a big doubter, & when it comes to anything to far out there, you rather stay inside the box (your intellect), with all your thoughts and rationale cramped inside.
Edited by treesniper119 (07/12/12 02:34 PM)
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Doc_T
Random Dude
Registered: 03/06/09
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Loc: Colorado
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treesniper119 said:
Why is it a joke to believe in a hollow earth theory again?
Because the math doesn't work out.
If the earth were hollow there wouldn't be any gravity at the surface.
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Enlil
LIL-9000
Registered: 08/16/03
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treesniper119 said:
Why is it a joke to believe in a hollow earth theory again? Alan?
The Gravity of earth & the theory behind its ability to draw you towards the center of a molten lava core by a field of magnetic energy that cant physically penetrate the earths crust and mantle... what science claims atm, is not accurate, and this has been proven contradictory and disregarded.
Serious science fail. The gravitational pull of the earth has nothing to do with the magnetic field of the earth...
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Fuck the Amish
Ellis Dee said, "And those kids in CT deserved to die and I'm glad they're dead. I am glad that the survivors will have to "live with it" too. hahaha"
Listerine said, "i want genocide for most of africa"
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DieCommie
El Guapo
Registered: 12/11/03
Posts: 25,374
Loc: Street of Dreams
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Re: Fucking Crop Circles [Re: Enlil] 3
#16519664 - 07/12/12 02:25 PM (11 months, 23 hours ago) |
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Serious science fail.
I think we found a new name for the forum!
But seriously... Science is just govt. misinformation.  Am I going to believe a scientist, or am I going to believe my gut? My gut tells me to listen to my gut.
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treesniper119
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Re: Fucking Crop Circles [Re: Enlil]
#16519759 - 07/12/12 02:46 PM (11 months, 22 hours ago) |
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Watch out Enlil, you've got failure all over your face... I never posted any of my theories about how anything was or wasn't a certain way, in fact, to this day, there are no current "accepted" laws of gravity, relative or universal, within the scientific community. there are theories that contradict each other, and theories that compliment theories, but, no one knows. thanks for sharing with us your assumptive arrogant side though. and so quick to reply while adding nothing of substance. 
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moonrockmushy
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Registered: 07/01/05
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Re: Fucking Crop Circles [Re: DieCommie]
#16519767 - 07/12/12 02:48 PM (11 months, 22 hours ago) |
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The ring makers of Saturn?! what about Norm Bergrun?! is he a Charlton? No... his credentials are impeccable though he says things that common people like you and i aren't privy to knowing, that current science and physics and common sense will automatically deny.
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Bergrun holds a BSME degree from Cornell University, an LLB from LaSalle University Extension, a DSc (Hon) from World University
http://www.ringmakersofsaturn.com/
I think he should have left that World University degree out entirely. That is shady.
Bachelors in law from Lasalle Extension University, now closed
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LSEU was involved in several lawsuits and counter-suits by the Federal Trade Commission over the law degree it advertised. In 1973, La Salle Extension University was charged by FTC (D. 5907) for "involving misrepresentations about obtaining law degrees through a correspondence course."[24] FTC ordered that the University be required to include a disclaimer in ads for its law distance program that read: "No state accepts any law home study course, including La Salle's, as sufficient education to qualify for admission to practice law."[25] La Salle Extension University closed its law school program in 1980 following the litigation involving the FTC.[26] La Salle Extension University's law school closed in 1980 and voluntarily relinquished accreditation of its law school program September 29, 1980.[citation needed]
wiki
Honestly, he's not really all that impressive. He studied ME, worked in engineering back in the day, since '71 he has run "Bergrun Engineering and Research" which today is "for world wide web activities".
Can you point me to any of his papers that might indicate that he has some knowedge to back up his claims?
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Doc_T
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Registered: 03/06/09
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Loc: Colorado
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treesniper119 said: there are no current "accepted" laws of gravity,
wat
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DieCommie
El Guapo
Registered: 12/11/03
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Loc: Street of Dreams
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treesniper119 said:
in fact, to this day, there are no current "accepted" laws of gravity, relative or universal, within the scientific community. there are theories that contradict each other, and theories that compliment theories, but, no one knows.
Nah, thats not true. You are confused. If you want to understand the current scientific view of gravity, post in the science forum. But what you have written here is nonsense.
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Enlil
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Registered: 08/16/03
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treesniper119 said:
Watch out Enlil, you've got failure all over your face... I never posted any of my theories about how anything was or wasn't a certain way, in fact, to this day, there are no current "accepted" laws of gravity, relative or universal, within the scientific community. there are theories that contradict each other, and theories that compliment theories, but, no one knows. thanks for sharing with us your assumptive arrogant side though. and so quick to reply while adding nothing of substance.
Gravity is just a lie made up to keep the masses from taking flight.
You are so misinformed...I wonder how stupid you're going to feel when you actually look into this shit for real.
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Fuck the Amish
Ellis Dee said, "And those kids in CT deserved to die and I'm glad they're dead. I am glad that the survivors will have to "live with it" too. hahaha"
Listerine said, "i want genocide for most of africa"
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Alan Rockefeller
Mycologist
Registered: 03/10/07
Posts: 31,943
Last seen: 18 hours, 1 minute
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treesniper119 said:
Why is it a joke to believe in a hollow earth theory again? Alan?
Because when you dig a deep hole, it gets hotter the further down you go. This heat isn't there by accident, it is because the interior of the earth is extremely hot.
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Science cannot explain how planets and stars are formed, or why they hold their place, or why moons move in multiple directions around a single planet (saturn for example)
Source?
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Have you ever been to the north or south poles to know if their are or aren't massive holes their?
Massive holes at the north and south pole? Really?
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No, all you know is what your told. I can at least speculate with UN-biased opinion on a subject...
To make a claim that the earth is NOT hollow is just as ridiculous as claiming that the earth is flat and claiming it scientifically sound, without proof.
The structure of the earth has been determined by studying seismic waves.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Structure_of_the_earth
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ZSlivingstone talks about sylphs and ACE's sometimes creating crop circles, you call him a lunatic... yet he speaks on some of the same issues as some of NASA's top scientists.
But comes to opposite conclusions of the NASA scientists.
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zzripz
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Registered: 12/23/08
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The language the circle makers use of course is symbolism. That being a universal picture language that was employed by past highly enlightened cultures from Ancient Egyptians to the Mayans.
I personally don't know what I think about the CCs. I have seen documentaries where I have seen hoaxers manage to do complex circles.
But I also have read reports of these hoaxers having affiliations with secret services and giving themselves satanic titles! WTFFF?
I have read and seen videos were 'experts' (as far as I am aware) claim that although they agree that there are hoaxed CCs, that this does not explain the scientific data which shows evidence of there being real CCs which could not be put in category of the hoaxers CCs--such as microwave readings, and way the crops are folded etc etc
I have seen a video where it is claimed orbs are forming CCs. Some say it is a hoax video. Some say it is real. Who is telling the truth?
I have heard more than several reports of people actually witnessing orbs, and strange lights from the sky, and sudden formations of CCs. Are they all lying?
But regarding the quote from an article you put out. he speaks of Mayan culture being "enlightened"? I thought it was a very violent civilization, and there were many bloody human sacrifices to appease 'gods' etc? Is that enlightened to you?
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