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 Psilosomniac
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 Medical Marijuana and Employment Drug Tests 
#16417703 - 06/22/12 12:48 AM (10 months, 27 days ago) |
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So I just got my Cannabis Card on the 19th, and I'm looking for a summer job. I applied at Walgreens, and it looks like I just might get the job. The problem is that I've heard Walgreens does pre-employment drug tests, and "random" drug tests on employees. I know that a cannabis card doesn't obligate employers to overlook a positive test for marijuana, but does anybody have any information on this? Quitting smoking isn't an option as I use it for legitimate medical conditions. If they drug test me, I plan on being upfront about being a medical patient and explaining why I need it before the test. Maybe with a good explanation and excuse, they'll overlook it  .
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 Re: Medical Marijuana and Employment Drug Tests [Re: Psilosomniac]
#16418312 - 06/22/12 02:59 AM (10 months, 27 days ago) |
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I thought the whole reason of having a medical marijuana card was to be able to smoke it for medical purposes at all times and not get in trouble for it. I doubt you have anything to worry about but I'm no expert here.
Man I can't wait to get my green card I really do use marijuana for medical purposes such as anxiety. Sucks it isn't medically legal in my state though 
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Re: Medical Marijuana and Employment Drug Tests [Re: ILikeACID]
#16418693 - 06/22/12 04:52 AM (10 months, 27 days ago) |
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Known fact -Medical marijuana does not protect you from drug screens, you don't have a percription, you have a recommendation. a major corporation will not look the other way on this, its a major liabilityfor them if they knowingly employ somebody under the influence and then the employee does something actionable (hurt somebody while stocking etc.).
Theory -However marinol (synthetic thc) is perscribed and therefore protected in a drug screen, meaning of you go to non pot doctor (regular pot doc won't do it...won't get into why) and get a perception that SHOULD (I don't know, just using basic logic) mask the marijuana.
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Re: Medical Marijuana and Employment Drug Tests [Re: clown b]
#16418726 - 06/22/12 05:03 AM (10 months, 27 days ago) |
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also faking drug tests with fake urine is easier than it sounds. You just have to be able to access it, and heat it if you get a surprise exam. The tests are expensive, they mostly do them the one time, I would imagine you'd only get retested if they suspected something.
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Re: Medical Marijuana and Employment Drug Tests [Re: clown b]
#16418737 - 06/22/12 05:07 AM (10 months, 27 days ago) |
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Ever hear about the walmart employee that got fired and then sued over that very thing? Oh and he had some kinda major medical issue rather than just "chronic pain."
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Re: Medical Marijuana and Employment Drug Tests [Re: clown b]
#16418778 - 06/22/12 05:27 AM (10 months, 27 days ago) |
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clown b said:
Known fact -Medical marijuana does not protect you from drug screens, you don't have a percription, you have a recommendation. a major corporation will not look the other way on this, its a major liabilityfor them if they knowingly employ somebody under the influence and then the employee does something actionable (hurt somebody while stocking etc.).
Theory -However marinol (synthetic thc) is perscribed and therefore protected in a drug screen, meaning of you go to non pot doctor (regular pot doc won't do it...won't get into why) and get a perception that SHOULD (I don't know, just using basic logic) mask the marijuana.
Yeah my life wouldnt be in ruins if medical marijuana patients got some kind of special treatment.Id have a job wouldnt drink it would be wonderfull but the fucking FEDs just dont stop when it comes to medical marijuana issues
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Re: Medical Marijuana and Employment Drug Tests [Re: runningfox2002]
#16418785 - 06/22/12 05:30 AM (10 months, 27 days ago) |
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Ever hear about the walmart employee that got fired and then sued over that very thing? Oh and he had some kinda major medical issue rather than just "chronic pain."
Nope. What was the outcome?
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Re: Medical Marijuana and Employment Drug Tests [Re: werDehT]
#16418811 - 06/22/12 05:41 AM (10 months, 27 days ago) |
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werDehT said:
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runningfox2002 said:
Ever hear about the walmart employee that got fired and then sued over that very thing? Oh and he had some kinda major medical issue rather than just "chronic pain."
Nope. What was the outcome?
long story short he lost his job when he revealed he was starting medical marijuana treatment for like Multiple sclorisis.Injustice i say
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Re: Medical Marijuana and Employment Drug Tests [Re: werDehT]
#16418814 - 06/22/12 05:42 AM (10 months, 27 days ago) |
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Impretty sure that he lost bc it was due to him failing their policy even though theyre just following fed policy of illicit subs. Itwas based out of MI if im not mistaken.
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Re: Medical Marijuana and Employment Drug Tests [Re: Seriously_Spaced]
#16418821 - 06/22/12 05:45 AM (10 months, 27 days ago) |
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Seriously_Spaced said:
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werDehT said:
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runningfox2002 said:
Ever hear about the walmart employee that got fired and then sued over that very thing? Oh and he had some kinda major medical issue rather than just "chronic pain."
Nope. What was the outcome?
long story short he lost his job when he revealed he was starting medical marijuana treatment for like Multiple sclorisis.Injustice i say
Injustice indeed.
I'm sorry man I feel for you best wishes your way hopefully things will get better soon.
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Re: Medical Marijuana and Employment Drug Tests [Re: runningfox2002]
#16418841 - 06/22/12 05:53 AM (10 months, 27 days ago) |
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Yeah very much so thanks acid ive learned to live with it
Here is the ABC news coverage of it
Even though Michigan resident Joseph Casias had a prescription from his doctor for medical marijuana, he was fired after a positive test for the substance by his employer, Walmart.
The news last November he'd been terminated was devastating for Casias, 29, who took great pride in his job, once earning the honor of Associate of the Year.
"It hurts. It hurts because I care. I care a lot about the store. I always wanted to make sure I do well," he told ABC News.
Casias started taking the medicine last June to cope with pain from sinus cancer and a brain tumor. He says the rare form of cancer causes him pain constantly and he almost died when he was first diagnosed.
Casias sprained his knee at work last November and underwent the routine drug test that follows all workplace injuries. Questioned about his positive test, Casias told management about his condition and presented a state card authorizing his marijuana use for medical purposes, but he was fired anyway. Casias says management told him Walmart does not honor medical marijuana cards.
"I just can't believe that it has to be this way. I don't see why they have to fire me," he said.
ABC News
Even though Michigan resident Joseph Casias... View Full Caption
Even though Michigan resident Joseph Casias had a prescription from his doctor for medical marijuana, he was fired after a positive test for the substance by his employer, Walmart. CloseMichigan is one of 14 states where medical marijuana is legal, but employers in the Wolverine state can and do terminate employees who fail drug tests. Walmart policy, like the policy of other companies, indicates that in states such as Michigan which allow marijuana use for medical purposes, the store can still terminate an employee following a positive drug test. The law in Michigan says employers do not have to accommodate the ingestion of marijuana in the workplace or employees working while under the influence.
Casias has been receiving Michigan unemployment compensation since his termination and was notified that the company would challenge his eligibility for benefits during a phone hearing on March 31. A Walmart spokesman says that's not the case -- it won't challenge Casias' eligibility.
Even still, Casias thinks he may be entitled to compensation because he did not break any Michigan laws by using marijuana for pain. "I'm currently taking a look at all my options available," he said. "I am currently talking to an attorney at this point."
"This is just an unfortunate situation all around," Walmart spokesman Greg Rossiter told ABC News. "We're sympathetic to Mr. Casias' condition, but like other companies we have to consider the overall safety of our customers and our associates, including Mr. Casias when making a difficult decision like this."
Medical Marijuana Hazardous in Workplace?
Certainly using a mind-altering drug on the job is something that would trouble any employer, but Casias says he never used the marijuana before or during work. He was in severe pain regularly so it would make sense that the drug was detected given that it can take weeks for marijuana to leave the system.
Doctors say a number of medicines or combination of medicines, such as antihistamines, could pose a danger at the workplace. And medical marijuana, which is thought to be relatively safe, falls into the category of substances that could be hazardous to the workplace. Casias unloaded trucks for Walmart.
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Re: Medical Marijuana and Employment Drug Tests [Re: Psilosomniac]
#16419420 - 06/22/12 10:48 AM (10 months, 26 days ago) |
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VicariousGreg said:
So I just got my Cannabis Card on the 19th, and I'm looking for a summer job. I applied at Walgreens, and it looks like I just might get the job. The problem is that I've heard Walgreens does pre-employment drug tests, and "random" drug tests on employees. I know that a cannabis card doesn't obligate employers to overlook a positive test for marijuana, but does anybody have any information on this? Quitting smoking isn't an option as I use it for legitimate medical conditions. If they drug test me, I plan on being upfront about being a medical patient and explaining why I need it before the test. Maybe with a good explanation and excuse, they'll overlook it .
Summer job? Forgive me, but I for some reason expected you to be a lil older. I assume from simply reading your posts and guaging your attitude ...glad someone sounds mature for their age for once.
But on topic I would go find a job at a restaurant....they're usually a laid back place to work...its fast paced work, but if you serve and your good with people you'll make bank!!! There's a reason I have a business degree and still waiting tables..and best part 85% of people that work in restaurants are stoners
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Re: Medical Marijuana and Employment Drug Tests [Re: Kief Ledger]
#16419479 - 06/22/12 11:02 AM (10 months, 26 days ago) |
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A buddy of mine is a pharmacist for Walgreens. He said don't bother because they have a zero tolerance policy for using marijuana even if it's prescribed. The fact that you can't tell when someone used last makes it impossible to prove you aren high at work. My field is similar I am required to take time off from work if prescribed any narcotic pain reliever. We can't risk the u predictable affects they have on some people and not others.
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Re: Medical Marijuana and Employment Drug Tests [Re: DocShroom]
#16421937 - 06/22/12 08:30 PM (10 months, 26 days ago) |
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clown b said:
Known fact -Medical marijuana does not protect you from drug screens, you don't have a percription, you have a recommendation. a major corporation will not look the other way on this, its a major liabilityfor them if they knowingly employ somebody under the influence and then the employee does something actionable (hurt somebody while stocking etc.).
Theory -However marinol (synthetic thc) is perscribed and therefore protected in a drug screen, meaning of you go to non pot doctor (regular pot doc won't do it...won't get into why) and get a perception that SHOULD (I don't know, just using basic logic) mask the marijuana.
Yeah, that's the problem. I know my card won't give me any legal backing, but I figure it's a step up from just failing a drug test without a card. I could at least make an effort to explain my situation and why I need this drug to function.
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also faking drug tests with fake urine is easier than it sounds. You just have to be able to access it, and heat it if you get a surprise exam. The tests are expensive, they mostly do them the one time, I would imagine you'd only get retested if they suspected something.
I feel like it would be better if I just be upfront about my use, even if it means I don't get the job. I would rather do that than use fake urine and have to worry about getting retested. At least if they let me through with the pre-employment test, I won't have to be paranoid about getting retested and fired.
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werDehT said:
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runningfox2002 said:
Ever hear about the walmart employee that got fired and then sued over that very thing? Oh and he had some kinda major medical issue rather than just "chronic pain."
Nope. What was the outcome?
long story short he lost his job when he revealed he was starting medical marijuana treatment for like Multiple sclorisis.Injustice i say
I heard about that guy, and I think I remember reading that he worked at Walgreens, not Walmart, actually.
Oh, and my condition isn't chronic pain. Cannabis is really the only promising treatment for my condition.
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Summer job? Forgive me, but I for some reason expected you to be a lil older. I assume from simply reading your posts and guaging your attitude ...glad someone sounds mature for their age for once.
But on topic I would go find a job at a restaurant....they're usually a laid back place to work...its fast paced work, but if you serve and your good with people you'll make bank!!! There's a reason I have a business degree and still waiting tables..and best part 85% of people that work in restaurants are stoners
I'll take that as a compliment  . I'm a college student.
I could look for a job at a restaurant, but I kinda just wanted something in retail, since I only need the job until class starts in September . There are a few other options, but Walgreens is down the street.
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A buddy of mine is a pharmacist for Walgreens. He said don't bother because they have a zero tolerance policy for using marijuana even if it's prescribed. The fact that you can't tell when someone used last makes it impossible to prove you aren high at work. My field is similar I am required to take time off from work if prescribed any narcotic pain reliever. We can't risk the u predictable affects they have on some people and not others.
Damn, well that's not a good sign for me. I think I'm still gonna try, though, just because I don't have anything to lose. I feel pretty overqualified for a sales clerk job, and if they reject me just because I'm a medical patient, it will be a pretty sad day.
I guess the whole liability thing makes sense. I'm still pretty annoyed about the whole thing though  .
I guess we'll see what happens .
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Re: Medical Marijuana and Employment Drug Tests [Re: Psilosomniac]
#16423351 - 06/23/12 01:18 AM (10 months, 26 days ago) |
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Lol, it was meant as one..
and you could always just quit when school starts...or just work on the weekends..
Wish i could offer other advice...only real jobs I've had are restaurants and UPS( they don't drug test for part-time+ free benifits) lol.
If you don't mind me asking, what's your major, maybe find something related to that area.
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Psilosomniac
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Re: Medical Marijuana and Employment Drug Tests [Re: Kief Ledger]
#16423384 - 06/23/12 01:25 AM (10 months, 26 days ago) |
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Lol, it was meant as one..
and you could always just quit when school starts...or just work on the weekends..
Wish i could offer other advice...only real jobs I've had are restaurants and UPS( they don't drug test for part-time+ free benifits) lol.
If you don't mind me asking, what's your major, maybe find something related to that area.
I thought so  .
I suppose I could. I'll see what happens with this job first, though.
My major's Computer Engineering. It's pretty difficult to find a job in this field without having a degree yet, unless it's an internship, which would be difficult to find for just 3 months.
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Re: Medical Marijuana and Employment Drug Tests [Re: Psilosomniac]
#16423439 - 06/23/12 01:38 AM (10 months, 26 days ago) |
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I'll just throw this out there as well, since it was brought up.
I turned 18 a week ago.  That's why I got my card on the 19th.
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Re: Medical Marijuana and Employment Drug Tests [Re: Psilosomniac]
#16423536 - 06/23/12 02:04 AM (10 months, 26 days ago) |
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your upfront-ness will take you far in one on one situations, but when dealing with beaurocrocy LIE! Always lie, the system is fucked and won't make exceptions for anybody.
Also restaurant work is great, all about the staff you work with, but yeah fucking everybody smokes
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Re: Medical Marijuana and Employment Drug Tests [Re: clown b]
#16423537 - 06/23/12 02:05 AM (10 months, 26 days ago) |
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I see.. I'd prolly just put an application in everywhere I could think of, or could stand working depending on how desperate you are..somebody's gotta be looking for a hardworking stoner..you could try a head shop( my dream job)
Have you read about computer programmers writing like insanely complex computer code while tripping on acid? They say its easier for them to comprehend once they get used to thinking in that way I suppose
Happy birthday man!
Is it against the rules for you to admit that you've been an illegetimate member of the forum for 2years
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Re: Medical Marijuana and Employment Drug Tests [Re: Kief Ledger]
#16423605 - 06/23/12 02:25 AM (10 months, 26 days ago) |
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Have you read about computer programmers writing like insanely complex computer code while tripping on acid? They say its easier for them to comprehend once they get used to thinking in that way I suppose
Happy birthday man!
Is it against the rules for you to admit that you've been an illegetimate member of the forum for 2years
I believe it. I have so much more focus with anything on acid. Mountain biking is a fucking blast on acid because everything almost feels like slow motion.
Thanks  . I figured it didn't really matter since I wasn't breaking any rules anymore .
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