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 Assange: Facebook, Google, Yahoo are Spying Tools 
#16415982 - 06/21/12 07:21 PM (10 months, 28 days ago) |
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For several years now I have occasionally heard of law enforcement using search histories and Google maps as evidence in criminal cases. It therefore should be no surprise that these corporate beasts are agents of the government. I suspected that Facebook and twitter were Zionist tools being manipulated in the Arab spring uprisings. Destabilizing the middle East only benefits Israel and oil companies, after all.
http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/assange-facebook-google-yahoo-spying-tools/
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In Julian Assange’s exclusive interview with RT he discusses everything from the uprisings in MENA, to his extradition fight, the Guantanamo and US Cable files, his relationship with The Guardian and The New York Times, global political youth movements, the current state of mainstream media and Bradley Manning.
He famously warns that social media and in particularly Facebook, Google, Yahoo are among the greatest spy machines ever invented. Once again Mr. Assange demonstrates his intelligence, authenticity and consciousness.
The man behind WikiLeaks says his website’s revelations are just the tip of the iceberg. It is only a matter of time before more damaging information becomes known.
“It’s not a matter of serving a subpoena, they have an interface they have developed for US Intelligence to use. Now, is the case that Facebook is run by US Intelligence? No, it’s not like that. It’s simply that US Intelligence is able to bring to bear legal and political pressure to them.”Quote:
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Re: Assange: Facebook, Google, Yahoo are Spying Tools [Re: Rail_Gun]
#16416062 - 06/21/12 07:41 PM (10 months, 28 days ago) |
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I would argue that Facebook is not a CIA cover for spying on Americans. But if people are dumb enough to freely provide personal information, intelligence gathering agencies are going to take advantage.
As for Wiki leaks; if he is just a front for a destabilization movement then why is he seeking refuge? Bradly Manning is the real hero.
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Re: Assange: Facebook, Google, Yahoo are Spying Tools [Re: cacharstar]
#16416862 - 06/21/12 10:25 PM (10 months, 28 days ago) |
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Wasn't it news a long time ago that Google bought Facebook? Or am I thinking of something else?
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Re: Assange: Facebook, Google, Yahoo are Spying Tools [Re: blankk]
#16417573 - 06/22/12 12:32 AM (10 months, 28 days ago) |
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I feel like if someone doesn't know this they don't know shit about how the world works lol
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Re: Assange: Facebook, Google, Yahoo are Spying Tools [Re: Saint Marcus] 3
#16417742 - 06/22/12 12:54 AM (10 months, 28 days ago) |
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I feel like if you haven't tripped on aya at least 300 times you don't know shit about how your world works
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Re: Assange: Facebook, Google, Yahoo are Spying Tools [Re: blankk] 1
#16417815 - 06/22/12 01:07 AM (10 months, 28 days ago) |
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http://thediggerer.com/index.php/component/k2/item/128-google-buys-facebook-privacy-concerns-over-or-just-starting
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Asked what their plans for Facebook were and about privacy issues, Chingen added, "Our promise to 'Not Be Evil' remains. We plan to completly overhaul Facebook. The layout will be more colorful, and that dreadful timeline feature is gone! The biggest news is privacy! I think everyone will be quite happy with our new strategy. We won't sell your information, photos or other private content. The confusing, constantly changing privacy settings will be gone. In fact, there will be no privacy. We are opening everything up to everyone. This is how Google has operated for years, and it's how we will continue to do business. If someone wants to find you, what your cat's name is, or what you told your ex-fiance' after the breakup -- all they have to do is go to www.google.com and type in your name into the search box."
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Re: Assange: Facebook, Google, Yahoo are Spying Tools [Re: cacharstar]
#16417879 - 06/22/12 01:18 AM (10 months, 28 days ago) |
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thanks
http://www.book-grab.com/
2012-05-31: Authors Guild given class-action status to sue Google (PDF, 126 K)
2011-09-12: Authors Guild sues Google's universities
2011-03-22: Judge Chin rejects the settlement (PDF, 175 K)
Cynthia S. Arato: Settlement violates international treaties (PDF, 137 K)
Graphic artists sue Google
U.S. Justice Dept: Settlement 2.0 still sucks (PDF, 268 K)
Open Book Alliance files new objection (PDF, 91 K)
Amazon.com files new objection (PDF, 422 K)
Consumer Watchdog files new objection (PDF, 47 K)
Indian authors and publishers file an objection
An antitrust complaint against Google in Germany
New York Times op-ed: On Google's "computational arrogance"
Google apologizes to Chinese writers
Three writers groups send an open letter to Congress
Gillian Spraggs: A survival aid for UK authors (PDF, 200 K)
Canadian writers start an anti-Google petition
New York Times op-ed: Google is out of control
Google is sued by Chinese author Mian Mian
Ursula K. Le Guin resigns from the Authors Guild
National Writers Union: Settlement 2.0 FAQ (PDF, 149 K)
Google loses French copyright case
French president will block Google's scanning
Amazon.com files another objection (PDF, 79 K)
November 13: Proposed amended settlement filed (PDF, 920 K)
Still nothing about reader privacy — will the FTC file an objection this time?
Chinese writers: Google violates copyrights
Pamela Samuelson: Google Books is not a library
Angela Merkel: Google violates copyright laws
Google may show ads on library terminals
Google Scholar metadata is full of errors
Google on trial in France for book scanning
U.S. Justice Dept: Settlement should be rejected by the Court (PDF, 247 K)
Consumer Watchdog writes to the Justice Dept (PDF, 92 K)
Five state attorneys general file objections
Copyright Office: Settlement would let Google break the law (PDF, 64 K)
Google: We have lots of book-settlement fanboys (so there!)
House Judiciary Committee hearing on September 10 (PDF, 288 K)
Microsoft: "The Court lacks jurisdiction" (PDF, 168 K)
Consumer Watchdog files an objection (PDF, 138 K)
French government files an objection (PDF, 292 K)
Open Book Alliance files an objection (PDF, 242 K)
"29 months of secret negotiations" by a "cartel" bent on "monopoly"
EFF: Privacy objection by authors and publishers (PDF, 258 K)
DC Comics files an objection (PDF, 67 K)
Yahoo!: Google gets an unfair search advantage (PDF, 90 K)
EPIC: Motion to intervene on behalf of user privacy (PDF, 202 K)
IILP at New York Law School files an objection (PDF, 269 K)
Amazon.com files an objection (PDF, 595 K)
German government files an objection
Google's book metadata is full of errors
Question: "Google, why are you copying all the copyrighted books
at major libraries?" Google: "Because that's where the books are!"
New website: Open Book Alliance
Open Book Alliance to oppose settlement
European opposition mounts against Google
The settlement and Eurpoean authors
Objection by Scott E. Gant (PDF, 399 K)
Brewster Kahle: A book grab by Google
ASJA says: "Stop the Google-ization of copyright law"
UC faculty writes to the Court: The settlement is unfair (PDF, 177 K)
Google muzzled us: "[C]onfidentiality rules...prevented us
from having an opportunity to comment on...the agreement."
Pamela Samuelson: The audacity of the settlement
National Writers Union opposes settlement (PDF, 28 K)
Science fiction writers group (SFWA) opposes settlement
William Morris advises clients to say no to Google settlement
American Library Association takes a look
ACLU: Don't close the book on reader privacy
EPIC: Google books settlement and privacy
Google-eyed U.Michigan gives away its library
Authors-publishers settlement with Google (PDF, 1.9 megs)
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Re: Assange: Facebook, Google, Yahoo are Spying Tools [Re: cacharstar]
#16417907 - 06/22/12 01:24 AM (10 months, 28 days ago) |
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wait...
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Re: Assange: Facebook, Google, Yahoo are Spying Tools [Re: blankk]
#16417914 - 06/22/12 01:27 AM (10 months, 28 days ago) |
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Re: Assange: Facebook, Google, Yahoo are Spying Tools [Re: cacharstar] 1
#16418344 - 06/22/12 03:08 AM (10 months, 28 days ago) |
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Facebook, Google, Yahoo are Spying Tools
They can be used that way, but they are designed to be marketing tools.
For example, I never bought anything I saw advertised until a few months ago. Gmail was reading my email and noticed that I was into cameras and microscopes. It used to be that I saw ads for gay websites all the time; the marketing people realized I wasn't into that and was actually into DSLR microscope adapters. Many websites I visited which used google ads tried to sell me one of these DSLR microscope adapters. The funny thing was that I actually really needed one of those. I clicked on the ad and bought one. I like it a lot and use it nearly every day.
I am a privacy/crypto advocate, but I also like facebook. I like sending people messages and sharing photos with my friends. I know they are watching me, and I don't care. They have always been watching me, and they will always watch me. This will never affect my life in any tangible way. I like being able to post a status update that says that I am going to Alaska, then I actually tape my cell phone to a dog and head to Mexico. So many opportunities to mess with the system.
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blankk said:
Wasn't it news a long time ago that Google bought Facebook? Or am I thinking of something else?
Yahoo bought facebook.
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I feel like if you haven't tripped on aya at least 300 times you don't know shit about how your world works
Confusing your brain does not teach you how the world works.
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http://thediggerer.com/index.php/component/k2/item/128-google-buys-facebook-privacy-concerns-over-or-just-starting
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Asked what their plans for Facebook were and about privacy issues, Chingen added, "Our promise to 'Not Be Evil' remains. We plan to completly overhaul Facebook. The layout will be more colorful, and that dreadful timeline feature is gone! The biggest news is privacy! I think everyone will be quite happy with our new strategy. We won't sell your information, photos or other private content. The confusing, constantly changing privacy settings will be gone. In fact, there will be no privacy. We are opening everything up to everyone. This is how Google has operated for years, and it's how we will continue to do business. If someone wants to find you, what your cat's name is, or what you told your ex-fiance' after the breakup -- all they have to do is go to www.google.com and type in your name into the search box."
Nothing in that article is true.
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Re: Assange: Facebook, Google, Yahoo are Spying Tools [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
#16418389 - 06/22/12 03:20 AM (10 months, 27 days ago) |
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Alan Rockefeller said:
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blankk said:
I feel like if you haven't tripped on aya at least 300 times you don't know shit about how your world works
Confusing your brain does not teach you how the world works.
I wasn't being serious...
"Confusing your brain..."
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Re: Assange: Facebook, Google, Yahoo are Spying Tools [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
#16418803 - 06/22/12 05:38 AM (10 months, 27 days ago) |
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Alan Rockefeller said:
For example, I never bought anything I saw advertised until a few months ago. Gmail was reading my email and noticed that I was into cameras and microscopes. It used to be that I saw ads for gay websites all the time; the marketing people realized I wasn't into that and was actually into DSLR microscope adapters. Many websites I visited which used google ads tried to sell me one of these DSLR microscope adapters.
I'm into gay microscopy as well! 
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Re: Assange: Facebook, Google, Yahoo are Spying Tools [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
#16419103 - 06/22/12 08:19 AM (10 months, 27 days ago) |
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Nothing in that article is true.
No wonder so many people are misinformed. I found numerous sites that claimed the purchase had occurred.
Thank you.
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Re: Assange: Facebook, Google, Yahoo are Spying Tools [Re: blankk]
#16419460 - 06/22/12 10:57 AM (10 months, 27 days ago) |
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I feel like if you haven't tripped on aya at least 300 times you don't know shit about how your world works
300 is a little excessive is it not? Shit I got the message by about the 5th time...
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Re: Assange: Facebook, Google, Yahoo are Spying Tools [Re: cacharstar]
#16419483 - 06/22/12 11:03 AM (10 months, 27 days ago) |
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Nothing in that article is true.
No wonder so many people are misinformed. I found numerous sites that claimed the purchase had occurred.
Thank you.
I wouldn't take that to heart...I think the general message behind it is quite true. That data will be public and available for the people inclined to do some research.
At least all of a persons google searches. I use Startpage which uses a proxy and does not record IP's. I recommend it. Google made some announces about their changes in privacy to be made March 2012.
I remember reading a couple articles about it and I was pretty disturbed at how they are choosing to treat information
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Re: Assange: Facebook, Google, Yahoo are Spying Tools [Re: cacharstar]
#16419529 - 06/22/12 11:15 AM (10 months, 27 days ago) |
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I would argue that Facebook is not a CIA cover for spying on Americans. But if people are dumb enough to freely provide personal information, intelligence gathering agencies are going to take advantage.
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"Psychedelic experience is only a glimpse of genuine mystical insight, but a glimpse which can be matured and deepened by the various ways of meditation in which drugs are no longer necessary or useful. If you get the message, hang up the phone. For psychedelic drugs are simply instruments, like microscopes, telescopes, and telephones. The biologist does not sit with eye permanently glued to the microscope, he goes away and works on what he has seen…"
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Re: Assange: Facebook, Google, Yahoo are Spying Tools [Re: Cojo]
#16421021 - 06/22/12 05:22 PM (10 months, 27 days ago) |
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Re: Assange: Facebook, Google, Yahoo are Spying Tools [Re: Saint Marcus]
#16421089 - 06/22/12 05:33 PM (10 months, 27 days ago) |
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That data will be public and available for the people inclined to do some research.
At least all of a persons google searches.
That kind of thing will never be public information. If you can see peoples google searches, you can tell which STD's they have, and all sorts of stuff like that.
Google does not index facebook, so unless you are friends with someone, it isn't that easy to see what they post. Unless they set the privacy settings to public.
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Google made some announces about their changes in privacy to be made March 2012.
I remember reading a couple articles about it and I was pretty disturbed at how they are choosing to treat information
I am pretty happy with Google's privacy policy. What don't you like about it?
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Re: Assange: Facebook, Google, Yahoo are Spying Tools [Re: Saint Marcus]
#16421591 - 06/22/12 07:20 PM (10 months, 27 days ago) |
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Saint Marcus said:
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blankk said:
I feel like if you haven't tripped on aya at least 300 times you don't know shit about how your world works
300 is a little excessive is it not? Shit I got the message by about the 5th time...
haha I wasn't being serious...
though I do believe there isn't one message to get, but many. it's a lifelong unfolding storyline of self discovery for me.
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Re: Assange: Facebook, Google, Yahoo are Spying Tools [Re: blankk]
#16438995 - 06/26/12 03:43 AM (10 months, 23 days ago) |
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http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/fighting-fifth-dimension/
Here's another good documentary about electronic warfare. It has some good parts regarding social networks.
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