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Re: The NBA [Re: Pilz]
    #16401822 - 06/19/12 03:53 AM (2 years, 5 months ago)

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I need to actually learn more about doing some bulk substrates and what not, ive only gone as far as spawning bird seed to coco coir. Then I just fruit it like that. Usually end up with 1-2oz per flush :thumbdown:

This is my first monotub that ive done in quite awhile so I am getting back in the swing of things



thats what i use, wbs, eco earth coir and small amounts of gypsum (all cheap and easy to find) and i typically only grow MS, i like the variety. its kinda cool seeing how your method evolves, you improve the way you do things little by little over time and your yields will continually get larger. what i have done in the last year that has helped alot was allowing a little more gas exchange during colonization. now usually only takes a week to get 100% and then i give it 2-3 more days, it seems to give me a little more life before contams catch up later on and gives me a bigger first flush. as simple as it sounds, mixing the spawn and sub very very well helps tremendously (i use to rush it a bit because of the fear of contams but its much more important to mix it well). i usually use 7 quarts of spawn instead of 6. I also give it a ton of fae,  tons of misting (but make sure no water pools) and very loose polyfil during fruiting (and even a bit loose on my jars). good luck :mushroom2::crazy2:




It really is fun watching your own skills become more and more precise

I only recently learned that about jars too and managed to get my colonization times down to 2 weeks instead of the 3-4 it was taking

I will try adding a little gypsum, I have a smaller tub I am going to start up here in a couple days, will try getting some for that.

And I usually dont mix the two, but I was planning on doing that this time around anyways. I also got a different coir. I had been using a more "barky," one but switching back to one that is more like a soil. Thoughts on different types of coir?


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Re: The NBA [Re: KillerPicklez]
    #16401892 - 06/19/12 04:27 AM (2 years, 5 months ago)

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I need to actually learn more about doing some bulk substrates and what not, ive only gone as far as spawning bird seed to coco coir. Then I just fruit it like that. Usually end up with 1-2oz per flush :thumbdown:

This is my first monotub that ive done in quite awhile so I am getting back in the swing of things



thats what i use, wbs, eco earth coir and small amounts of gypsum (all cheap and easy to find) and i typically only grow MS, i like the variety. its kinda cool seeing how your method evolves, you improve the way you do things little by little over time and your yields will continually get larger. what i have done in the last year that has helped alot was allowing a little more gas exchange during colonization. now usually only takes a week to get 100% and then i give it 2-3 more days, it seems to give me a little more life before contams catch up later on and gives me a bigger first flush. as simple as it sounds, mixing the spawn and sub very very well helps tremendously (i use to rush it a bit because of the fear of contams but its much more important to mix it well). i usually use 7 quarts of spawn instead of 6. I also give it a ton of fae,  tons of misting (but make sure no water pools) and very loose polyfil during fruiting (and even a bit loose on my jars). good luck :mushroom2::crazy2:




It really is fun watching your own skills become more and more precise

I only recently learned that about jars too and managed to get my colonization times down to 2 weeks instead of the 3-4 it was taking

I will try adding a little gypsum, I have a smaller tub I am going to start up here in a couple days, will try getting some for that.

And I usually dont mix the two, but I was planning on doing that this time around anyways. I also got a different coir. I had been using a more "barky," one but switching back to one that is more like a soil. Thoughts on different types of coir?



forgot to add i use vermiculite too (2 quarts per mono)...

yeah, i think my first jars ever took 6-7 weeks, lol, i must have had the grains soaked and poly packed tight as shit.

as far as gypsum goes, i use the garden grade brown pellet type, and dont worry about powdering it up beforehand, i use to do this and some teks even suggested it, i went through like 3 blenders just to find it dissolves in water pretty easily. to add gypsum to  the grains (it will make it alot easier to break the spawn up in the jars and give the mycelium bit of nutrients) - i mix in 1/2 - 1 cup after the last rinse before the overnight soaking of the grains (so the grains soak with the gypsum overnight). i also 1/2 - 1 cup before the simmer (so the grains simmer with the gypsum). to add the gypsum to your substrate simply add 1 - 1.25 cups of gypsum pellets to your 4 quarts of boiling water (you will have to mix it a few times to make it dissolve) that your going to add to the verm and coir. if you add much more gypsum than that its kinda like trying to boil mud and wont stay as hot as long thus wont expand and pasteurize the coir properly. you might want to add another cup of water to the 4 quarts to account for the gypsum. something a little bit different about gypsum, it seems to make the bruising of the fruits and cake a bit of a greener shade of blue, keep that in mind because it could be mistaken for contams.

as far as coir i have always used eco earth fiber bricks. packs of 3 specially, like below
http://www.amazon.com/Zoo-Med-Compressed-Coconut-Substrate/dp/B0010OSIHW/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1340094246&sr=8-1&keywords=eco+earth

shop around, you can find it for alot cheaper than 9.25 btw...


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Re: The NBA [Re: Pilz]
    #16401912 - 06/19/12 04:34 AM (2 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: The NBA [Re: Pilz]
    #16401923 - 06/19/12 04:39 AM (2 years, 5 months ago)

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KillerPicklez said:
I need to actually learn more about doing some bulk substrates and what not, ive only gone as far as spawning bird seed to coco coir. Then I just fruit it like that. Usually end up with 1-2oz per flush :thumbdown:

This is my first monotub that ive done in quite awhile so I am getting back in the swing of things



thats what i use, wbs, eco earth coir and small amounts of gypsum (all cheap and easy to find) and i typically only grow MS, i like the variety. its kinda cool seeing how your method evolves, you improve the way you do things little by little over time and your yields will continually get larger. what i have done in the last year that has helped alot was allowing a little more gas exchange during colonization. now usually only takes a week to get 100% and then i give it 2-3 more days, it seems to give me a little more life before contams catch up later on and gives me a bigger first flush. as simple as it sounds, mixing the spawn and sub very very well helps tremendously (i use to rush it a bit because of the fear of contams but its much more important to mix it well). i usually use 7 quarts of spawn instead of 6. I also give it a ton of fae,  tons of misting (but make sure no water pools) and very loose polyfil during fruiting (and even a bit loose on my jars). good luck :mushroom2::crazy2:




It really is fun watching your own skills become more and more precise

I only recently learned that about jars too and managed to get my colonization times down to 2 weeks instead of the 3-4 it was taking

I will try adding a little gypsum, I have a smaller tub I am going to start up here in a couple days, will try getting some for that.

And I usually dont mix the two, but I was planning on doing that this time around anyways. I also got a different coir. I had been using a more "barky," one but switching back to one that is more like a soil. Thoughts on different types of coir?



forgot to add i use vermiculite too (2 quarts per mono)...

yeah, i think my first jars ever took 6-7 weeks, lol, i must have had the grains soaked and poly packed tight as shit.

as far as gypsum goes, i use the garden grade brown pellet type, and dont worry about powdering it up beforehand, i use to do this and some teks even suggested it, i went through like 3 blenders just to find it dissolves in water pretty easily. to add gypsum to  the grains (it will make it alot easier to break the spawn up in the jars and give the mycelium bit of nutrients) - i mix in 1/2 - 1 cup after the last rinse before the overnight soaking of the grains (so the grains soak with the gypsum overnight). i also 1/2 - 1 cup before the simmer (so the grains simmer with the gypsum). to add the gypsum to your substrate simply add 1 - 1.25 cups of gypsum pellets to your 4 quarts of boiling water (you will have to mix it a few times to make it dissolve) that your going to add to the verm and coir. if you add much more gypsum than that its kinda like trying to boil mud and wont stay as hot as long thus wont expand and pasteurize the coir properly. you might want to add another cup of water to the 4 quarts to account for the gypsum. something a little bit different about gypsum, it seems to make the bruising of the fruits and cake a bit of a greener shade of blue, keep that in mind because it could be mistaken for contams.

as far as coir i have always used eco earth fiber bricks. packs of 3 specially, like below
http://www.amazon.com/Zoo-Med-Compressed-Coconut-Substrate/dp/B0010OSIHW/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1340094246&sr=8-1&keywords=eco+earth

shop around, you can find it for alot cheaper than 9.25 btw...




Excellent. Thanks

Yeah that is the coir I switched back to. 3 back for 7.50 at Petsmart today


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Re: The NBA [Re: KillerPicklez]
    #16404343 - 06/19/12 05:38 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

I am looking foward to a big 10+ point win by Oklahomo:cheer:

FUCK THE HEAT, I WANNA SEE LEBRON TEARS:highfive:

THE FUCKING GAME DONT START UNTIL 8 TONIGHT:crankey:


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Re: The NBA [Re: Pilz]
    #16405489 - 06/19/12 09:07 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

One other quick thing while I got ya here,

I am getting ready to pull my 3rd flush and dont really need the tub, so I figured id run that tub until it stops producing. Any tips on what to do with a tub at this stage? I was thinking of mixing it all up and adding a thin layer of that new coir that I just got


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Re: The NBA [Re: KillerPicklez]
    #16405619 - 06/19/12 09:42 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

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You are Pilze from Growery too right? Can you make a thread over there discussing your process on that monotub you just did




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    #16405641 - 06/19/12 09:46 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

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One other quick thing while I got ya here,

I am getting ready to pull my 3rd flush and dont really need the tub, so I figured id run that tub until it stops producing. Any tips on what to do with a tub at this stage? I was thinking of mixing it all up and adding a thin layer of that new coir that I just got



Chunk it outside in your garden:haha:


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Re: The NBA [Re: Oil Field Trash]
    #16405806 - 06/19/12 10:21 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

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You are Pilze from Growery too right? Can you make a thread over there discussing your process on that monotub you just did







It isnt the same person. sorry for derailing the sports thread. but this is also a mushroom forum :tongue:

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One other quick thing while I got ya here,

I am getting ready to pull my 3rd flush and dont really need the tub, so I figured id run that tub until it stops producing. Any tips on what to do with a tub at this stage? I was thinking of mixing it all up and adding a thin layer of that new coir that I just got



Chunk it outside in your garden:haha:




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    #16406478 - 06/20/12 12:23 AM (2 years, 5 months ago)

i live basically in a tropical setting so anything after the first flush is discarded out back, If its kinda low humity out there i just turn on the lawn sprinkler
Most times its so high humidity that i dont have do nothing except harvest

No more non sport talk:crankey:


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    #16406750 - 06/20/12 01:16 AM (2 years, 5 months ago)

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i live basically in a tropical setting so anything after the first flush is discarded out back, If its kinda low humity out there i just turn on the lawn sprinkler
Most times its so high humidity that i dont have do nothing except harvest

No more non sport talk:crankey:



:grin:haha sorry guys, someone starts talking about mush and i cant stop. anyway how bout them heat? one game away, it will take nothing short of a miracle for the thunder to win 3 straight at this point...


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    #16406899 - 06/20/12 01:55 AM (2 years, 5 months ago)

The Heat are unbeatable right now, hopefully the Okies can skin out a win and at least make it to a 6 game series at this point:facepalm3:


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    #16406962 - 06/20/12 02:11 AM (2 years, 5 months ago)

The Thunder will have their day, it's time for the Heat to shine...

Let's get this win, Heat! Yeah boi!!!


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    #16407021 - 06/20/12 02:25 AM (2 years, 5 months ago)

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The Thunder will have their day, it's time for the Heat to shine...

Let's get this win, Heat! Yeah boi!!!




Wow, a Hornets fan pull for the Heat....


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    #16407041 - 06/20/12 02:28 AM (2 years, 5 months ago)

Fuck a sweep i want 7 games:crankey:


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    #16407108 - 06/20/12 02:45 AM (2 years, 5 months ago)

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The Thunder will have their day, it's time for the Heat to shine...

Let's get this win, Heat! Yeah boi!!!




Wow, a Hornets fan pull for the Heat....




Yeah  I'm more a D. Wade fan, if my Hornets aren't in position,  people give me grief over LeBron, but I was a Heat fan long before he joined the team. Hornets will have a bright future though with the presumed Davis pick and the 10th pick which I hope will be Arnett Moultrie from my hometown SEC school. Most folks heard little of him, but REMEMBER that name. He's a stud and will be a force in the NBA overtime. Got skillz.


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Re: The NBA [Re: zorbman]
    #16407152 - 06/20/12 02:59 AM (2 years, 5 months ago)

You talk about excited about the NBA draft, only a Cavs fan can be almost as excited as a Hornets fan. We got 4 picks in the top 35 this year. Cant wait for Thursday to come (next Thursday)


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    #16407267 - 06/20/12 03:33 AM (2 years, 5 months ago)

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH !!!!

2006 - 2012 champions !
ONE MORE GAME BABY ! LETS GO HEAT !!!!


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    #16416051 - 06/21/12 07:38 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

lebron is going to tear both his hamstrings by halftime and the thunder will win the series


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    #16420879 - 06/22/12 04:42 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

Haters gonna hate !!!!
Here is the ring yall said we wont get !



MIAMI HEAT 2012 WORLD CHAMPIONS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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