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 Jamesy
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 Bad first trip leads to fighting police and taken to hospital. 
#16406908 - 06/20/12 01:57 AM (10 months, 28 days ago) |
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Hey guys,
This is my first ever post on shroomery.org. I felt like it would be good for me to share my experience and get feedback from more experienced trippers.
I had actually eaten mushrooms before this night, however, both times i tried them i didnt trip whatsoever. I have smoked bud more times than i can remember so i do have some experience in psycho-actives. I had done my research on mushrooms and how to trip properly, although, after seeing my mates do them in environments not typically suitable for tripping, i started to think all these "first time trip tips" we're over-cautious. Now i truly wish i'd put those precautions in place for my first trip.
It was saturday night, 20th June, 2012 and me and my mates had nothing to do. We tried calling some guys to see if they had any bud on them but everyone was dry. I then remembered that a guy i knew who was now picking and selling shrooms. He was a good bloke and i knew that he picked them himself and the shrooms wouldnt be dodgy. Im not sure of the amount we picked up but it was about 100 mushrooms the size of an Australian 10 cent coin. We only paid thirty bucks so we got a bargain.
After we bought the mushrooms, we went to a guys house that i'd went to once before but i wouldnt consider myself friends with him. I ate twenty of the shrooms at around 7 o'clock. Everyone else ate 10-20 mushrooms aswell.
After i ate the mushrooms, i went out with a couple of guys to pick up some bud for later, to kill some time before the shrooms kicked in. After about half an hour, the shrooms had kicked in. We had just picked up the weed and were going back to the house. I was having a blast! i had a great body high and was seeing mild but impressive visuals.
We got back to the house and i was acting weird but still very happy and enjoying my first trip. As the night went on, more people started to come to the house and party/gathering of about 15 people slowly evolved. I remember repeating stuff like "Am i sober?" and "Am i annoying anyone?". Other than that though i wasn't doing anything that out of the ordinary.
It got to around 9'oclock and my mate who was staying at my place that night started to feel sick. He wasnt tripping, he just didnt feel that well. I thought it would be a good idea if we left. All the other people at the house wanted us to stay. Numerous people were talking to me, i was struggling to call a cab and i was worried about my friend not feeling well....This is where my trip turned for the worse...
All of a sudden i started punching my friend in the stomach. He ran inside to get help while i started punching the ground and screaming things like "I CANT DO THIS SH*T ANYMORE" and "I CANT FU!!ING HANDLE THIS!". It was like i was possessed. My friends snapped me out of my craziness and brought me into the backyard. I closed my eyes and lay on the ground.
From here on, the happenings of the night are a bit of a blur. I will try to recall it as best as i can...
I got up randomly once and started to run into brick walls then immediately started laying down again. Also, a guy mate and a girl mate were trying to get me up as i looked unconscious. I wasnt asleep, i was just totally out of it. Anyway, i ended up grabbing the girl and punching her in the back of the head! (she didn't get injured but was pretty shook up). The most F@#^&D up thing that i did though was try and gouge my own eye out!. Luckily my friends stopped me.
Because i was harming myself and others, the same girl who i hit called an ambulance. She had no experience in psychedelics so she thought that was best thing to do in the situation. The ambulance people called the police because they were told i was being aggressive.
I cant remember this part but i've been told this is what happened...
The police came into the backyard and i absolutely flipped!. I hit two quite badly and four of them had to quite violently take me to the ground. They cuffed me and and carried me into the back of an ambulance. Here, they gave me sedative which took me under.
I woke up at 2 am in hospital, with my arms and legs strapped to the bed. I even had a personal guard sitting beside my bed in case i lashed out again. At this point i was still tripping but not insane. A doctor explained to me what had happened and i fell back to sleep. I woke up at 7 am and got discharged from hospital.
My first trip turned from the best night of my life to the worst. My mental state while lying in that backyard is pretty indescribable. At one point i thought i had died and gone to hell, i felt like i could never be happy again. I think what i felt was extreme depression. I was 100% sure during the bad part of the trip that nothing could ever make me happy again. I am glad the police came because i think i may have killed myself if they didnt. It was a truly religious experience while at the same time being unbearable and horrific.
I am fine now but the memory of that night is going to stick with me for a while. You may think that i have been put off shrooms forever, however, i do wish to try them again in the future. The next time though, i will make precautions so i dont fall into a bad trip again.
Thanks for reading,
Jamesy
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 Re: Bad first trip leads to fighting police and taken to hospital. [Re: Jamesy]
#16406985 - 06/20/12 02:16 AM (10 months, 28 days ago) |
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Well in the future I would suggest weighing your shrooms so you have a dosage ballpark.....or maybe your just not cut out for hallucinogens? You were pretty irresponsible an got your ass handed to you these drugs aren't toys. Because at the end of the day you could have seriously hurt yourself or other people. Your also lucky charges from the kids or cops weren't brought against you. Reflect on that man.
1. suggest you do a little more research in the future
2. Know your dose
3. Stay at home with a couple close friends an take lower doses an see how things go
4. An maybe take a break from drugs for a bit aye?
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Re: Bad first trip leads to fighting police and taken to hospital. [Re: Rewindicus]
#16407066 - 06/20/12 02:34 AM (10 months, 28 days ago) |
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Rewindicus said:
Well in the future I would suggest weighing your shrooms so you have a dosage ballpark.....or maybe your just not cut out for hallucinogens? You were pretty irresponsible an got your ass handed to you these drugs aren't toys. Because at the end of the day you could have seriously hurt yourself or other people. Your also lucky charges from the kids or cops weren't brought against you. Reflect on that man.
1. suggest you do a little more research in the future
2. Know your dose
3. Stay at home with a couple close friends an take lower doses an see how things go
4. An maybe take a break from drugs for a bit aye?
Thankyou, i will be staying off the drugs for a while. I have definitely realized these types of drugs, or any drugs for that matter, shouldn't be treated lightly.
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Re: Bad first trip leads to fighting police and taken to hospital. [Re: Jamesy]
#16407244 - 06/20/12 03:26 AM (10 months, 28 days ago) |
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That what you experienced is called mania.
This can be a symptom for schizophrenia. Many describe the feeling of having large amounts of anxiety build up until breakdown. If you begin to find yourself to be significantly more angry more often, or more bothered by things I'd recommend to maybe see a psychologist.
However, lets hope thats not the case. Mushrooms do have the capability to induce short term mania. Just try to lay of the drugs for a while, weed might be a lot different after having a trip like that, me thinks.
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Re: Bad first trip leads to fighting police and taken to hospital. [Re: SLusH]
#16407286 - 06/20/12 03:39 AM (10 months, 28 days ago) |
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i did suspect it was more than just a bad trip. No history of schizophrenia in my family although it is very plausible that i had a manic episode. Does anything else think it may have been more than just the mushies that did this to me?
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Re: Bad first trip leads to fighting police and taken to hospital. [Re: Jamesy]
#16410290 - 06/20/12 08:16 PM (10 months, 28 days ago) |
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to me it just sounds like u had a bad first trip. U werent in the right setting and things started to play out in a way u had not expected (more ppl showing up and ur friend getting sick. same kinda thing happened to me first time i tried lsd. I took one double dose strip and 4 of my friends did too. I was the first to start tripping and it was awesome. Unbelievable really. as time went on it came to b that only i tripped and thats when shit went south for me. i felt alone like no matter how many ppl were around me i was alone. i kept asking ppl if they felt like they were babysitting me. i started feeling like id never b happy again. what i did was completely remove myself from everyone except a 1 sitter and then listened to chill music for what seemed like 4ever and that calmed me down. however i will say that you shoud be more careful with psychedelics. its a whole'nother beast from mj.
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Re: Bad first trip leads to fighting police and taken to hospital. [Re: imthemaster7]
#16411261 - 06/20/12 10:59 PM (10 months, 28 days ago) |
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Sounds like a bad trip bro, next time remember the 2 big factors of a trip "Set and Setting". Your first trip was around a ton of people wo prob were not tripping I assume. BAD NEWS BEARS.
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Re: Bad first trip leads to fighting police and taken to hospital. [Re: JimLahey]
#16413004 - 06/21/12 09:09 AM (10 months, 27 days ago) |
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All that matters is you, your friends and the others are okay. I agree with everyone above. It is a set and setting issue. The thing about mushrooms is without experience; the littlest things can set you off in a very negative way. I would recommend exactly what others told you already. Lower your dose, trip at a safe place and respect this drug. Anything that can alter your conscience is a powerful substance. You must respect it!
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Re: Bad first trip leads to fighting police and taken to hospital. [Re: Jamesy]
#16413812 - 06/21/12 01:03 PM (10 months, 27 days ago) |
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Damn, crazy story. Many people don't understand that at high doses these drugs can completely disconnect you from yourself and you can go on a crazy type of autopilot. Ideas of right and wrong, sense and nonsense, violence and peace become indistinguishable. When psychosis creeps into your trip, there seems little defense against it other than some luck and a good and responsible sitter. I've had strange violent thoughts that I thankfully have never acted on when shit went bad, but they seemed perfectly reasonable at the time: smash the laptop and television to make the madness end or break the living room window. I don't take any pride in keeping my shit together or imagine that I have a strong will, I am just lucky that my delusions were not stronger than they were.
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Re: Bad first trip leads to fighting police and taken to hospital. [Re: joemolloy]
#16413851 - 06/21/12 01:14 PM (10 months, 27 days ago) |
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joemolloy said:
Damn, crazy story. Many people don't understand that at high doses these drugs can completely disconnect you from yourself and you can go on a crazy type of autopilot. Ideas of right and wrong, sense and nonsense, violence and peace become indistinguishable. When psychosis creeps into your trip, there seems little defense against it other than some luck and a good and responsible sitter. I've had strange violent thoughts that I thankfully have never acted on when shit went bad, but they seemed perfectly reasonable at the time: smash the laptop and television to make the madness end or break the living room window. I don't take any pride in keeping my shit together or imagine that I have a strong will, I am just lucky that my delusions were not stronger than they were.
Yeah you are 100% correct. I'm not even close to being an aggressive type personality; but in some extreme cases; I can think of some sick shit. Fortunately, I have the mental capacity to talk myself out of it.
Also, dosing can be very misleading as well. If you take 4 hits of LSD and you get a nice level 2; taking another 4 hits may propel you into a deep level 5. There is this weird threshold I've noticed. It's like the moment you take enough to break through; then any dose after can become extremely more powerful.
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Re: Bad first trip leads to fighting police and taken to hospital. [Re: joemolloy]
#16413958 - 06/21/12 01:45 PM (10 months, 27 days ago) |
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Man have I ever had those crazy insane thoughts. The times where you feel you've totally lost it and will be institutionalized for the rest of your life is waaayyyy scary. Somehow I've pulled through each time by the skin of my teeth without having a physical freak out. Be very careful OP, Be very careful
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Re: Bad first trip leads to fighting police and taken to hospital. [Re: Ill-bird]
#16413995 - 06/21/12 01:53 PM (10 months, 27 days ago) |
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You don't need to be doing psyches ever again, that is not even close to a normal response from a bad trip. Very surprised you aren't not in jail for assaulting a police officer.
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Re: Bad first trip leads to fighting police and taken to hospital. [Re: psilocybinjunkie]
#16414009 - 06/21/12 01:58 PM (10 months, 27 days ago) |
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What's really scary is he tried to gouge is eye out. I've never felt that way before and now he's scared me lmao!!!
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Re: Bad first trip leads to fighting police and taken to hospital. [Re: psilocybinjunkie]
#16414064 - 06/21/12 02:10 PM (10 months, 27 days ago) |
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that is not even close to a normal response from a bad trip.
I certainly don't consider it an aberration, but a potential and real consequence of unmeasured consumption, poor planning, and some bad luck. If I were to warn someone of the "normal responses" from a bad trip, it would be irresponsible to not place tremendous emphasis on schizoid-type mindstates its possible violent consequences.
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Re: Bad first trip leads to fighting police and taken to hospital. [Re: Ill-bird]
#16438541 - 06/26/12 01:18 AM (10 months, 22 days ago) |
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What's really scary is he tried to gouge is eye out. I've never felt that way before and now he's scared me lmao!!!
lol you are pretty safe from such things im certain. I've mega dosed and it wasn't anything like this, even back before I knew about the shroomery or what a level 5/Ego Death was.
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Re: Bad first trip leads to fighting police and taken to hospital. [Re: psilocybinjunkie]
#16438969 - 06/26/12 03:30 AM (10 months, 22 days ago) |
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His story reminds me of one of those short films they showed, back when I was in school, to freak you out about doing drugs. I remember one where a guy peeled his skin off or some shit. I feel sorry for the OP because that shit is just unreal to me
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Re: Bad first trip leads to fighting police and taken to hospital. [Re: Ill-bird]
#16440257 - 06/26/12 01:49 PM (10 months, 22 days ago) |
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I think the biggest reason why you had a bad trip was because a bunch of people started showing up to your house that weren't tripping and that put pressure on you.
The first time I ever took psychedelics, I was the only one tripping and I was at a solid +3 the whole time. There was a house party going on downstairs but I had no interest in being part of that whatsoever. I ventured outside once to smoke a cigarette and see what being outside was like, but that was it. I remained upstairs in my friend's room playing guitar and sitting there tripping the fuck out for most of the time. I wasn't acting in a way that required babysitting. But I had people that I trust with me the whole time. I was honestly too fucked up for the greater duration of the trip to even pay attention to how many people were around me.
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Re: Bad first trip leads to fighting police and taken to hospital. [Re: ClosedEyeCigarette]
#16475940 - 07/03/12 06:12 PM (10 months, 15 days ago) |
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I've had the same experience man. I also fought my friends and the cops. Was tied to a hospital bed and knocked out. I woke up in an aquarium in an orange jump suit. I learned a lot from the eperience. I wasn't dosing shrooms though. I had been up for days on crystal meth. I was heavily hooked on it for a while. I dosed only 2 hits of liquid LSD and flipped out. I thought people were trying to rape me. Even the cops. Set and setting man. Also I was listenting to dark drum and bass which wasn't a good idea at the time. I also learned that sleep deprivation can increase the potency of the trip. Be safe man. Don't let this "bad trip" shy you away from having the good ones.
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Re: Bad first trip leads to fighting police and taken to hospital. [Re: cmoss419]
#16493624 - 07/07/12 04:23 AM (10 months, 11 days ago) |
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that's incredibly strange, how a somewhat mellow experience "possessed" you to lash out violently like that.
It would be more reasonable if you blacked out, and someone told you these things happened the next day, but for you to remember them al and pretty much have a good trip until is very strange.
You must've been around PRETTY chill people not to get jumped after hitting the girl, i think if i did that on a moderate dose it would be psychologically painful to deal with the after-effects
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Re: Bad first trip leads to fighting police and taken to hospital. [Re: Jamesy]
#16493878 - 07/07/12 06:30 AM (10 months, 11 days ago) |
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Thanks for the feedback guys. It has been a month since this bad trip. For some reason i still want to try shrooms again soon, however next time with perfect set/setting and a considerably lower dosage. Do you guys think that if i put in proper precautions, i will not have to relive a trip similar to this?
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