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 Spawned to Compost Outdoors (Didn't Pasteurize Sub.) Then Moved Project Indoors (Pinning Pics!)) 
#16399842 - 06/18/12 08:55 PM (10 months, 30 days ago) |
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When summer rolled around, all mushie related projects came to a halt. Prefer the outdoors & regular gardening of vegetables, etc.
Well, two days ago, was cleaning out a closet and came across two quart jars of spawn that have got to be at least a month & a half old. They were 100% solid white & nearly brick-like. There was the appearance of either metabolites or a small bacterial infection going on (wasn't sure, and didn't really care, as I was just going to toss them anyway).
Well, awhile back I made some mushroom compost that I had intended on using for mushies, but after a failed project just before summer started, it ended up being used almost entirely in the garden for vegetables.
Well, I had some leftover just sitting outside (no longer in the compost process, it was literally just sitting there nearly 100% dry). I figured, what the hell, I've got some potentially contaminated spawn that's been sitting around for who knows how long & some compost that's meant for mushrooms sitting outside in a pile...why not mix the two and see what happens, haha.
So I took a hose to the pile of mushroom compost & soaked it down pretty good. Then I dug a hole about 6 inches deep and emptied the two quart jars of spawn into it, and then took about what was probably 3 quarts worth of the soaked mushroom compost and threw that in the hole. Then I just used my hands and mixed it all up, and then covered it with a little more of the compost. This was three days ago.
Well, curiosity was killing me today, so I went out there and removed the loose compost that I covered the hole with, and kind of just dug my hand into the center of the hole...low and behold, it was nearly SOLID with healthy looking mycelium. It literally just tore threw it, and it smells great, like mushrooms.
Well the weather outside is awful for mushie formation & growth. Ninety to one hundred degree days, no rain for weeks at a time, basically no humidity, etc, etc.
With that being the case, I figured what the hell, why not dig up the now colonized substrate, put it in a lasagna tray & bring it inside & see what happens?
So that's what I did. Using my hands, I just dug up what was in the hole and put it into the lasagna tray. While digging up what was in the hole, it basically destroyed what was colonized and turned it back into crumbled spawn, so there was no chance of a perfect intact "transplant" of what was colonized into the tray. Seeing that it was already crumbled & was now a mix of roughly 50% rye berries & 50% moist mushroom compost, I figured why not mix up a little more of the mushroom compost into it while putting it in the lasagna tray.
So now, I've got a tray that's roughly 30% rye berries & 70% mushroom compost sitting inside colonizing. The substrate was obviously never pasteurized, as it's been sitting outside, but the mushroom spawn seemed to start tearing through it almost immediately. It's pretty cool.
So if this works, and the tray I brought inside does successfully colonize (and fruit), I'll have literally spawned to a bulk substrate in not only the most unclean of conditions (outside, in the wind), but I'll have also spawned to the most unclean of substrates...mushroom compost that's been sitting outside for 2+ months.
It'll nearly be a tek, haha. "Take substrate & let it sit outside in the rain & sun for two weeks. Take spawn outside & mix with substrate & put it in a hole you dig in the ground. Let sit for three days & dig up and bring inside."
Will update as this moves forward (regardless of whether it works or not)
(You can see how the outdoor grow went here on this thread: UPDATE: Final Weight & Pics Outdoor Albino A+ Grow on Homemade Mushroom Compost - Beautiful Canopy!)
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Re: Spawned to Sub Outdoors (No Pasteurization of Sub.) & Then Moved Project Indoors (Successful So Far) [Re: sgfcchamber]
#16399909 - 06/18/12 09:06 PM (10 months, 30 days ago) |
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Just went ahead and snapped two (admittedly crappy & very large) pictures of the substrate in the tray. They were taken through the saran wrap, which makes them even worse...sorry about that. It will be attempted to make future pics nicer.
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Re: Spawned to Sub Outdoors (No Pasteurization of Sub.) & Then Moved Project Indoors (Successful So Far) [Re: sgfcchamber]
#16401291 - 06/19/12 01:10 AM (10 months, 30 days ago) |
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Cool. It will be pretty interesting to see if this actually works out for you. Thanks for taking the time to post about this stuff, I like to hear about people's novel attempts.
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Re: Spawned to Sub Outdoors (No Pasteurization of Sub.) & Then Moved Project Indoors (Successful So Far) [Re: shroomer17]
#16401389 - 06/19/12 01:28 AM (10 months, 30 days ago) |
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Could you zoom your pics a little closer next time please? I cant see what going on from that far away!!! Nice Rhiz Pics
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Re: Spawned to Sub Outdoors (No Pasteurization of Sub.) & Then Moved Project Indoors (Successful So Far) [Re: mrmojoshroomin]
#16401866 - 06/19/12 04:15 AM (10 months, 30 days ago) |
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P.s. Its called the neglect tek
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Re: Spawned to Sub Outdoors (No Pasteurization of Sub.) & Then Moved Project Indoors (Successful So Far) [Re: Revolutiontcm]
#16402709 - 06/19/12 11:30 AM (10 months, 29 days ago) |
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shroomer17 said:
Cool. It will be pretty interesting to see if this actually works out for you. Thanks for taking the time to post about this stuff, I like to hear about people's novel attempts.
Yeah, it definitely will be. I just checked on the tray, and it is without a doubt colonizing very happily. The crumbled spawn (which was a mix of substrate & rye) has definitely recovered & has "fuzzed up" and has already started to reach out onto the newly added substrate. Nice little rhizomorphs.
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Could you zoom your pics a little closer next time please? I cant see what going on from that far away!!! Nice Rhiz Pics:)
Actually, it isn't so much that the pictures aren't zoomed enough, it's that they're too blurry. Those pictures are actually incredibly close to the sub (we're talking inches away), they're just super crappy pics, haha.
Anyway, next time a few pics are snapped, every attempt will be made to make it so you can actually see what's going on. I actually already tried to snap a few new ones, but trying to take a decent picture through the saran wrap which is already covered in condensation is basically impossible. I don't want to remove the saran wrap to take a pic either, because then I'll destroy the CO2 buildup I'm trying to achieve.
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P.s. Its called the neglect tek
I thought the neglect tek was where you just left your fully colonized jars in their jars, and let the mushies simply grow out invitro...
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Re: Spawned to Sub Outdoors (No Pasteurization of Sub.) & Then Moved Project Indoors (Successful So Far) [Re: sgfcchamber]
#16403053 - 06/19/12 01:07 PM (10 months, 29 days ago) |
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Neglect tek is, just throwin it outside in some shit(or choice sub) leavin it alone with out much care (neglect) and seeing what happens.
I'm hoping for what ever reason your grow doesn't go south though. I'd really like to see your shrooms pull through their history.... Like crack babies that grew up to be brain surgeons and shit.
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Re: Spawned to Sub Outdoors (No Pasteurization of Sub.) & Then Moved Project Indoors (Successful So Far) [Re: Revolutiontcm]
#16403669 - 06/19/12 03:23 PM (10 months, 29 days ago) |
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Revolutiontcm said:
Neglect tek is, just throwin it outside in some shit(or choice sub) leavin it alone with out much care (neglect) and seeing what happens.
I'm hoping for what ever reason your grow doesn't go south though. I'd really like to see your shrooms pull through their history.... Like crack babies that grew up to be brain surgeons and shit.
Well look at that, guess there is "more than one way to neglect a cat", haha.
And yeah, I'm hoping it goes well. It'd be really interesting to have gone through basically none of the "required" steps and still end up with a mushroom or two.
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Re: Spawned to Sub Outdoors (No Pasteurization of Sub.) & Then Moved Project Indoors (Successful So Far) [Re: sgfcchamber]
#16406136 - 06/19/12 11:14 PM (10 months, 29 days ago) |
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Awesomeness. If you see any green or whatnot b4 fruiting time, maybe let er breathe until fruiting time. Good luck man this is definitely up my ally. I gotta find the thread w the dude who noc'd up ridiculous cubs with LC's (whole wheat pasta ect)
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Re: Spawned to Sub Outdoors (No Pasteurization of Sub.) & Then Moved Project Indoors (Successful So Far) [Re: Oeric McKenna]
#16406302 - 06/19/12 11:51 PM (10 months, 29 days ago) |
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3sheets said:
Awesomeness. If you see any green or whatnot b4 fruiting time, maybe let er breathe until fruiting time. Good luck man this is definitely up my ally. I gotta find the thread w the dude who noc'd up ridiculous cubs with LC's (whole wheat pasta ect)
Yeah, definitely will do that. I'll probably take the saran wrap off & throw it back outside if anything suspect shows up. So far so good though, and thanks for the well wishings!
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Re: Spawned to Sub Outdoors (No Pasteurization of Sub.) & Then Moved Project Indoors (Successful So Far) [Re: sgfcchamber]
#16413054 - 06/21/12 09:39 AM (10 months, 27 days ago) |
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Here are some pics at three days in. I went ahead and removed the saran wrap just to take these pics, because it's incredible, and I had to share it with you guys:
Remember, this was all started by throwing contaminated spawn into a hole in the ground with a substrate that had been sitting outside for 2+ months, waiting three days and then bringing it inside & putting it into an aluminum lasagna tray.
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Re: Spawned to Sub Outdoors (No Pasteurization of Sub.) & Then Moved Project Indoors (Successful So Far) [Re: sgfcchamber]
#16413542 - 06/21/12 12:03 PM (10 months, 27 days ago) |
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Re: Spawned to Sub Outdoors (No Pasteurization of Sub.) & Then Moved Project Indoors (Successful So Far) [Re: Unknown-Strain]
#16418907 - 06/22/12 06:37 AM (10 months, 27 days ago) |
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Nice! I bet if you soak it, cover in a thin verm layer and fan the hell out of it, it'll pin fast.
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Re: Spawned to Sub Outdoors (No Pasteurization of Sub.) & Then Moved Project Indoors (Successful So Far) [Re: Oeric McKenna]
#16419323 - 06/22/12 10:17 AM (10 months, 26 days ago) |
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3sheets said:
Nice! I bet if you soak it, cover in a thin verm layer and fan the hell out of it, it'll pin fast.
Well, it's not quite fully colonized just yet. I'm going to wait until it's 100% fully colonized, let it consolidate for 5 days or so, then I'll throw it in a FC.
I'll probably leave it uncased though.
I'm so curious to see what kind of pinset this thing's going to have...I'm normally so patient, but this experiment is leaving me antsy, haha.
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Re: Spawned to Sub Outdoors (No Pasteurization of Sub.) & Then Moved Project Indoors (Successful So Far) [Re: sgfcchamber]
#16435576 - 06/25/12 02:14 PM (10 months, 23 days ago) |
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Reached 100% colonization yesterday. Went ahead and cased the tray this afternoon, and am going to leave it to consolidate for four or five days, then it will be placed into fruiting conditions.
Will update when there is something to show.
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Re: Spawned to Sub Outdoors (No Pasteurization of Sub.) & Then Moved Project Indoors (Successful So Far) [Re: sgfcchamber]
#16435694 - 06/25/12 02:37 PM (10 months, 23 days ago) |
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Awesome my man. Give er a good soak too perhaps. Good luck!
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Re: Spawned to Sub Outdoors (No Pasteurization of Sub.) & Then Moved Project Indoors (Successful So Far) [Re: Oeric McKenna]
#16440261 - 06/26/12 01:51 PM (10 months, 22 days ago) |
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Awesome my man. Give er a good soak too perhaps. Good luck!
Will probably do that, haha.
It's looking great, I can already see mycelium peeking through the casing layer. I can't wait to get this baby into the fruiting chamber.
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Re: Spawned to Sub Outdoors (No Pasteurization of Sub.) & Then Moved Project Indoors (Successful So Far) [Re: sgfcchamber]
#16449586 - 06/28/12 08:18 AM (10 months, 20 days ago) |
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Put in the fruiting chamber today.
Will update when there is something to say
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Re: Spawned to Sub Outdoors (No Pasteurization of Sub.) & Then Moved Project Indoors (Successful So Far) [Re: sgfcchamber]
#16450636 - 06/28/12 01:35 PM (10 months, 20 days ago) |
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Grats on the success so far! It's amazing how resilient myco is. Make sure you print some caps. There is some genetics at work here...
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Re: Spawned to Sub Outdoors (No Pasteurization of Sub.) & Then Moved Project Indoors (Successful So Far) [Re: fungal_alchemist]
#16453189 - 06/28/12 10:30 PM (10 months, 20 days ago) |
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I'm actually quite excited to see how this turns out. Im about to toss some spawn as well. Smells like mushrooms and is fruiting but the cake isn't fully colonized and appears to have halted Mycelium growth completely. So I'm thinking contam.
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