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 Re: Do you believe there is a ruling elite?  [Re: treesniper119]
#16385923 - 06/15/12 04:53 PM (10 months, 30 days ago) |
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YHWH says he never once commanded man to burn their sons in sacrifice
except I've shown just the opposite of your claims and not just the
killing of their own children but the extermination and burning off
all the inhabitants of entire cities. are you citing the bible and
then claiming the bible is a book of lies?
once more for good measure
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maybe you should actually read the bible then, seems that most christians do not, I dont profess to be a christian, that might be because I read the scriptures
Judges 11:29-40 At that time the Spirit of the LORD came upon Jephthah, and he went throughout the land of Gilead and Manasseh, including Mizpah in Gilead, and led an army against the Ammonites. And Jephthah made a vow to the LORD. He said, "If you give me victory over the Ammonites, I will give to the LORD the first thing coming out of my house to greet me when I return in triumph. I will sacrifice it as a burnt offering.
So Jephthah led his army against the Ammonites, and the LORD gave him victory. He thoroughly defeated the Ammonites from Aroer to an area near Minnith – twenty towns – and as far away as Abel-keramim. Thus Israel subdued the Ammonites. When Jephthah returned home to Mizpah, his daughter – his only child – ran out to meet him, playing on a tambourine and dancing for joy. When he saw her, he tore his clothes in anguish. "My daughter!" he cried out. "My heart is breaking! What a tragedy that you came out to greet me. For I have made a vow to the LORD and cannot take it back." And she said, "Father, you have made a promise to the LORD. You must do to me what you have promised, for the LORD has given you a great victory over your enemies, the Ammonites. But first let me go up and roam in the hills and weep with my friends for two months, because I will die a virgin." "You may go," Jephthah said. And he let her go away for two months. She and her friends went into the hills and wept because she would never have children. When she returned home, her father kept his vow, and she died a virgin. So it has become a custom in Israel for young Israelite women to go away for four days each year to lament the fate of Jephthah's daughter."
Exodus 13:2 the Lord said "Consecrate to me every first-born that opens the womb among Israelites, both man and beast, for it belongs to me."
Joshua 7:15 The one who has stolen what was set apart for destruction will himself be burned with fire, along with everything he has, for he has broken the covenant of the LORD and has done a horrible thing in Israel.
1 Kings 13:1-2 At the LORD's command, a man of God from Judah went to Bethel, and he arrived there just as Jeroboam was approaching the altar to offer a sacrifice. Then at the LORD's command, he shouted, "O altar, altar! This is what the LORD says: A child named Josiah will be born into the dynasty of David. On you he will sacrifice the priests from the pagan shrines who come here to burn incense, and human bones will be burned on you.
2 Kings 23:20-25 And He [Josiah] executed the priests of the pagan shrines on their own altars, and he burned human bones on the altars to desecrate them. Finally, he returned to Jerusalem. King Josiah then issued this order to all the people: "You must celebrate the Passover to the LORD your God, as it is written in the Book of the Covenant." There had not been a Passover celebration like that since the time when the judges ruled in Israel, throughout all the years of the kings of Israel and Judah. This Passover was celebrated to the LORD in Jerusalem during the eighteenth year of King Josiah's reign. Josiah also exterminated the mediums and psychics, the household gods, and every other kind of idol worship, both in Jerusalem and throughout the land of Judah. He did this in obedience to all the laws written in the scroll that Hilkiah the priest had found in the LORD's Temple. Never before had there been a king like Josiah, who turned to the LORD with all his heart and soul and strength, obeying all the laws of Moses. And there has never been a king like him since.
Ezekiel 21:33-37 As for you, son of man, prophesy: Thus says the Lord GOD against the Ammonites and their insults: A sword, a sword is drawn for slaughter, burnished to consume and to flash lightning, because you planned with false visions and lying divinations to lay it on the necks of depraved and wicked men whose day has come when their crimes are at an end. Return it to its sheath! In the place where you were created, in the land of your origin, I will judge you. I will pour out my indignation upon you, breathing my fiery wrath upon you, I will hand you over to ravaging men, artisans of destruction. You shall be fuel for the fire, your blood shall flow throughout the land. You shall not be remembered, for I, the LORD, have spoken.
Deuteronomy 13:13-19 NLT Suppose you hear in one of the towns the LORD your God is giving you that some worthless rabble among you have led their fellow citizens astray by encouraging them to worship foreign gods. In such cases, you must examine the facts carefully. If you find it is true and can prove that such a detestable act has occurred among you, you must attack that town and completely destroy all its inhabitants, as well as all the livestock. Then you must pile all the plunder in the middle of the street and burn it. Put the entire town to the torch as a burnt offering to the LORD your God. That town must remain a ruin forever; it may never be rebuilt. Keep none of the plunder that has been set apart for destruction. Then the LORD will turn from his fierce anger and be merciful to you. He will have compassion on you and make you a great nation, just as he solemnly promised your ancestors. "The LORD your God will be merciful only if you obey him and keep all the commands I am giving you today, doing what is pleasing to him.
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for education to keep making students stupid
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Prisoner#1
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Re: Do you believe there is a ruling elite? [Re: cacharstar]
#16385960 - 06/15/12 04:59 PM (10 months, 30 days ago) |
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I'm current illuminati,
How is that working for you?
seems to be working out pretty well in the regard that anyone can claim to be the illuminati or a former member
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Dead hearts. So I assume you are not denying the existence of groups of wealthy and prominent people gathering in private to do whatever it is they do?
like play golf, screw hookers and farm animals and other role play games
why is it so ominous, dont poor people also do similar things? have
discussions about shit, talk about women, smoke blunts and what ever else
it is that they do. why does it suddenly become a global conspiracy when
wealthy people do it
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there are 923 words in the english language that do not follow the "I before E"
rule, there are 44 words in the english language that follow the rule. this is
the shit our education funding is paying for and these liberals want more money
for education to keep making students stupid
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Re: Do you believe there is a ruling elite? [Re: Prisoner#1]
#16386216 - 06/15/12 06:06 PM (10 months, 30 days ago) |
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why does it suddenly become a global conspiracy when
wealthy people do it
Because when prominent businessmen and political figures meet behind closed doors to discuss god knows what, it can be termed a conspiracy. The fucking word means any concurrence in action; combination in bringing about a given result. so when the participants are from all over the world ergo a GLOBAL CONSPIRACY. The only question is what is the agenda because it ain't what Alex Jones is spewing that is for sure.
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Re: Do you believe there is a ruling elite? [Re: Prisoner#1]
#16386265 - 06/15/12 06:15 PM (10 months, 30 days ago) |
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why does it suddenly become a global conspiracy when
wealthy people do it
Not only are they wealthy, but they lead our nation, the set and establish rules for the rest of civilization. And at the heart of their party is human sacrifice to a giant totem false God (the very same moloch mentioned in the bible) & all in the name of cremating their ability to care... i.e. your presidents do not care for your health, they do not care for civilization as a whole, & they are being deceived into a self destruction pattern. BTW, the enemy of YHWH (Satan) can't stop the flow of your life, and he can't force you to do anything against your own freewill, but we can so easily be tricked into destroying each other as history has shown us.... I'm not going to sleep in the same bed as these evil lunatics. Its sad that you defend their antics so adamantly prisoner #1, Alan R. and you as well DeadHearts.
www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bohemian_Grove
The Grove is particularly famous for a Manhattan Project planning meeting that took place there in September 1942, which subsequently led to the atomic bomb.
So lets all meet and find out how best to destroy one another from our wisdom giving, care sacrificing false totem moloch...
(A stone owl that represents a lack of empathy btw.) chanting...chanting....chanting AhhAAAAAAAAA! lets build an Atom bomb to wipe each other off the face of the earth, and damage the earth and every living thing on it for billions of years! Lets bomb Hiroshima & Nagasaki! Also setting us up for future cataclysmic events of nuclear proportions, in the making...!?
 Right?
Edited by treesniper119 (06/15/12 06:37 PM)
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Re: Do you believe there is a ruling elite? [Re: cacharstar]
#16386267 - 06/15/12 06:15 PM (10 months, 30 days ago) |
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cacharstar said:
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why does it suddenly become a global conspiracy when
wealthy people do it
Because when prominent businessmen and political figures meet behind closed doors to discuss god knows what, it can be termed a conspiracy. The fucking word means any concurrence in action; combination in bringing about a given result. so when the participants are from all over the world ergo a GLOBAL CONSPIRACY. The only question is what is the agenda because it ain't what Alex Jones is spewing that is for sure.
Indeed. I think it boils down to greed and power. Simple as that.
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Re: Do you believe there is a ruling elite? [Re: treesniper119]
#16386337 - 06/15/12 06:33 PM (10 months, 30 days ago) |
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treesniper119 said:
i.e. your presidents do not care for your health
That's not true - Health care is one of the main things that Obama is working to reform.
See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patient_Protection_and_Affordable_Care_Act (obamacare)
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Its sad that you defend their antics so adamantly prisoner #1, Alan R. and you as well DeadHearts.
I will defend everyone's right to do whatever they want in private as long as it doesn't hurt other people. If they do hurt other people, condemn them for that, not for partying out in the woods with their wealthy friends.
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treesniper119
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Alan Rockefeller said:
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treesniper119 said:
i.e. your presidents do not care for your health
That's not true - Health care is one of the main things that Obama is working to reform.
See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patient_Protection_and_Affordable_Care_Act (obamacare)
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Its sad that you defend their antics so adamantly prisoner #1, Alan R. and you as well DeadHearts.
I will defend everyone's right to do whatever they want in private as long as it doesn't hurt other people. If they do hurt other people, condemn them for that, not for partying out in the woods with their wealthy friends.
www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bohemian_Grove
The Grove is particularly famous for a Manhattan Project planning meeting that took place there in September 1942, which subsequently led to the atomic bomb.
So lets all meet and find out how best to destroy one another from our wisdom giving, care sacrificing false totem moloch...
(A stone owl that represents a lack of empathy btw.) chanting...chanting....chanting AhhAAAAAAAAA! lets build an Atom bomb to wipe each other off the face of the earth, and damage the earth and every living thing on it for billions of years! Lets bomb Hiroshima & Nagasaki! Also setting us up for future cataclysmic events of nuclear proportions, in the making...!?
Right?
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Re: Do you believe there is a ruling elite? [Re: treesniper119]
#16386401 - 06/15/12 06:50 PM (10 months, 30 days ago) |
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I understand the point you are trying to make but it was the middle of WW2 and the only other option was send waves of Americans onto the beaches of Japan. The end justifies the means.
Of course you have to look away from the years of policy that forced the Japs to attack us in the first place; but that is another thread.
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Re: Do you believe there is a ruling elite? [Re: treesniper119]
#16386598 - 06/15/12 07:43 PM (10 months, 30 days ago) |
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treesniper119 said:
The Grove is particularly famous for a Manhattan Project planning meeting that took place there in September 1942, which subsequently led to the atomic bomb.
So lets all meet and find out how best to destroy one another from our wisdom giving, care sacrificing false totem moloch...
(A stone owl that represents a lack of empathy btw.) chanting...chanting....chanting AhhAAAAAAAAA! lets build an Atom bomb to wipe each other off the face of the earth, and damage the earth and every living thing on it for billions of years! Lets bomb Hiroshima & Nagasaki! Also setting us up for future cataclysmic events of nuclear proportions, in the making...
If we hadn't developed nuclear weapons, someone else soon would have. And that other country might have actually used them. Oh wait...
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Re: Do you believe there is a ruling elite? [Re: treesniper119]
#16387024 - 06/15/12 09:22 PM (10 months, 30 days ago) |
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cacharstar said:
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why does it suddenly become a global conspiracy when
wealthy people do it
Because when prominent businessmen and political figures meet behind closed doors to discuss god knows what, it can be termed a conspiracy.
or it can be termed business, should everything your friends and yourself
do behind closed doors be made public lest it be deemed as a conspiracy?
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treesniper119 said:
why does it suddenly become a global conspiracy when
wealthy people do it
Not only are they wealthy, but they lead our nation, the set and establish rules for the rest of civilization. And at the heart of their party is human sacrifice to a giant totem false God
care to prove these sacrifices actually happen? you've yet to actually back
up anything you;ve stated so far. so far it's looking like you cant tell
the difference from reality and a play. mock human sacrifice isnt real
human sacrifice. hell if the place is supposed to be so secret then why are
there so many pictures of it, it's performances and it's attendees
http://dailymaverick.co.za/photo/resize/2011-01-18-ugland-346/600/346
molech in the bible wasnt an owl, the owl is the symbol of wisdom, this
claim of the owl being moloch is a recent creation as molech in the bible
was bovine
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your presidents do not care for your health
it's my job to safeguard my health, not the job of government or the president
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BTW, the enemy of YHWH (Satan) can't stop the flow of your life, and he can't force you to do anything against your own freewill, but we can so easily be tricked into destroying each other as history has shown us....
you mean like the way the gullible christians were tricked by by their
religious leaders under the name of their god into sacrificing their
children, waging wars against other nations such as what happened during
the crusades, the spanish inquisition, the salem witch trials and many
other periods of history? christians are frequently and easily tricked
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I'm not going to sleep in the same bed as these evil lunatics. Its sad that you defend their antics so adamantly prisoner #1, Alan R. and you as well DeadHearts.
you dont have to sleep, we just want the buttsecks and that's much better
when you're awake
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there are 923 words in the english language that do not follow the "I before E"
rule, there are 44 words in the english language that follow the rule. this is
the shit our education funding is paying for and these liberals want more money
for education to keep making students stupid
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Re: Do you believe there is a ruling elite? [Re: Prisoner#1] 1
#16387140 - 06/15/12 09:52 PM (10 months, 30 days ago) |
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Prisoner#1 said:
or it can be termed business, should everything your friends and yourself
do behind closed doors be made public lest it be deemed as a conspiracy?
What business do they have to meet in secret behind closed doors with presidential candidates? I thought you were a defender of the constitution? So they are conducting what business exactly? who gets fucked in the ass next? Come on man they are not playing golf here.
What say you about the skull and bones?
Just come out and say Quote:
I don't believe this to be occurring
and let us that do try and find some semblance
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Re: Do you believe there is a ruling elite? [Re: cacharstar]
#16391137 - 06/16/12 08:03 PM (10 months, 29 days ago) |
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cacharstar said:
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Prisoner#1 said:
or it can be termed business, should everything your friends and yourself
do behind closed doors be made public lest it be deemed as a conspiracy?
What business do they have to meet in secret behind closed doors with presidential candidates? I thought you were a defender of the constitution? So they are conducting what business exactly? who gets fucked in the ass next? Come on man they are not playing golf here.
what business do you have meeting in private, behind closed doors with
anyone, their business isnt my business and I see nothing that's being
done here as violating the constitution if you do, feel free to point it
out for the rest of us. how exactly is doing business a violation of
constitutional rights
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What say you about the skull and bones?
what is there to say, it's a social club for college boys
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there are 923 words in the english language that do not follow the "I before E"
rule, there are 44 words in the english language that follow the rule. this is
the shit our education funding is paying for and these liberals want more money
for education to keep making students stupid
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Re: Do you believe there is a ruling elite? [Re: Prisoner#1]
#16392751 - 06/17/12 02:14 AM (10 months, 29 days ago) |
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It begs the question do we live in a free and open society? By the people of the people and for the people. I guess they aren't discussing anything I should worry about then.
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Re: Do you believe there is a ruling elite? [Re: cacharstar]
#16393143 - 06/17/12 03:31 AM (10 months, 29 days ago) |
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who says we're an open society
you have secrets dont you?
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Re: Do you believe there is a ruling elite? [Re: Prisoner#1]
#16393604 - 06/17/12 07:37 AM (10 months, 29 days ago) |
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maybe you need to read the thread because this topic is deeply rooted in the religious
Do you read entire posts, or only your own? I acknowledged that religion is of course inherently related - but not in the way that you guys are going at it. None of this has anything to do with what a few others and I were talking about on page seven. SEVEN. Now it is just a bunch of people wanting proof and links and trying to look intelligent by posting links and videos and whatnot.
The thread wasn't created for that, and it wasn't at all what we were talking about before it got hijacked.
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Re: Do you believe there is a ruling elite? [Re: jordman]
#16394230 - 06/17/12 12:20 PM (10 months, 28 days ago) |
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jordman said:
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Prisoner#1 said:
maybe you need to read the thread because this topic is deeply rooted in the religious
Do you read entire posts, or only your own? I acknowledged that religion is of course inherently related - but not in the way that you guys are going at it. None of this has anything to do with what a few others and I were talking about on page seven. SEVEN. Now it is just a bunch of people wanting proof and links and trying to look intelligent by posting links and videos and whatnot.
The thread wasn't created for that, and it wasn't at all what we were talking about before it got hijacked.
why would the OP have posted something with his second post that was centered in religion if that wasnt a part of the conspiracy theory
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/16249961#16249961
now stop derailing the thread in order to attack me, discuss the topic
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there are 923 words in the english language that do not follow the "I before E"
rule, there are 44 words in the english language that follow the rule. this is
the shit our education funding is paying for and these liberals want more money
for education to keep making students stupid
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Re: Do you believe there is a ruling elite? [Re: Prisoner#1] 2
#16394616 - 06/17/12 01:25 PM (10 months, 28 days ago) |
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who says we're an open society
you have secrets dont you?
The premise is that they are discussing policy for the next year, and that is something that should be discussed by congress and the American people not some appointed round table of tapped jack asses. However, since you do not accept the idea that they are meeting for nefarious purposes, there is no reason to argue. Happy fathers day.
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Re: Do you believe there is a ruling elite? [Re: cacharstar]
#16394968 - 06/17/12 02:31 PM (10 months, 28 days ago) |
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Logan act violation...
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Re: Do you believe there is a ruling elite? [Re: cacharstar]
#16395515 - 06/17/12 04:39 PM (10 months, 28 days ago) |
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cacharstar said:
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Prisoner#1 said:
who says we're an open society
you have secrets dont you?
The premise is that they are discussing policy for the next year, and that is something that should be discussed by congress and the American people not some appointed round table of tapped jack asses. However, since you do not accept the idea that they are meeting for nefarious purposes, there is no reason to argue. Happy fathers day.
the premise. you assume they're discussion US policy as opposed to any thing else
why would a super secret organization make their minutes available publicly?
http://endthelie.com/books-and-reading-material/bilderberg-group-minutes-from-seven-years-meetings/
http://www.schnews.org.uk/bilderberg/bilderberg.html
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there are 923 words in the english language that do not follow the "I before E"
rule, there are 44 words in the english language that follow the rule. this is
the shit our education funding is paying for and these liberals want more money
for education to keep making students stupid
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Re: Do you believe there is a ruling elite? [Re: cacharstar]
#16395854 - 06/17/12 06:23 PM (10 months, 28 days ago) |
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I understand the point you are trying to make but it was the middle of WW2 and the only other option was send waves of Americans onto the beaches of Japan. The end justifies the means.
Why is it whenever I see "end justifies the means" I want to punch whoever said it? I fucking hate that statement. It's always been the excuse of the violently evil. Oh look at how Stalin/Pinochet/Mussolini brought their countries up and revolutionised them. Oh sure, a few mass graves here and there but the ends justify the means, right?
Fucking bollocks it does. George Washington would fucking hang any of his soldiers who were caught pillaging, and that's why the thirteen colonies backed him up. You look at how they were run back then, all they were fighting for is an objection to a higher tax rate than back in England. Now America seems to be number 1 for tyranny (of the hot kind, the panopitcon/open air prison tyranny title would have to go to the UK).
Because of George Washington taking the high road, people flocked to the cause of the founding fathers. They wanted to found a nation that would be a shining beacon to the rest of humanity. And the old blood, well, they have to grow their tendrils into everything, as per usual.
You ever wonder why Russia/UK/USA is subject to so much terrorist action? Because their means, justifying an "end" results in a lot of pissed off people, who get to watch their families be killed, raped and maimed by an evil machine. They get driven into a state where they have nothing to loose, and when a man has nothing to loose, he's dangerous.
But that's just fine, Russia/UK/USA welcome those terrorists, all that happens is some peons die whilst the aristocracy live in their palaces as per usual, and they can use the reaction to the problem (a problem they instigated, by fucking with other countries and people) to deliver a solution. This solution being gulags, CCTV, TSA screeners, secret police, death squads, and troops in the street. All for your "safety" of course.
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