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 jordman
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 Re: Research on MDMA/Ecstasy experiences of adults on autism spectrum  [Re: xFrockx]
#16343513 - 06/06/12 11:20 PM (11 months, 7 days ago) |
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durian_2008 said:
Informally speaking, I am of the understanding that A(utism) S(pectrum) people compartmentalize sensory overload, so are more prone to dissociate.
How does getting dosed with MDMA help someone to cope with more than they can already handle.
Is this meant to result in catharsis, and can that be psychologically damaging.
Is this new, mental state comparable to a split personality.
Interesting point. I'd like to hear the answers. I would think that because MDMA is such a social drug, it may help people on the autism spectrum learn to communicate, much like it was used in marriage counseling before it became illegal and equated to '12 full therapy sessions'. I'd say based on that there is potential. While not MDMA, mushrooms have helped me immensely in understanding my own brain and also learning how people socialise using the subtle shit I never noticed or understood before.
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xFrockx said:
So I'm ignorant and you know what you're talking about? That seems to be pretty much what you are saying.
Well I will admit that I am ignorant, but I do not know about any of the many things you seem to claim to know.
You seem to make the error of considering subjectivity as fact, making claims about how living with, caring for, or having autism produces a fundamentally "worse" experience. This, I think, is where you are mistaken. Our experiences are what we make them. There are challenges with raising any child, and how people react to those challenges differs widely. There are parents out there who have children without autism that have "terrible" parenting experiences. There are also parents out there who have children with autism that have "wonderful" parenting experiences. I think you're committing an error in thinking that there is a certain way that it is.
Isn't the goal to get to the point where anyone who has a child with autism can parent them without undue strain?
So instead of attacking me personally how about we talk about why it is that this perception exists, how people cope with it, or what mistakes have been made in the past.
I'm talking to a brick wall. I'm just repeating myself. Its a fucking spectrum man, there are a huge range of positive and negative stories. Some people can recover, some have it so bad that they won't. Hence, again, the use of the term spectrum. How thick are you mate? I have never alluded to all families with autistic kids being fucked or anything CLOSE to that. Its a veeeeery broad spectrum.
Everything you post is sidestepping what I have specifically said or is just judgmental shit from someone who hasn't experienced what it is like.
And yeah, you are ignorant, and I am a consumer in the mental health sector. I have lived, direct experience with the topic being discussed. This is why I think almost everything you said has been full of shit, I know what the reality of the situation can be, I've been there. I am there. I consider myself a 'positive' success in that regard, but, your backwards theory of families being unaffected is so fucking idiotic it is honestly hard to fathom. And I'm not trying to insult you, I'm simply stating what I see as fact. My family was traumatised by my behaviour for years until I was kicked out at 17 because I became very violent towards my mother. I bet she was completely unaffected, right?
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Re: Research on MDMA/Ecstasy experiences of adults on autism spectrum [Re: Dan4th]
#16347679 - 06/07/12 07:39 PM (11 months, 6 days ago) |
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i know this dont go here but keep geting nowhere trying to post other places(like it wont work)were can i start my own new post or thread.?why do i just have read only permition.every time i try using the the cultivation faq it says not found.i still love this site i just need some direction.i would have used spell check but its a wast of time win i cant post any wer any ways..pleas be cool im new to shroomry sorry for being lame
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Re: Research on MDMA/Ecstasy experiences of adults on autism spectrum [Re: mushmushvroom]
#16352512 - 06/08/12 05:25 PM (11 months, 5 days ago) |
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"I'm talking to a brick wall. I'm just repeating myself. Its a fucking spectrum man, there are a huge range of positive and negative stories. Some people can recover, some have it so bad that they won't. Hence, again, the use of the term spectrum. How thick are you mate? I have never alluded to all families with autistic kids being fucked or anything CLOSE to that. Its a veeeeery broad spectrum."
The spectrum is so broad it's difficult to tell where it begins and ends. I don't even really agree with making that category, I just see it as variation, everyone is different. I don't know what normal is.
I'm not sure how we disagree.
"Everything you post is sidestepping what I have specifically said or is just judgmental shit from someone who hasn't experienced what it is like."
I feel the same way at this point, but its not like you know me or vice versa.
"And yeah, you are ignorant, and I am a consumer in the mental health sector. I have lived, direct experience with the topic being discussed. This is why I think almost everything you said has been full of shit, I know what the reality of the situation can be, I've been there. I am there. I consider myself a 'positive' success in that regard, but, your backwards theory of families being unaffected is so fucking idiotic it is honestly hard to fathom. And I'm not trying to insult you, I'm simply stating what I see as fact. My family was traumatised by my behaviour for years until I was kicked out at 17 because I became very violent towards my mother. I bet she was completely unaffected, right? "
When did I say families are unaffected? I just can't categorize the experiences of families as a whole, with whatever children they have, as better or worse subjectively, because it would just be my opinion and I wouldn't be dealing with fact.
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Re: Research on MDMA/Ecstasy experiences of adults on autism spectrum [Re: xFrockx]
#16355500 - 06/09/12 11:40 AM (11 months, 4 days ago) |
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Why bring up the word normal?
Also, are you a doctor?
No, so I'm gonna stick with what has been researched, and that is the fact that there is an autism spectrum, I've seen extremes at both sides, I live a very similar life, and to say simply 'everyone is different' is plain ignorant. This attitude is what causes people who need help to not get it.
You feel the same way? I'm acknowledging what you are saying each time I post, you just try to ridicule and judge because you have no foot to stand on. I'm not the one being a dick to a bunch of people I don't even know bud. Those were your ignorant words of hate. This was what I was referring to by 'judgmental shit'.
When did you say families are unaffected? About two/three pages back bud, you can justify your words however you want, simple matter is you are a judgmental, critical person who knows nothing at all about mental health or autism (your posts make your lack of knowledge rather obvious).
"There is nothing inherently terrible about Autism."
"Raising a kid with autism is not fundamentally more trying or difficult than raising any other child. It forces a change in perspective sometimes."
Words spoken by someone who truly does know nothing. I'd love to hear you say that to a mother of a highly autistic child, in person. My guess is you'd get a slap pretty quickly.
Good luck to those who have the chance to participate in this study! The experiences I have had on MDMA lead me to believe that this is a legitimate exercise, as like I said MDMA was used for marriage counseling before it was banned, and it improved results drastically. If that was for married couples who were having trouble communicating, I can't see why this theory cannot be applied to adults on the autism spectrum, as socialising and recognising social cues is what highly autistic people find near impossible
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Re: Research on MDMA/Ecstasy experiences of adults on autism spectrum [Re: jordman]
#16356161 - 06/09/12 02:55 PM (11 months, 4 days ago) |
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"No, so I'm gonna stick with what has been researched, and that is the fact that there is an autism spectrum, I've seen extremes at both sides, I live a very similar life, and to say simply 'everyone is different' is plain ignorant. This attitude is what causes people who need help to not get it."
Feel free.
"When did you say families are unaffected? About two/three pages back bud, you can justify your words however you want"
I can only justify words I said, not words you are putting in my mouth. I said something far more specific and far different from "families are unaffected."
"Words spoken by someone who truly does know nothing."
Never claimed to know anything 
"I'd love to hear you say that to a mother of a highly autistic child, in person. My guess is you'd get a slap pretty quickly."
Stereotyping.
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Re: Research on MDMA/Ecstasy experiences of adults on autism spectrum [Re: xFrockx]
#16360784 - 06/10/12 02:01 PM (11 months, 3 days ago) |
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No,your words were:
"Raising a kid with autism is not fundamentally more trying or difficult than raising any other child. It forces a change in perspective sometimes."
LOL a change in perspective. Yes, it is that easy.
So from you, that wasn't an absurd form of stereotyping, right??
But am I stereotyping the actions of a parent being spoken to by you?
No, this is simply a probable outcome, but in reality there is no way you would have the cojones to talk, in person, that distastefully while being completely ignorant, looking in from out, to people affected.
Thank you for illustrating your complete ignorance in the topic. Now, why don't you find something to write about that you actually do know something about and may actually have something worthwhile to contribute?
You know, perhaps be -somewhat- productive rather than blurting out gibberish you don't know anything about?
Are you really that sad and lonely that this is how you fill free time?
Mate, go learn an instrument or something. You just sound pathetic insulting people who are already experiencing problems such as these when you know nothing of the problem;
hell, you even bullshitted about working within the sector!
 
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Re: Research on MDMA/Ecstasy experiences of adults on autism spectrum [Re: xFrockx]
#16360961 - 06/10/12 02:43 PM (11 months, 3 days ago) |
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xFrockx said:
We can and still are learning about autism. So unless you have a more proactive discussion in mind, I'm done.
HAHAHA! Are you 'done' yet with your 'pro-active' discussion techniques?
Seems not, /sniggeers 
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Re: Research on MDMA/Ecstasy experiences of adults on autism spectrum [Re: jordman]
#16361318 - 06/10/12 04:08 PM (11 months, 3 days ago) |
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MDMA was used for marriage counseling before it was banned, and it improved results drastically.
Informally speaking, I don't recommend marriage for a couple that needs a truth serum.
In the case of a mentally challenged person, I think my main concern is that the experiment creates a mental space in the patient, which he can't access, independently from his supplier.
That doesn't seem to be a healthy power dynamic, but I suppose the same situation of trust happens all the time.
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Re: Research on MDMA/Ecstasy experiences of adults on autism spectrum [Re: jordman]
#16366681 - 06/11/12 07:17 PM (11 months, 2 days ago) |
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"LOL a change in perspective. Yes, it is that easy."
For some, it is. If you want to deny that be my guest.
"So from you, that wasn't an absurd form of stereotyping, right??"
Sterotyping who? I'm saying that the experiences are not fundamentally different and that invidiual experiences vary. How is that stereotyping? I think you're trying to pin me saying something I simply am not saying. I am not saying parents of autistic kids are bad parents which is why their lives suck. But I don't agree with or believe in that.
"But am I stereotyping the actions of a parent being spoken to by you?"
I wouldn't say so.
"No, this is simply a probable outcome, but in reality there is no way you would have the cojones to talk, in person, that distastefully while being completely ignorant, looking in from out, to people affected."
What is simply a probable outcome? I would feel comfortable saying what I have said here to anyone. They might mistake me for saying something that I am not like you have, but as you can see, I can tolerate that and hope to communicate what I am saying until we reach a point of understanding.
"Thank you for illustrating your complete ignorance in the topic. Now, why don't you find something to write about that you actually do know something about and may actually have something worthwhile to contribute?
You know, perhaps be -somewhat- productive rather than blurting out gibberish you don't know anything about?
Are you really that sad and lonely that this is how you fill free time?
Mate, go learn an instrument or something. You just sound pathetic insulting people who are already experiencing problems such as these when you know nothing of the problem;
hell, you even bullshitted about working within the sector!"
What do you know about my qualifications or credibility? Again, you're trying to claim I am something or someone who I am not. I am sorry that it seems you have been exposed to ignorance in your life, and I am not different. I assure you though that what you are taking from my words is far different than what I intend with them.
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Re: Research on MDMA/Ecstasy experiences of adults on autism spectrum [Re: xFrockx]
#16371131 - 06/12/12 04:10 PM (11 months, 1 day ago) |
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How do you make a clear distinction between being on the autism spectrum and having a deterioration of the senses such as demetia?
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Re: Research on MDMA/Ecstasy experiences of adults on autism spectrum [Re: Evolutionkid]
#16374490 - 06/13/12 03:28 AM (11 months, 1 day ago) |
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Evolutionkid said:
How do you make a clear distinction between being on the autism spectrum and having a deterioration of the senses such as demetia?
The symptoms of the two share little to nothing in common with each other would be my first guess.
Autism/Aspergers becomes evident at the early stages in a persons life, where as dementia generally(not always) occurs in the latter stages of ones life would be my second guess.
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Re: Research on MDMA/Ecstasy experiences of adults on autism spectrum [Re: xFrockx]
#16379686 - 06/14/12 07:51 AM (11 months, 48 minutes ago) |
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xFrockx said:
blah blah blah
On deaf ears mate. Its so apparent and transparent, your prejudice and ignorant views I mean, that the words you say cause nothing but a smile on my face. Trying to play innocent, oh I'm pinning you down!
No, I'm directly quoting you, not twisting any words and you're having a little tanty about it. I thought you were 'done' with 'pro-active' (hahahahaha!!) discussion. So..... be done. Be gone. No one is listening to you dude!!
You do not GET autism, or aspergers. Your bluff has been called, your BS has been called, be done with it already!! Hahaha! You keep tryin so hard.
""Informally speaking, I don't recommend marriage for a couple that needs a truth serum.
In the case of a mentally challenged person, I think my main concern is that the experiment creates a mental space in the patient, which he can't access, independently from his supplier. ""
I agree with this mostly, though the experience, if coached and in the perfect setting, could permanently alter perspectives and knowledge held by the patient - knowledge to communicate for example. The drug may help them learn the ability, this doesn't mean they need it to socialise. No one can have ecstacy like a medication it will fuck you up! But I think monitored trips by professionals could be beneficial, especially if the MDMA is pure and it isn't the street shit that has caffeine and god knows what in 'em.
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Re: Research on MDMA/Ecstasy experiences of adults on autism spectrum [Re: jordman]
#16379718 - 06/14/12 08:15 AM (11 months, 24 minutes ago) |
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And what is "getting autism"? Exactly?
Edited by xFrockx (06/14/12 08:23 AM)
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Re: Research on MDMA/Ecstasy experiences of adults on autism spectrum [Re: xFrockx]
#16383970 - 06/15/12 05:04 AM (10 months, 30 days ago) |
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xFrockx said:
If you had heard more than the negative stories about autism, you might listen to something that slightly differs from your beliefs.
Plenty of families with autistic children get along just fine.
This argument is fucking cynical. Plenty of families with normal families, get along. Plenty of them dont. Plenty of families with autistic children get along, plenty of them don't. It's just irrelevant, and it's entirely circumstantial.
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Re: Research on MDMA/Ecstasy experiences of adults on autism spectrum [Re: xFrockx]
#16393463 - 06/17/12 05:33 AM (10 months, 28 days ago) |
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xFrockx said:
"LOL a change in perspective. Yes, it is that easy."
For some, it is. If you want to deny that be my guest.
Those 'some' must be real unobservant pricks then, if it is that easy to just flip perspective when the reality of the autism, however severe, hasn't changed at all. Nice.
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"So from you, that wasn't an absurd form of stereotyping, right??"
Sterotyping who? I'm saying that the experiences are not fundamentally different and that invidiual experiences vary. How is that stereotyping? I think you're trying to pin me saying something I simply am not saying. I am not saying parents of autistic kids are bad parents which is why their lives suck. But I don't agree with or believe in that.
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xFrockx said:
Stereotyping.
You brought up the word dude. Are you a cow by any chance?
As for the rest of what you said, NO SHIT, it is what I have been saying all along. I love how your point of view slowly changes so you seem innocent. But I'm not stupid mate.
I see through it.
You can say you didn't or did do this or that, but the fact is your attitude towards the subject is common and adds to the stigma that mental health is trying to shed.
People like you shouldn't be involved in anything to do with mental health, whether you have an opinion or not.
And you said yourself you know nothing about the subject.
So why before did you say you'd worked with autistic kids before? Hmmm...
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"But am I stereotyping the actions of a parent being spoken to by you?"
I wouldn't say so.
I'm glad you agree. So I wasn't stereotyping, I was just looking into my crystal ball and seeing someone with your attitude talking like you have to a mother of a highly autistic child who never makes eye contact with her, ever.
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"No, this is simply a probable outcome, but in reality there is no way you would have the cojones to talk, in person, that distastefully while being completely ignorant, looking in from out, to people affected."
What is simply a probable outcome? I would feel comfortable saying what I have said here to anyone. They might mistake me for saying something that I am not like you have, but as you can see, I can tolerate that and hope to communicate what I am saying until we reach a point of understanding.
No, here you really seem disillusioned. If you were to speak like you have, like I just said above, the reaction would be something akin to what I suggested. If you want to believe your own fairy land tales that you aren't being offensive in any way, then that's cool.
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What do you know about my qualifications or credibility? Again, you're trying to claim I am something or someone who I am not. I am sorry that it seems you have been exposed to ignorance in your life, and I am not different. I assure you though that what you are taking from my words is far different than what I intend with them.
Wrong again. I'm a writer, editor and general lover of reading, I'm not missing a thing mate. I made my assumptions on your (lack of) credibility based on your extremely ignorant posts, which as I said isn't a new concept to me as you seem to think, but it is a constant within the mental health sector, and I work hard to change that. Whether it be in public or on a internet forum.
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And what is "getting autism"? Exactly?
Understanding the basic concepts of it. Never heard the word 'get' to describe this? Basically the opposite of being an uneducated, rude and ignorant person towards the illness/disorder/whatever.
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xFrockx said:
If you had heard more than the negative stories about autism, you might listen to something that slightly differs from your beliefs.
Plenty of families with autistic children get along just fine.
This argument is fucking cynical. Plenty of families with normal families, get along. Plenty of them dont. Plenty of families with autistic children get along, plenty of them don't. It's just irrelevant, and it's entirely circumstantial.
Exactly. I know I shouldn't reply to this guy but I feel like I am speaking for more than just myself.
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Re: Research on MDMA/Ecstasy experiences of adults on autism spectrum [Re: jordman]
#16398568 - 06/18/12 09:35 AM (10 months, 26 days ago) |
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I had an opinion once, I wrote it down and then I lost it, this is upsetting because I would very much like to contribute to intellectual debates such as this...but cannot.
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Re: Research on MDMA/Ecstasy experiences of adults on autism spectrum [Re: legit27]
#16400624 - 06/18/12 11:07 PM (10 months, 26 days ago) |
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"it's entirely circumstantial."
Isn't it?
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Re: Research on MDMA/Ecstasy experiences of adults on autism spectrum [Re: jordman]
#16400752 - 06/18/12 11:27 PM (10 months, 26 days ago) |
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"Those 'some' must be real unobservant pricks then, if it is that easy to just flip perspective when the reality of the autism, however severe, hasn't changed at all. Nice."
I don't see what you're even talking about. Are you saying a change in perspective doesn't improve the situation? Or do you think parents should just deny anything is different and treat their kid like they're someone who they will never be?
"As for the rest of what you said, NO SHIT, it is what I have been saying all along. I love how your point of view slowly changes so you seem innocent. But I'm not stupid mate.
I see through it."
No, actually, my point of view has not changed. As I have repeated this entire time, you took from my words things I did not intend.
"And you said yourself you know nothing about the subject.
So why before did you say you'd worked with autistic kids before? Hmmm..."
How can you be sure? You don't know me. And in fact, you are wrong, and I have, for two years. I am no expert, and I am no liar.
"I was just looking into my crystal ball and seeing someone with your attitude talking like you have to a mother of a highly autistic child who never makes eye contact with her, ever."
This is the problem of this conversation. "Someone with my attitude" in your words, describes someone who is not, nor was, me. I said some very carefully worded, yet blunt things that you took in a way I did not intend and started fighting with me, assuming things and attacking me personally. I stand by my words that raising a child with autism is no fundamentally different than raising any other child, and if you have different fundamentals that is another thing entirely.
"No, here you really seem disillusioned. If you were to speak like you have, like I just said above, the reaction would be something akin to what I suggested. If you want to believe your own fairy land tales that you aren't being offensive in any way, then that's cool."
So I am disillusioned but living in a land of fairy tales? Please, this personal attack even contradicts itself, and its not even relevant to what we're trying t discuss, is it?
"Wrong again. I'm a writer, editor and general lover of reading, I'm not missing a thing mate. I made my assumptions on your (lack of) credibility based on your extremely ignorant posts, which as I said isn't a new concept to me as you seem to think, but it is a constant within the mental health sector, and I work hard to change that. Whether it be in public or on a internet forum."
No, this is where you are mistaken. Lover of words you might be, but to be a lover of knowledge is another. You've read my words, sure, but you don't know what they mean. You've not really asked, just attacked.
"Understanding the basic concepts of it. Never heard the word 'get' to describe this? Basically the opposite of being an uneducated, rude and ignorant person towards the illness/disorder/whatever."
One doesn't have to know anything about autism to not be rude towards a person with autism. In fact, some of the people who have been the most thoughtful, observant, and caring, that I have witnessed, have been people who do not work in the field and have no knowledge of the particulars.
"Exactly. I know I shouldn't reply to this guy but I feel like I am speaking for more than just myself. "
Either way you're only speaking for yourself.
Edited by xFrockx (06/18/12 11:36 PM)
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Re: Research on MDMA/Ecstasy experiences of adults on autism spectrum [Re: xFrockx]
#16404823 - 06/19/12 06:55 PM (10 months, 25 days ago) |
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I don't have autism, but Temple Grandin is my hero anyway!
Good luck with your work, I admire you for honestly trying to help people and make a difference in this world. 
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Re: Research on MDMA/Ecstasy experiences of adults on autism spectrum [Re: Dan4th]
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Hey guys, can you help me identify what kind of mushroom this is?
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