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 The Thinker
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Yea good call on that contamination Alan..........
Anyways.. please post micro with measurements from the spore print you got
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Bit of a longshot but have you compared to some of the Laccaria with lighter gills like L. laccata?
They seem a bit yellow, but I can see pinkish hues in there.
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The Thinker
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Also I don't think they are Laccaria
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spore avg. = 7.1 x 5.0
      
i guess the smooth spores rule out Laccaria.
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Do the spores and fruiting body turn red in KOH?
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Alan Rockefeller said:
Do the spores and fruiting body turn red in KOH?
i don't have KOH atm or i would have already tried.
i'm going to try and pick some up tomorrow.
where is the best place to purchase it, quickly??
i have one print left and i will keep a section of the cap to test.
peace and love
bloodworm
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Ieponumos
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bloodworm said:
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Alan Rockefeller said:
Do the spores and fruiting body turn red in KOH?
i don't have KOH atm or i would have already tried.
i'm going to try and pick some up tomorrow.
where is the best place to purchase it, quickly??
i have one print left and i will keep a section of the cap to test.
peace and love
bloodworm
If you can't find it, you can buy either a solution of NaOH or you can buy the crystals.
It is VERY caustic though, so use eye protection if you go that route.
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The pink that developed in the gills and the spore color and shape make me think Hygrocybe could be possible
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vjp
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Not too sure. If I hadn't seen the mushroom pics and only seen those brown spores I may have guessed Gymnopilus. I was hoping it would clear things up but I'm just more confused. I know you collect a ton of Gymnopilus- is there a way these could have been contaminated? Just doesn't look like any Gymnopilus I've seen.. G. picreus is the only vaguely similar one I can think of and that's not it. I also noticed that some of the spores on basidia look slightly angular which doesn't fit anything I've seen Gymnopilus species
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not contaminated.
they look nothing like Gymnopilus under the scope.
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 Re: id help.  [Re: vjp]
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The Thinker said:
Not too sure. If I hadn't seen the mushroom pics and only seen those brown spores I may have guessed Gymnopilus. I was hoping it would clear things up but I'm just more confused. I know you collect a ton of Gymnopilus- is there a way these could have been contaminated? Just doesn't look like any Gymnopilus I've seen.. G. picreus is the only vaguely similar one I can think of and that's not it. I also noticed that some of the spores on basidia look slightly angular which doesn't fit anything I've seen Gymnopilus species
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not contaminated.
they look nothing like Gymnopilus under the scope.
i think i may have figured out the culprit.
the damn water dropper!!
peace and love
bloodworm
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Has anyone ever actually done the Callistosporium spore-KOH test??? Or have any pictures? How red is the result? If you were to drop KOH on that thick white print shown in the picture, would it turn the print from white to red? If your looking at the smooth hyaline spores in KOH is it just the spore wall that changes color? Sorry so many questions...
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bloodworm said:
i don't have KOH atm or i would have already tried.
i'm going to try and pick some up tomorrow.
where is the best place to purchase it, quickly??
i have one print left and i will keep a section of the cap to test.
I got my current supply at a medical store in Mexico City. Any science store will have it. Also you could ask for a little bit from any college student who has lab access. It is really cheap and you don't need much for mycology purposes.
Another way to get it is ebay.
You can substitute sodium hydroxide 95% of the time, which means that many drain cleaners would work.
Some hardware stores sell pure lye.
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Or, according to mushroomexpert.com, you can consult a pharmacist about where you can find it locally. My local pharmacist didn't know what KOH was :* {.
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Ieponumos
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Or, according to mushroomexpert.com, you can consult a pharmacist about where you can find it locally. My local pharmacist didn't know what KOH was :* {.
WHAT? But pharm majors have to take chem classes and chem classes teach about alkali hydroxides and ... But .. Wait ..
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bloodworm said:
i don't have KOH atm or i would have already tried.
i'm going to try and pick some up tomorrow.
where is the best place to purchase it, quickly??
i have one print left and i will keep a section of the cap to test.
I got my current supply at a medical store in Mexico City. Any science store will have it. Also you could ask for a little bit from any college student who has lab access. It is really cheap and you don't need much for mycology purposes.
Another way to get it is ebay.
You can substitute sodium hydroxide 95% of the time, which means that many drain cleaners would work.
Some hardware stores sell pure lye.
Every Ace, Lowes, Walmart, Kmart, and Home Depot I have ever been to has stocked drain-o crystals, at least an off brand like Roebic Laboratories. Thats the brand I use.
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vjp said:
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The Thinker said:
Not too sure. If I hadn't seen the mushroom pics and only seen those brown spores I may have guessed Gymnopilus. I was hoping it would clear things up but I'm just more confused. I know you collect a ton of Gymnopilus- is there a way these could have been contaminated? Just doesn't look like any Gymnopilus I've seen.. G. picreus is the only vaguely similar one I can think of and that's not it. I also noticed that some of the spores on basidia look slightly angular which doesn't fit anything I've seen Gymnopilus species
Good call!!
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not contaminated.
they look nothing like Gymnopilus under the scope.
i think i may have figured out the culprit.
the damn water dropper!!
peace and love
bloodworm
Funny? Your adamance that it couldn't be contaminated only set things way back dude. Try to account for ignorance in the future because things like that make me trust you less and less
peace and love
The Thinker
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The Thinker said:
Not too sure. If I hadn't seen the mushroom pics and only seen those brown spores I may have guessed Gymnopilus. I was hoping it would clear things up but I'm just more confused. I know you collect a ton of Gymnopilus- is there a way these could have been contaminated? Just doesn't look like any Gymnopilus I've seen.. G. picreus is the only vaguely similar one I can think of and that's not it. I also noticed that some of the spores on basidia look slightly angular which doesn't fit anything I've seen Gymnopilus species
Good call!!
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not contaminated.
they look nothing like Gymnopilus under the scope.
i think i may have figured out the culprit.
the damn water dropper!!
peace and love
bloodworm
Funny? Your adamance that it couldn't be contaminated only set things way back dude. Try to account for ignorance in the future because things like that make me trust you less and less
peace and love
The Thinker
excuse me??
i made a mistake dood.
i initially thought you meant that the fruit body was infected...
not that it had become contaminated with foreign spores.
i take a lot of pride in checking and double checking myself.
we all make mistakes and yes, that is funny.
"set things way back??"
we still don't know what it is.
that includes you!
to be completely honest...
i don't care if YOU trust me or not.
i'm not here to win your acceptance and if you are going to be a dick...
i don't really care what you think.
lighten up, we are all on the same team here...remember??
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The Thinker
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so much ignorance doesn't even warrant a response
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Then why did you respond? Just to be inflammatory? Real classy, thinker.
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