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Re: Plz help me in health related easy suicide ways [Re: RonaldFuckingPaul]
    #16392376 - 06/17/12 12:38 AM (2 years, 2 months ago)

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Have the friend buy heroin instead of contract killer:shrug:

If it was me I'd combine as many hallucinogens as possible like cactus,shrooms, mdma, acid, dmt, ketamine, nitrous and just see what happens. Its not a sure thing that'd kill me but it'd be a hell of a way to go out :laugh2:



He wants to die not trip balls.:facepalm:




I did say if it was me, didn't I and did say it wouldn't be a sure thing. But fuckn A it'd be a hell of a way to go out :facepalm::facepalm:

But yea just have the friend by heroin. Problem solved.


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Re: Plz help me in health related easy suicide ways [Re: Mr. Anderson]
    #16392411 - 06/17/12 12:47 AM (2 years, 2 months ago)

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Have the friend buy heroin instead of contract killer:shrug:

If it was me I'd combine as many hallucinogens as possible like cactus,shrooms, mdma, acid, dmt, ketamine, nitrous and just see what happens. Its not a sure thing that'd kill me but it'd be a hell of a way to go out :laugh2:



He wants to die not trip balls.:facepalm:




I did say if it was me, didn't I and did say it wouldn't be a sure thing. But fuckn A it'd be a hell of a way to go out :facepalm::facepalm:

But yea just have the friend by heroin. Problem solved.



Like I said earlier he probably has a huge tolerance already to opiates.  And heroin isn't a sure thing and can be rather unpleasant for some people.


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Re: Plz help me in health related easy suicide ways [Re: RonaldFuckingPaul]
    #16399928 - 06/18/12 09:10 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

thanx for all the responses.... im still clueless. im sill undecided either to ask friend to loo for a killer or ask him to talk to some doctors and bribe them to do the medical assisted suicide. These are just my thought sitting in the bed, i donno if they are realistic. Thats why i seeked opinion in the easiest home based way that takes least efforts.


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Re: Plz help me in health related easy suicide ways [Re: uziel]
    #16400414 - 06/18/12 10:30 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

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thanx for all the responses.... im still clueless. im sill undecided either to ask friend to loo for a killer or ask him to talk to some doctors and bribe them to do the medical assisted suicide. These are just my thought sitting in the bed, i donno if they are realistic. Thats why i seeked opinion in the easiest home based way that takes least efforts.



I'm sorry you're going through this.  It's true that 99% of doctors are cowards and wouldn't do anything that would jeopardize their medical license.  If only Jack Kevorkian was your doctor...  If I were you I'd bribe somebody but you said you don't have very much money.


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Re: Plz help me in health related easy suicide ways [Re: RonaldFuckingPaul]
    #16719043 - 08/18/12 07:09 AM (2 years, 11 days ago)

I have managed to get some KCN (5grams) ... any help regarding how to take this and would it be painless.


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Re: Plz help me in health related easy suicide ways [Re: uziel]
    #16720743 - 08/18/12 03:54 PM (2 years, 10 days ago)

I'm no doctor but I believe your KCl would stop the heart, if IV'ed in large quantities. I don't know your situation regarding access to IV gear, but I'm assuming, having been through so much, you might. IV is a must, as

Orally, potassium chloride is toxic in excess; the LD50 is around 2.5 g/kg (meaning that a lethal dose for 50% of people weighing 75 kg (165 lb) is about 190 g (6.7 ounces)). Intravenously, this is reduced to just over 30 mg/kg,[13] but of more concern are its severe effects on the cardiac muscles: high doses can cause cardiac arrest and rapid death, thus the aforementioned use as the third and final drug delivered in the lethal injection process.


If you weigh 150lb, it would take 3.4g. The difficulty is in getting it all in, fast. With solubility at 281 g/L, you'd need more than a 10cc syringe full if it were completely saturated in water.

I think it's the potassium that stops the heart. KI (potassium iodide) solubility is 1.4g/mL at room temp, so I *think* you could fit a lethal dose in a 3mL syringe.

I'm sorry you feel you are out of options. I'm not on the way out so I'll never know what it is like. You are the best judge of whether euthanasia is a good choice. I hear that sometimes just having an exit plan, is relief enough to manage living. I wish you the best :sun:


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Re: Plz help me in health related easy suicide ways [Re: poke smot!]
    #16722171 - 08/18/12 08:37 PM (2 years, 10 days ago)

OP, I know how hard it can be to live when you have a horrible disease and find it hard to do just about anytthing. I know my situation isn't as severe as yours but I just want you to know that I understand why you want to take your life. I wish you the best sir. I hope its painless for you so you can finally be in peace. I'm sorry.


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Re: Plz help me in health related easy suicide ways [Re: poke smot!]
    #16723368 - 08/19/12 12:28 AM (2 years, 10 days ago)

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I'm no doctor but I believe your KCl would stop the heart, if IV'ed in large quantities. I don't know your situation regarding access to IV gear, but I'm assuming, having been through so much, you might. IV is a must, as

Orally, potassium chloride is toxic in excess; the LD50 is around 2.5 g/kg (meaning that a lethal dose for 50% of people weighing 75 kg (165 lb) is about 190 g (6.7 ounces)). Intravenously, this is reduced to just over 30 mg/kg,[13] but of more concern are its severe effects on the cardiac muscles: high doses can cause cardiac arrest and rapid death, thus the aforementioned use as the third and final drug delivered in the lethal injection process.


If you weigh 150lb, it would take 3.4g. The difficulty is in getting it all in, fast. With solubility at 281 g/L, you'd need more than a 10cc syringe full if it were completely saturated in water.

I think it's the potassium that stops the heart. KI (potassium iodide) solubility is 1.4g/mL at room temp, so I *think* you could fit a lethal dose in a 3mL syringe.

I'm sorry you feel you are out of options. I'm not on the way out so I'll never know what it is like. You are the best judge of whether euthanasia is a good choice. I hear that sometimes just having an exit plan, is relief enough to manage living. I wish you the best :sun:



I think he's referring to potassium cyanide(KCN)not potassium chloride(KCL).  They're not the same thing.  But here's instructions on how to deliver yourself from a hopeless/terminal illness from Derek Humphry's book Final Exit;  Follow these directions carefully my friend:


1. Take a small glass of cold tap water
2. Stir one gram, or 1.5 gram at most, of KCN(Potassium cyanide) into the water.(Larger amounts would cause burning of the throat.)
3. After about five minutes, the KCN is dissolved and ready to drink.  It remains drinkable for several hours, but not more
4. Once the potion is drunk, consciousness will be lost in about a minute.  There will just be time to rinse out the glass so that nobody else accidentaly drinks from it, and then lie down. 
  But beware:  A person weakened by illness might black out in twenty seconds(This might be your case)
5. While in the coma, death will follow in fifteen minutes, or at most forty-five minutes, depending on the physical strenth of the person and whether the stomach is full or empty.  An empty stomach(With cyanide) promotes faster death.
6. During the coma period, the dying person will breathe heavily and snore  loudly, similar to people who have taken an overdose of barbiturates.

The key to the effectiveness of cyanide as a killer is the water.


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Re: Plz help me in health related easy suicide ways [Re: RonaldFuckingPaul]
    #16723433 - 08/19/12 12:40 AM (2 years, 10 days ago)

Where is your proof for any of that? Particularly the loss of consciousness before death.

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its difficult for me to get Nitrous oxide or heroine as Im bed ridden. Please advice as per something that is easily available in home like insecticide etc. I have KCl, if I take 5gms of it, will it induce cardiac arrest?



I've had two heart attacks. I acknowledge your seriousness and your high threshold for pain is already high obviously. I wouldn't want your last few moments to be combined with all you already know as well as the terror and immediate helplessness of a heart attack combined with being poisoned and everything. Exit bag, and helium is the only real alternative to barbituates that I know of to be very feasible. I'd sooner hope for you to go to sleep in whatever peace you can find, with some solace in your soul.

Also, not sure what KCl is. The above is referring to insecticide and all that.


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Re: Plz help me in health related easy suicide ways [Re: Delicious Apes]
    #16723517 - 08/19/12 12:57 AM (2 years, 10 days ago)

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Where is your proof for any of that? Particularly the loss of consciousness before death.

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its difficult for me to get Nitrous oxide or heroine as Im bed ridden. Please advice as per something that is easily available in home like insecticide etc. I have KCl, if I take 5gms of it, will it induce cardiac arrest?



I've had two heart attacks. I acknowledge your seriousness and your high threshold for pain is already high obviously. I wouldn't want your last few moments to be combined with all you already know as well as the terror and immediate helplessness of a heart attack combined with being poisoned and everything. Exit bag, and helium is the only real alternative to barbituates that I know of to be very feasible. I'd sooner hope for you to go to sleep in whatever peace you can find, with some solace in your soul.

Also, not sure what KCl is. The above is referring to insecticide and all that.



It's from Derek Humphry's book Final Exit.  That's like the go-to suicide manual.  KCL is potassium Chloride.  It's the final drug that Jack Kevorkian used in his suicide machine in my sig.  It stops the heart rapidly when IV'ed.  OP mentioned he had 5 grams of KCN earlier which is potassium cyanide.  That's why I'm giving him instructions on how to use the cyanide.  Cyanide is kind of unpredictable in that some people seem to have peaceful deaths with it and others can go into convulsions so it's pretty unpredictable.  Here's my source;



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Re: Plz help me in health related easy suicide ways [Re: RonaldFuckingPaul]
    #16723576 - 08/19/12 01:07 AM (2 years, 10 days ago)

I am just wondering op If you would share with me how you got the KCL. I have been trying to get some. I have extensively researched suicide methods and I would recommend as an early poster said that you pour the KCL into the water and then quickly tape a bag over your head before you pass out to ensure that you die. Best of luck to you and I hope that you find peace in another life.


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Re: Plz help me in health related easy suicide ways [Re: ganjasmuggler]
    #16723598 - 08/19/12 01:12 AM (2 years, 10 days ago)

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I am just wondering op If you would share with me how you got the KCL. I have been trying to get some. I have extensively researched suicide methods and I would recommend as an early poster said that you pour the KCL into the water and then quickly tape a bag over your head before you pass out to ensure that you die. Best of luck to you and I hope that you find peace in another life.



You guys are mixing up KCL(Potassium Chloride) with KCN(Potassium Cyanide).  I'm not sure what one OP has.  I think he said KCN(Cyanide) though earlier.


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Re: Plz help me in health related easy suicide ways [Re: RonaldFuckingPaul]
    #16741669 - 08/27/12 07:55 AM (2 years, 2 days ago)

Can anyone help me with a link where I can buy Potassium Cyanide... some links that i found online were fake... hey are demanding 400USD for just 100GM of KCN though normally for industrial use KCN is available at 1$/kg easily. I have sent mails to manufacturing companies to send me sample and I am ready to for sample price for it all looks fake. I tried in Canada, Malaysia, china etc.


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Re: Plz help me in health related easy suicide ways [Re: uziel]
    #16741705 - 08/27/12 08:24 AM (2 years, 2 days ago)

I have not read any of this thread, nor will I.

I do not condone suicide, I do not wish to assist you in committing suicide.

That being said, if you're going to do it anyway, you might as well pass without suffering. Look up 'exit bags'. You just put a bag over your head with a hose in it connecting to a tank of nitrogen gas. When gasses other than nitrogen displace oxygen it causes a natural panic reaction and people who suffocate themselves with gasses like propane are often found dead in the act of clawing at the bag on their head from the panic instinct, not to mention the danger to someone who finds you in a room full of harmful gas...

It is the most peaceful way to go, it takes seconds and you just drift off to a nice peaceful sleep from which you will not wake. Every suicide method seems to really have it's downside (beyond the obvious) apart from this one.

I hope you have no need for my advice and that you go on to live a happy and fulfilling life.


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    #16743109 - 08/27/12 03:33 PM (2 years, 1 day ago)

Yeah the problem with that method is not everyone gan get a tank of nitrous.


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    #16743129 - 08/27/12 03:39 PM (2 years, 1 day ago)

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Yeah the problem with that method is not everyone gan get a tank of nitrous.




Nitrogen != Nitrous Oxide

They're different gases

Nitrogen = N2

Nitrous oxide = N2O


By the way, Helium is easy to get if you're near a party store.  Lately they've been mixing in oxygen to the helium to prevent suicides though so they're useless for that purpose.


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Re: Plz help me in health related easy suicide ways [Re: uziel]
    #16743326 - 08/27/12 04:19 PM (2 years, 1 day ago)

Buy powdered caffeine and take two spoon fulls. It won't be fun, but it will be cheap and guaranteed...


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    #16821577 - 09/10/12 06:00 AM (1 year, 11 months ago)

Hello,  I also read about CO poisoning. Would burning a charcoal fire or reaction between H2so4 and formic acid be more reliable. If some one has an idea, please let me know. Thanx


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    #16823498 - 09/10/12 04:22 PM (1 year, 11 months ago)

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Hello,  I also read about CO poisoning. Would burning a charcoal fire or reaction between H2so4 and formic acid be more reliable. If some one has an idea, please let me know. Thanx



A charcoal fire would work in an enclosed space.  If you do this though warn people who live around you so you don't hurt them to.


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Re: Plz help me in health related easy suicide ways [Re: RonaldFuckingPaul]
    #16825057 - 09/10/12 08:38 PM (1 year, 11 months ago)

have you tried marijuana? research proves thc is very beneficial to things your dealing with, including chronic pain, severe arthritis, immune system related problems. try something with high thc content, like hash oil.

http://boards.cannabis.com/concentrates/102136-easy-way-making-hash-oil.html

also have you tried meditation, exercise (even if just walking), healthy eating, and yoga?

also this book was written based on a program done to help people deal with all sorts of health problems from things like cancer, depression, stress, and immune system problems.

Full Catastrophe Living: Using the Wisdom of Your Body and Mind to Face Stress, Pain, and Illness
http://www.amazon.com/Full-Catastrophe-Living-Wisdom-Illness/dp/0385303122/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1347323463&sr=8-1&keywords=full+catastrophe+living


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