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Re: Do you believe there is a ruling elite? [Re: Enlil]
    #16383016 - 06/14/12 11:30 PM (10 months, 30 days ago)

I've seen that one and there's at least versions of baphomet in the bill, and
a few versions of moloch none of them are the same, showing again a fuckload
of crack pottery that people simply buy into because they're TrueBelievers®



of course if you super impose it over the bill it looks like it's there, other than that, absolutely nothing looks like it





supposedly moloch


which came from the great seal, in case you cant tell, it's the eagles head mirrored over it's self



and this moloch, supposedly a spider



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Re: Do you believe there is a ruling elite? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #16383022 - 06/14/12 11:33 PM (10 months, 30 days ago)

I don't know about any of that...but the best episode of CHIPS was the halloween one where the rock star, "moloch" was supposed to be killed, but ponch and john saved the day...


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Re: Do you believe there is a ruling elite? [Re: treesniper119]
    #16383086 - 06/14/12 11:54 PM (10 months, 30 days ago)

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TS119- Then when i post a video from a man who claims to be ex-Illuminati on videos





I'm current illuminati, do I need to make a youtube video to prove it?



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He clearly shows a baphomet, an owl, the crest of the rothschild family etc. & after you seeing this, you continually spam this page with "show me the baphomet"





he clearly shows nothing, how about you show us what he's claiming, a simple picture will suffice, not some attention whore bastard's self promotion video he uses to book lectures

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& ad hominem anti religion spew, while discrediting the videos as a fake, and the man in them as a liar.





didnt you do that with the bible, specifically about the sacrifice of isaac




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I don't know if the man is lying or not




who would be able to quit the illuminati, if they actually existed, and live to expose all their secrets...



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but i can clearly see what he is talking about,




somehow you can clearly see all the human sacrifice in the bible exceot
that which god demanded or at the least allowed including this one about
Abraham and isaac


Chapter 22

1 And it came to pass after these things, that God did tempt Abraham, and said unto him, Abraham: and he said, Behold, here I am.

2 And he said, Take now thy son, thine only son Isaac, whom thou lovest, and get thee into the land of Moriah; and offer him there for a burnt offering upon one of the mountains which I will tell thee of.

3 And Abraham rose up early in the morning, and saddled his ass, and took two of his young men with him, and Isaac his son, and clave the wood for the burnt offering, and rose up, and went unto the place of which God had told him.

4 Then on the third day Abraham lifted up his eyes, and saw the place afar off.

5 And Abraham said unto his young men, Abide ye here with the ass; and I and the lad will go yonder and worship, and come again to you.

6 And Abraham took the wood of the burnt offering, and laid it upon Isaac his son; and he took the fire in his hand, and a knife; and they went both of them together.

7 And Isaac spake unto Abraham his father, and said, My father: and he said, Here am I, my son. And he said, Behold the fire and the wood: but where is the lamb for a burnt offering?

8 And Abraham said, My son, God will provide himself a lamb for a burnt offering: so they went both of them together.

9 And they came to the place which God had told him of; and Abraham built an altar there, and laid the wood in order, and bound Isaac his son, and laid him on the altar upon the wood.

10 And Abraham stretched forth his hand, and took the knife to slay his son.


so who again was it that tempted abraham and asked for a human sacrifice?
yes , it was God which explains why you can see it was someone else that
told abraham to sacrifice isaac and see all the magical things that some
guy claiming to be the illuminati has shown you... ever heard about the
false prophets that the bible mentions?


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Re: Do you believe there is a ruling elite? [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #16383116 - 06/15/12 12:04 AM (10 months, 30 days ago)

That looks bad ass tho.
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Pris:  I found this video...It's short, but it might actually be the source of where crackpots get the idea that bathomet is on the dollar...





No wonder he refuses to post a pic of bathomet on the dollar.  It isn't there.





That image looks bad ass though with the eagle and pyramid like that. Gona have to use it...


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Re: Do you believe there is a ruling elite? [Re: DeadHearts]
    #16383322 - 06/15/12 12:50 AM (10 months, 30 days ago)

What about the linage of ruling classes from around the world? The "Royal families" ?  Lets step back and forget about OP's theory.  If we define the ruling elite instead as a way of thinking and acting, then there is a class of people that think they, and their group are special and choose to act accordingly. (those hush hush secret societies attached to major universities). Whether their perceived power is actual is besides the point. So i ask you is there a ruling elite?

:cookiemonster:Lets digress
But what does it even matter? Say there really is a reptile race of beings, and overlords are using subversive magic and ritual sacrifice to control your every move; the only conclusion would be you are already fucked so you might as well enjoy the ride.


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Re: Do you believe there is a ruling elite? [Re: cacharstar]
    #16383713 - 06/15/12 02:26 AM (10 months, 30 days ago)

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What about the linage of ruling classes from around the world? The "Royal families" ?





the inbred blue bloods?

we know how that turns out

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Re: Do you believe there is a ruling elite? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #16384661 - 06/15/12 12:13 PM (10 months, 30 days ago)

If you were a father, would you ever show your child the wrong way to do something? & then when he did what you told him to do? You then stop your child and correct ? This would make you a hypocrite.

JER 19 - 4:Because they have forsaken me, and have estranged this place, and have burnt incense in it unto other gods, whom neither they nor their fathers have known, nor the kings of Judah, and have filled this place with the blood of innocents;

JER 19 - 5:They have built also the high places of Baal, to burn their sons with fire for burnt-offerings unto Baal, which I commanded not, nor spake it, neither came it into my mind.



YHWH says he never once commanded man to burn their sons in sacrifice, but spoke strictly against such practices that we're already prevalent in mans current worship rituals, "YHWH never spoke it", & "it never came into his mind". So this tells me that Abraham was deceived, because Abraham the true prophet of God was in a major spiritual battle against satan/false deities and nearly lost all by offering Isaac up by satan's call and voice as told us plainly by God in Jeremiah 19:4-5, and chapter 7 of Jeremiah and in the 16th Chapter of Ezekiel our Lord God stating plainly that He never or did it come to His mind for anyone to burn their child. That is why the Lord and Messiah Jesus Christ had to come and do spiritual battle against satan and his deceptions and triumph for mankind, as said in Matthew 4th chapter.


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Re: Do you believe there is a ruling elite? [Re: treesniper119]
    #16384713 - 06/15/12 12:30 PM (10 months, 30 days ago)

This is bullshit can we move on from the bible talk crap?


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Re: Do you believe there is a ruling elite? [Re: DeadHearts]
    #16384729 - 06/15/12 12:36 PM (10 months, 30 days ago)

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This is bullshit can we move on from the bible talk crap?




Sorry bro, if you don't like it leave, in this post we are discussing a ruling elite, and conspiracy points towards the bohemian grove which has ancient ritualistic and religious ties, mentioned in the bible. GTFO if you don't wanna contribute postwhore.


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Re: Do you believe there is a ruling elite? [Re: treesniper119]
    #16384754 - 06/15/12 12:45 PM (10 months, 30 days ago)

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This is bullshit can we move on from the bible talk crap?




Sorry bro, if you don't like it leave, in this post we are discussing a ruling elite, and conspiracy points towards the bohemian grove which has ancient ritualistic and religious ties, mentioned in the bible. GTFO if you don't wanna contribute postwhore.





:lol:

You have been asked to prove this shit time and time again and have not done so. I dont believe you
have yet to explain how these rituals have anything to do with world issues. Strange as it may be its
nothing but speculation. Start making some sense if you want to be taken seriously.


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Re: Do you believe there is a ruling elite? [Re: DeadHearts]
    #16384913 - 06/15/12 01:20 PM (10 months, 30 days ago)

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This is bullshit can we move on from the bible talk crap?




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Re: Do you believe there is a ruling elite? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #16385161 - 06/15/12 02:09 PM (10 months, 30 days ago)

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What about the linage of ruling classes from around the world? The "Royal families" ?





the inbred blue bloods?

we know how that turns out

:inbred:




So you agree then that there is a mindset that a certain group of "elite" harbor? 

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I'm current illuminati,





How is that working for you?



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You have been asked to prove this shit time and time again and have not done so. I dont believe you
have yet to explain how these rituals have anything to do with world issues. Strange as it may be its
nothing but speculation. Start making some sense if you want to be taken seriously.




Dead hearts. So I assume you are not denying the existence of groups of wealthy and prominent people gathering in private to do whatever it is they do? So why do the Bilderberg type groups meet?  Do public figures  have the right to do as they please in private? Are they just having fun? What is the premise for the meet up in the first place? Are they just having a massive coke party with male hookers and clowns?:lol:  Seriously tho I can't prove a connection to these groups and policy in the world but the fact that they meet at all is cause for concern for me.


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Re: Do you believe there is a ruling elite? [Re: cacharstar]
    #16385176 - 06/15/12 02:13 PM (10 months, 30 days ago)

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So you agree then that there is a mindset that a certain group of "elite" harbor? 





Sure, if you agree that there is a mindset that a certain group of "homeless" harbor.

Middle class also has a certain mindset.

"Ruling elite" could be defined many ways.  If a person is successful and works his way up to CEO, is he now part of the ruling elite?  I assume at this point he would have the ruling elite mindset.


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Re: Do you believe there is a ruling elite? [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #16385216 - 06/15/12 02:23 PM (10 months, 30 days ago)

agreed.


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    #16385243 - 06/15/12 02:29 PM (10 months, 30 days ago)

"Niggas talk about change and working within the system to achieve that. The problem with always being a conformist is that when you try to change the system from within, it's not you who changes the system; it's the system that will eventually change you. "  --Immortal Technique


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Re: Do you believe there is a ruling elite? [Re: cacharstar]
    #16385278 - 06/15/12 02:35 PM (10 months, 30 days ago)

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Dead hearts. So I assume you are not denying the existence of groups of wealthy and prominent people gathering in private to do whatever it is they do?




No not at all.

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cacharstar said:
So why do the Bilderberg type groups meet?


 

To discuss how they can earn more money/influence.

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Do public figures  have the right to do as they please in private?




When people get arrested for taking photos of the cars when they leave I say thats
pretty fucked up and shows they could give a shit about anyone but themselves.

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What is the premise for the meet up in the first place?




Money/influence/power

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cacharstar said:
Are they just having a massive coke party with male hookers and clowns?




Im sure this happens.

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cacharstar said:
:lol:  Seriously tho I can't prove a connection to these groups and policy in the world but the fact that they meet at all is cause for concern for me.




It should be a concern for everyone. I guess my views are utopian at times but the way this world
is controlled is fucked up. There is enough resources and technology so that everyone on this planet
could be working together so that EVERYONE can have at least a simple basic life not worrying about
how they are going to eat or where they will have to sleep.

The majority of the money/power is at the top in a few hands here and there and their influence on
on the world is tremendous. Governments are obviously tied together with special groups and corpora-
tions who have control over laws and directly affect condition of life in these states. Put that all
together with modern mainstream culture/consumerism where most of the cash is and you have a pretty
fucked system. When you have as much money and power as these people do and knowing this is the world
they created while keeping the train moving is AMAZING to me. It is enough cause for concern
when these people do meet up and discuss whatever it is they discuss as they have shown me that they
are nothing more then corrupt sociopaths whos main concern is to keep the money and power in their
own hands and interests.

Now there is a lot of good in the world as well and its not all doom and gloom as many people are doing
great things out there and its only a matter of time before the winds of change are in full swing.
But its going to get worse before it gets better.


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Re: Do you believe there is a ruling elite? [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #16385288 - 06/15/12 02:36 PM (10 months, 30 days ago)

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  If a person is successful and works his way up to CEO, is he now part of the ruling elite?  I assume at this point he would have the ruling elite mindset.





Sure but its goes way beyond that. So many different variables.


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Re: Do you believe there is a ruling elite? [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #16385293 - 06/15/12 02:37 PM (10 months, 30 days ago)

I was just at a gathering last night and there were some occupy activists there.  We discussed the concept of society being a cradle or vessel for humanity. They were of the mindset that this vessel needed to be broken.  I made the point that if you are going to break this "vessel" perhaps a new one should be created first.  We then got on the idea of just taking over some BlM land and building permaculture forests all over the place. We then discussed Jamestown and Jim Jhones and digressed into drunktardness.

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    #16385332 - 06/15/12 02:46 PM (10 months, 30 days ago)

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I was just at a gathering last night and there were some occupy activists there.  We discussed the concept of society being a cradle or vessel for humanity. They were of the mindset that this vessel needed to be broken.





Occupy might be able to accomplish that.

What would "breaking the vessel" look like?  Blowing up buildings?  Breaking windows?  Blocking highways?  Bombing airplanes?  Sleeping in city parks?  Bio-terrorism attacks?  Poison gas in the subway?  Passing out flyers to people going to/coming from work?  Killing cops?  Throwing techno parties? 



 
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I made the point that if you are going to break this "vessel" perhaps a new one should be created first.




I doubt they would go that far though.


 
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We then got on the idea of just taking over some BlM land and building permaculture forests all over the place.




Hippies tried this in the 60's.  Doesn't work very well.  If you live in the middle of nowhere, where land prices are reasonable, it takes a lot of gasoline to travel to a city where there are other humans...


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Re: Do you believe there is a ruling elite? [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #16385365 - 06/15/12 02:55 PM (10 months, 30 days ago)

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it takes a lot of gasoline to travel to a city where there are other humans...




I have thought of that.  I was pondering on the jatropha tree and how much oil you could produce from it.



If the idea is thought out well enough and enough people will buy in to the new mindset, it might spread some waves.  I do agree tho that unless it is a systemic change not much will happen.


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