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#16375123 - 06/13/12 09:10 AM (11 months, 5 days ago) |
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I've set about to do a WBS grow and this what I have after the pressure cook:
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I sacrificed the one jar on a hunch and have seven others, three of which look very similar near the base of the jar. I spilled out the contents and didn't smell anything particularly foul so I don't think it was contaminated, but I'm looking for a second opinion. I inoculated three of the jars but I'm waiting on these other four. And should I be concerned about the larva? It was the only one I recovered from that jar, but I suspect there might be more.
Edited by un-known-ome (06/13/12 09:12 AM)
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Those pics are undoubtably bacteria.
And...was that worm ALIVE after PC'ing?
Definitely de-worm your spawn before cooking it.
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Lol, throw those jars out.
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Those pics are undoubtably bacteria.
And...was that worm ALIVE after PC'ing?
Definitely de-worm your spawn before cooking it.
"Dude WTF" is right! 
so dude... WTF? haha
water content fail
sterilization fail
corn in your WBS fail (you only want millet, milo, and wheat)
a WORM in your jar fail (i can't believe im addressing a worm in mycology  )
Toss em and start over ASAP (toss whole jars in trash)
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Toss em and start over ASAP (toss whole jars in trash)
Don't waste good glass! Just PC them for 90 min at 15psi, then empty em.
Tho I'm not sure OP actually PC'd them proper to begin with...hopefully he can figure it out.
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Mason jars are Quote:
FrankHorrigan said:
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a social revolt said:
Toss em and start over ASAP (toss whole jars in trash)
Don't waste good glass! Just PC them for 90 min at 15psi, then empty em.
Tho I'm not sure OP actually PC'd them proper to begin with...hopefully he can figure it out.
I'd like to salvage the jars from this botched operation if nothing else. I just picked up a pressure cooker that only operates at around 70kpa or 10psi, but I didn't think that would pose a huge problem. It unfortunately has no gauge, but I had it on the burner for 90 minutes at low/medium heat. Unless there's more to it than that?
And the larva was not alive. Furthermore, the seed mix is quite dry to the touch. Please forgive me as I've only done the PF Tek before.
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un-known-ome said:
Mason jars are Quote:
FrankHorrigan said:
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a social revolt said:
Toss em and start over ASAP (toss whole jars in trash)
Don't waste good glass! Just PC them for 90 min at 15psi, then empty em.
Tho I'm not sure OP actually PC'd them proper to begin with...hopefully he can figure it out.
I'd like to salvage the jars from this botched operation if nothing else. I just picked up a pressure cooker that only operates at around 70kpa or 10psi, but I didn't think that would pose a huge problem. It unfortunately has no gauge, but I had it on the burner for 90 minutes at low/medium heat. Unless there's more to it than that?
And the larva was not alive. Furthermore, the seed mix is quite dry to the touch. Please forgive me as I've only done the PF Tek before.
No need to apologize, mistakes happen.
Get yourself a PC that operates at 15PSI, otherwise you're never going to get away from problems like this.
When you say "no gauge," do you mean no weight (that goes on the exhaust vent) or no visible pressure readout? Because you don't need a visible pressure read out. What brand and model of PC are you using?
Also, bacterial contams will cause that "wet" look. If your grains were dry to the touch when loaded, that's what happened.
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No need to apologize, mistakes happen.
Get yourself a PC that operates at 15PSI, otherwise you're never going to get away from problems like this.
When you say "no gauge," do you mean no weight (that goes on the exhaust vent) or no visible pressure readout? Because you don't need a visible pressure read out. What brand and model of PC are you using?
Also, bacterial contams will cause that "wet" look. If your grains were dry to the touch when loaded, that's what happened.
Alright I will heed that advice on the pressure cooker. I've added an image of the pressure cooker to the album: Pics
I also bought finch mix instead on the wild notion that it would be better than standard WBS because of smaller pieces e.g. more surface area and gas exchange.
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I also bought finch mix instead on the wild notion that it would be better than standard WBS because of smaller pieces e.g. more surface area and gas exchange.
Don't experiment your first time. Follow the teks. I know it's tempting to make assumptions but there are reasons people do things the way they do.
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I also bought finch mix instead on the wild notion that it would be better than standard WBS because of smaller pieces e.g. more surface area and gas exchange.
Don't experiment your first time. Follow the teks. I know it's tempting to make assumptions but there are reasons people do things the way they do.
Yeah it was mostly a case where I set out to buy the wild bird seed and I didn't find exactly what I was looking for so I picked this up instead. But if you could help me with one last thing: does the pressure cooker in the album look right? I mean, not only is there no gauge but there's no weight either.
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FrankHorrigan said:
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un-known-ome said:
I also bought finch mix instead on the wild notion that it would be better than standard WBS because of smaller pieces e.g. more surface area and gas exchange.
Don't experiment your first time. Follow the teks. I know it's tempting to make assumptions but there are reasons people do things the way they do.
Yeah it was mostly a case where I set out to buy the wild bird seed and I didn't find exactly what I was looking for so I picked this up instead. But if you could help me with one last thing: does the pressure cooker in the album look right? I mean, not only is there no gauge but there's no weight either.
No, it won't work without a weight. The weight is what creates the pressure needed to sterilize.
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un-known-ome said:
I also bought finch mix instead on the wild notion that it would be better than standard WBS because of smaller pieces e.g. more surface area and gas exchange.
Don't experiment your first time. Follow the teks. I know it's tempting to make assumptions but there are reasons people do things the way they do.
Yeah it was mostly a case where I set out to buy the wild bird seed and I didn't find exactly what I was looking for so I picked this up instead. But if you could help me with one last thing: does the pressure cooker in the album look right? I mean, not only is there no gauge but there's no weight either.
No, it won't work without a weight. The weight is what creates the pressure needed to sterilize.
I purchased it new. I mean, the fact that it doesn't even match the image on the box is a give away. I had my suspicions...
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Wait a second, I'm retarded and didn't see the image when I looked. That might not need a weight, it looks like it has a valve built in. But if it only gets to 10psi, it won't work for your purposes.
Sorry, I'm hungover as a motherfucker this morning
Read the instructions that came with it to know how it works.
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Wait a second, I'm retarded and didn't see the image when I looked. That might not need a weight, it looks like it has a valve built in. But if it only gets to 10psi, it won't work for your purposes.
Sorry, I'm hungover as a motherfucker this morning
Read the instructions that came with it to know how it works.
Dude... I feel like he should toss the jars and all after this situation... IMO/E
Here are some good links for ya
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I've had numerous contam'd jars and no issues with the jars themselves on future grows. They get re-PC'd, washed with soapy water, dried, and then used again. 
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I've had numerous contam'd jars and no issues with the jars themselves on future grows. They get re-PC'd, washed with soapy water, dried, and then used again.
Same- I was referring to his low level of knowledge on this topic.
better safe than sorry- if you aren't sure how to PC than why take a chance with obvious contams?
Also, when you have like 50 quart jars colonizing... you obviously shouldn't care about 1 or 2 jars that don't look too good.
I'm lazy- don't like the trouble or the smell!!! lol it smells so bad re-pcing
But in his case... he should definitely toss those!
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I've had numerous contam'd jars and no issues with the jars themselves on future grows. They get re-PC'd, washed with soapy water, dried, and then used again.
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I've had numerous contam'd jars and no issues with the jars themselves on future grows. They get re-PC'd, washed with soapy water, dried, and then used again.
Same- I was referring to his low level of knowledge on this topic.
better safe than sorry- if you aren't sure how to PC than why take a chance with obvious contams?
Also, when you have like 50 quart jars colonizing... you obviously shouldn't care about 1 or 2 jars that don't look too good.
I'm lazy- don't like the trouble or the smell!!! lol it smells so bad re-pcing
But in his case... he should definitely toss those!
The link now has an image of my pressure cooker. How do I properly use it? I'm reading the manual but it's still unclear. I'm convinced that a part or parts is missing.
Edited by un-known-ome (06/13/12 12:52 PM)
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What's the brand and model? I'll check it out for ya, but I can't tell from the pic what it is.
I'm pretty sure it's not missing parts.
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