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Liberty caps UK 2012 * 1
    #16371580 - 06/12/12 05:35 PM (2 years, 1 month ago)

Today I saw my first liberty cap of 2012. Single cap on a well drained, slightly raised part of a north east facing slope, at an altitude of 1100 feet. This was after a week of cool, wet weather following a warm spell.
Summer finds are common here in north Wales, but this early is exceptional in my experience.
Has anyone else seen any yet?


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Re: Liberty caps UK 2012 [Re: t1mp5]
    #16380757 - 06/14/12 02:48 PM (2 years, 1 month ago)

I havn't seen any lately, a few weeks ago when it was raining for a fornight non-stop I found hundreds of the look-a-likes, you get some really look-a-likes that when I was walking with my brother who is egar to find some actives did not no the difference. The colours are all the same, but there is some strange 6th sense in mushroom picking that can detect look-a-likes from the real ones.


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Re: Liberty caps UK 2012 [Re: t1mp5]
    #16380884 - 06/14/12 03:18 PM (2 years, 1 month ago)

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t1mp5 said:
Today I saw my first liberty cap of 2012.




I'm very keen to believe you - but please, you know what we want! (Hint, hint)


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Re: Liberty caps UK 2012 [Re: Anglerfish]
    #16402655 - 06/19/12 11:15 AM (2 years, 1 month ago)

I know you want pictures, but sorry I'm useless at that sort of stuff. I did take a picture on my phone but it wasn't very good. I would like with hindsight to have taken a picture of it with the bluebells that were growing within a mile of it to really give authenticity to it being a late spring find.
No mistaking what I saw though, I've been finding them for over 30 years and this was clearly a mature liberty cap.
By the way, I returned to the same hillside today, and within a few metres of where I saw the specimen last week, there was a cluster of 4 pins. Again I'm 100% certain of their identity. I didn't take any photos this time, but will try to return in the next few days and try to get a picture.


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Re: Liberty caps UK 2012 [Re: t1mp5]
    #16402679 - 06/19/12 11:21 AM (2 years, 1 month ago)

well without a pic its horseshit to think you should get to start an official thread for the year!! it bugs me people are so fuckin desperate to get to make threads like that and have their name set in stone for the season. sorry to be an ass but thats just the way it has to be. no pics no official thread. :shrug:


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Re: Liberty caps UK 2012 [Re: psylosymonreturns]
    #16402704 - 06/19/12 11:29 AM (2 years, 1 month ago)

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psylosymonreturns said:
thats just the way it has to be. no pics no official thread.




:whathesaid:

Edit: You should somehow get a camera and head back where
you saw those pins, if they're already visible they should mature
quite fast. If indeed you have picked libs for the last 30 years I'd
reckon it would be quite hard for you to go wrong on the id.
Now I'm so eager to see this so... you said 'A', so you have to say 'B'!


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Re: Liberty caps UK 2012 [Re: Anglerfish]
    #16407940 - 06/20/12 10:45 AM (2 years, 1 month ago)



found these today, are any of them liberty caps?


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Re: Liberty caps UK 2012 [Re: dwaincharlton]
    #16408077 - 06/20/12 11:23 AM (2 years, 1 month ago)

Not liberty caps, looks like a mixed collection of Panaeolus and
Panaeolina sp., possibly also Agrocybe. Take some prints if
you need a more accurate id.

(On a side note, we are still waiting for the OP to dig up photos,
so until then this thread probably should be regarded as a sleeper,
despite the tantalizing title.)


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Re: Liberty caps UK 2012 [Re: Anglerfish]
    #16408324 - 06/20/12 12:32 PM (2 years, 1 month ago)

I was doubtful about most of them but the one on the left i thought might be, heres a close up. could you tell me what its called?

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Re: Liberty caps UK 2012 [Re: dwaincharlton]
    #16408445 - 06/20/12 01:00 PM (2 years, 1 month ago)

Hard to tell, I'm not at all  confident with this genus but if I have
to say something I'd say it resembles Panaeolus acuminatus. It 
would however probably turn out to be P. papilionaceus.

I might be all wrong though, try and print it and see wether it
turns out jet black or darkish brown. Could be Panaeolina sp.


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Re: Liberty caps UK 2012 [Re: Anglerfish]
    #16409249 - 06/20/12 04:28 PM (2 years, 1 month ago)

No it isn't, the stem looks too dark and brittle.


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Re: Liberty caps UK 2012 [Re: Dagnet]
    #16413113 - 06/21/12 10:05 AM (2 years, 1 month ago)

It's a Panaeolus, likely papilionaceus. Inactive.
None active in first mixed collection.


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Re: Liberty caps UK 2012 [Re: daz01]
    #16434301 - 06/25/12 06:30 AM (2 years, 29 days ago)

cheers lads. Do you know what active shrooms are about time of year. I found a list of actives for uk here http://www.shroomery.org/8461/Which-psilocybin-mushrooms-grow-wild-in-my-area but its a bit of a mission finding which are about atm


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Re: Liberty caps UK 2012 [Re: dwaincharlton]
    #16434314 - 06/25/12 06:39 AM (2 years, 29 days ago)

Not in the UK myself but you should be looking for Panaeolus cinctulus.


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Re: Liberty caps UK 2012 [Re: Anglerfish]
    #16445809 - 06/27/12 04:51 PM (2 years, 27 days ago)

Didn't manage to get back to take photos of the pins I saw last week, but have managed to get the picture of the single cap I found on 12th June to my computer.
Also found a fresh cluster today, in the same area, which I took photos of too, which I'll try to put up soon.


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Re: Liberty caps UK 2012 [Re: t1mp5]
    #16445829 - 06/27/12 04:55 PM (2 years, 27 days ago)

Here is the the cluster I found today.
Not the best of photos I'm afraid, but hopefully clear enough.



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Re: Liberty caps UK 2012 [Re: t1mp5]
    #16446398 - 06/27/12 07:05 PM (2 years, 27 days ago)

Well, I guess this is the official thread then! Nice find!
Which county did you find them in?
I might have to go for a walk this weekend.


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Re: Liberty caps UK 2012 [Re: Psilocypher]
    #16449469 - 06/28/12 07:13 AM (2 years, 26 days ago)

I found them in Montgomeryshire, but see no reason why there shouldn't be some out elsewhere at altitude. I usually find the first caps of the year over 1000feet, and more often than not on land that has been disturbed in the very distant past, places like where old buildings have been, small quarries etc. I suspect that factors like changes in aspect, slope, drainage and soil depth allow tiny areas to become ready for fruiting a few weeks earlier than the surroundings, but this is just my guess. The majority of my early season finds are on north or north east facing hillsides, but I do know a south west facing meadow that for some reason often produces in July if conditions are right.
It's so good to be out in the hills at this time of year, finding anything is just a bonus.


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Re: Liberty caps UK 2012 [Re: t1mp5]
    #16449494 - 06/28/12 07:24 AM (2 years, 26 days ago)

Nice one!:thumbup:


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Re: Liberty caps UK 2012 [Re: Anglerfish]
    #16449538 - 06/28/12 07:54 AM (2 years, 26 days ago)

I want a picture of your shrooms next to a newspaper from today so we can be sure the pictures are from now and not earlier years :wink:


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