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OfflineSWEDEN
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NY Times: Evidence White House Colluded with Big Pharma to Push Obamacare
    #16365554 - 06/11/12 02:08 PM (11 months, 4 days ago)

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Saturday, 09 Jun 2012 03:41 PM
By Patrick Hobin

A new trove of emails shows President Barack Obama’s White House agreed to help drug companies block a proposal to bring down medicine prices so they would back Obama’s healthcare plan.

House Republicans obtained the three-year-old correspondence between the Obama administration and representatives of the drug industry and released more of them to the public on Friday, The New York Times reported.

The exchanges show the compromises as they were being negotiated that laid the groundwork for the health care law now awaiting the judgment of the Supreme Court.

The Times reported that in 2009 drug industry lobbyist — concerned after weeks of talks about  a proposal for the reimportation of prescription medicines at lower prices — e-mailed White House health care adviser Nancy-Ann DeParle about the matter. 

DeParle assured the lobbyist, according to the Times, saying that athough Obama was overseas, White House officials had “made decision, based on how constructive you guys have been, to oppose importation” on a different proposal.

In the end,  the drug industry agreed to provide $80 billion to expand health coverage in exchange for protection from policies that would cost more, the Times reported.

The paper said Obama felt the deal had to be made if he was to be successful in getting his healthcare proposals — nicknamed Obamacare — accepted.

The Chicago Tribune reported that the healthcare industry agreed, as part of the plan, to funnel $70 million to two groups, Healthy Economy Now and Americans for Stable Quality Care, which were running advertisements supporting reform.

The e-mails also reveal discussions about an advertising campaign to support Obama’s health plan. “They plan to hit up the ‘bad guys’ for most of the $,” a union official wrote after an April meeting, according to the Times. “They want us to just put in enough to be able to put our names in it — he is thinking @100K.”

In another email reported by the Times, a drug industry official urged colleagues to sign a joint statement with the White House: “Rahm is already furious. The ire will be turned on us,” it said, referring to former White House chief of staff Rahm Emanuel.

The emails drew fire from Republicans who see the closed-door dealing as hypocritical.

“He said it was going to be the most open and honest and transparent administration ever and lobbyists won’t be drafting the bills,” Rep. Michael Burgess, of Texas, told the Times.

“Then when it came time, the door closed, the lobbyists came in and the bills were written.”

But Democrats hit back. Rep. Henry Waxman of California claimed there is nothing new in the emails. "The Republicans spent over a year on this investigation, received and reviewed countless documents from a dozen different organizations, and conducted multiple interviews — only to learn what was publicly reported years ago," Waxman said.



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Another nail in the coffin for politicians of every breed in this country. How much more evidence of corruption will people require?
I wish to read the entire emails for myself, but the NY Times only saw fit to publish a few lines. From what I can see the president and all his men are in cahoots with big pharma in order to make them even richer. Can't say I'm surprised, what with all the alt-news I've been reading the past few years. It is refreshing to see the Times actually found it's lost testicles.

So, what say you? Can we stop pretending now that we still live in a fair and balanced political system, and that it's time for some real change? (not ObamaChange™)


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Re: NY Times: Evidence White House Colluded with Big Pharma to Push Obamacare [Re: SWEDEN]
    #16365778 - 06/11/12 03:17 PM (11 months, 4 days ago)

I realize this is surprising to you but people are allowed to lobby the government to support their interests.


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Re: NY Times: Evidence White House Colluded with Big Pharma to Push Obamacare [Re: SWEDEN]
    #16365801 - 06/11/12 03:27 PM (11 months, 4 days ago)

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But Democrats hit back. Rep. Henry Waxman of California claimed there is nothing new in the emails. "The Republicans spent over a year on this investigation, received and reviewed countless documents from a dozen different organizations, and conducted multiple interviews — only to learn what was publicly reported years ago," Waxman said.




     


Did I just hear ol Mittons say he wants to pay for Obama care by cutting govt waste? Maybe he could help Rumsfeld find that 2.3 trillion that got lost just before 911. Wat % of our debt would 2.3 trillion be ?  Like 15% maybe ,just lost like the way you and I would lose our wallets ,by a republican led administration.


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Re: NY Times: Evidence White House Colluded with Big Pharma to Push Obamacare [Re: psilynut]
    #16365825 - 06/11/12 03:35 PM (11 months, 4 days ago)

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psilynut said:
Maybe he could help Rumsfeld find that 2.3 trillion that got lost just before 911. Wat % of our debt would 2.3 trillion be ? 



Do you have a source that 2.3 trillion was lost?  Or did you just repeat something that you saw on some wackjob conspiracy theory site?


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Re: NY Times: Evidence White House Colluded with Big Pharma to Push Obamacare [Re: psilynut]
    #16365837 - 06/11/12 03:37 PM (11 months, 4 days ago)

Mittens says he wants to get rid of Obamacare so I don't know what the fuck you're talking about.  You probably don't either.


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Re: NY Times: Evidence White House Colluded with Big Pharma to Push Obamacare [Re: Enlil]
    #16365937 - 06/11/12 03:57 PM (11 months, 4 days ago)

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Enlil said:
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psilynut said:
Maybe he could help Rumsfeld find that 2.3 trillion that got lost just before 911. Wat % of our debt would 2.3 trillion be ? 



Do you have a source that 2.3 trillion was lost?  Or did you just repeat something that you saw on some wackjob conspiracy theory site?




http://www.cbsnews.com/2100-18563_162-325985.html

"According to some estimates we cannot track $2.3 trillion in transactions," Rumsfeld admitted.



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Re: NY Times: Evidence White House Colluded with Big Pharma to Push Obamacare [Re: dynomite]
    #16365971 - 06/11/12 04:06 PM (11 months, 4 days ago)

yeah...how does that mean it's lost?  BTW...you should really quote the whole paragraph...it puts it in better context...

"The technology revolution has transformed organizations across the private sector, but not ours, not fully, not yet. We are, as they say, tangled in our anchor chain. Our financial systems are decades old. According to some estimates, we cannot track $2.3 trillion in transactions. We cannot share information from floor to floor in this building because it's stored on dozens of technological systems that are inaccessible or incompatible. "


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Re: NY Times: Evidence White House Colluded with Big Pharma to Push Obamacare [Re: SWEDEN]
    #16366470 - 06/11/12 04:06 PM (11 months, 4 days ago)

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