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deff said:
i think sometimes there's a resonance effect when this happens - where the initial 'getting upset' by being wrong is itself viewed as something wrong / to be ashamed of, so it's amplified and creates a longer chain of mental events. the same thing happens with public speaking - where if you get nervous, you then become nervous about appearing nervous, amplifying your nervousness

so if this is the case, i think one approach is instead of trying to "not care about being wrong" maybe try "not caring about caring about being wrong" - let the cares of being wrong arise on their own and liberate themselves on their own without any conscious manipulation. as soon as you try and manipulate and fix the situation, you ensnare yourself in it and it only makes things more awkward and drawn out i think.

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White Beard said:
I often have this thought, that I'm making errors, moving in the wrong direction, or saying the wrong things. Especially when I'm doing spiritual/psychological work.

For example, last night I was having a talk with my spiritual friend, someone who inspires me a lot in terms of wisdom. We were getting into interesting conversations, and each time it felt like I had a great idea going, or that I had got it, he always knows how to say the slightest thing to knock down my arrogance. I felt like I was constantly trying to impress him and say the right thing, but I really think he was just trying to be my friend with no conditions. Then every time I felt like I had a wrong idea, and he pointed it out, I took it personally. Now, this is most likely due to fear.

I often find it hard accepting that I am wrong, but I'm starting to realize I'm usually wrong. Whats the best way to take being wrong gracefully, but still work towards improving ones mind?

Perhaps I should just embrace catastrophe.

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Icelander said:
and in due time you'll see your friend floundering just as you do.

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was also thinking that.

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White Beard said:
Whats the best way to take being wrong gracefully, but still work towards improving ones mind?

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circastes said:
Intuition is where it's at.

Get involved with art, see what you're made of when you're spontaneous. Eventually even your conversations will become art.

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IMO there are two ways to have a little gusto to what you say. One where you have total faith in your accurate knowledge and one where you lose that faith completely. The former involves an endless repetition of what you've heard before forming rigid human social, moral and intellectual codes. The latter involves both repetition and diversification to really explore the markers that of what our intuition/deep psychology is percieving by allowing leeway.

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usulpsychonaut said:
Is it possible to not do the right thing? How could anyone possibly do the wrong thing? Everything that happens is exactly what is meant to happen, no matter how ghastly and horrific so how could it be wrong?

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In 2005, Swami Veda Bharati was back in Minnesota leading a retreat. Paul cleared his busy schedule to attend. During the 5-day silence meditation retreat, Paul heard the Swami Veda say something that changed everything. "All of you who studied with me in the early years, you know we had many disciplines and complicated practices to follow. Forget about them."

If Paul hadn't been in silence, He would have blurted out "WHAT!?!" Then the ultimate pearl of wisdom came from Swami Veda. "Simply drop into the silence. For 2 or 3 minutes, at any time of the day or night, simply drop into the silence."

Paul did right then and there! For 3 minutes Paul literally fell into a deep, blissfully peace-filled state of profound meditation. The silence in his mind and the calm in his body enveloped and held him in a loving embrace of transcendent and universal peace…easily as deep as any he had ever experienced. And like bathing his burning mind in a cool mountain stream, everything changed.

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