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 Whats your take on school? 
#16355600 - 06/09/12 12:20 PM (11 months, 6 days ago) |
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For people everywhere its was different. I went to a school that had strict uniforms. I smoked a bit of pot and played good sports. What your general take on it? Do they brainwash the children or actually help them?
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Re: Whats your take on school? [Re: Antonkrog]
#16355612 - 06/09/12 12:23 PM (11 months, 6 days ago) |
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Theres definitely some brainwashing going on, but I think school is a definitely a necessary part of our society. We gotz tho teach the masses
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Re: Whats your take on school? [Re: Trypppy]
#16355621 - 06/09/12 12:27 PM (11 months, 6 days ago) |
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Yeah my opinion is that its a corrupt "iluminati" type conspiracy going on to take people away from the spiritual and psychedelical experiences. Why dont they teach people about extra terrestrial life or OBE's
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Re: Whats your take on school? [Re: Antonkrog]
#16355692 - 06/09/12 12:55 PM (11 months, 6 days ago) |
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Of course ideally we would have a school system with a much more open-minded approach, but I think schools have done there part, mostly anyways. Don’t get me wrong, though, there is definitely room for some serious improvement.
What exactly would you like them to teach about extra terrestrial life and OBE’s?
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Re: Whats your take on school? [Re: Trypppy]
#16355704 - 06/09/12 12:59 PM (11 months, 6 days ago) |
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I think that public schools in america teach kids to slow....There shouldn't be different grades....Kids should have test and certain stuff that they need to know and then move forward....The stuff that is getting taught in college should start getting taught around 9th grade....
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Re: Whats your take on school? [Re: Antonkrog]
#16355736 - 06/09/12 01:06 PM (11 months, 6 days ago) |
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For people everywhere its was different. I went to a school that had strict uniforms. I smoked a bit of pot and played good sports. What your general take on it? Do they brainwash the children or actually help them?
both
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Re: Whats your take on school? [Re: Antonkrog]
#16355743 - 06/09/12 01:09 PM (11 months, 6 days ago) |
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Probably both. I am glad that I learned to read and write, but they are normalizing institutions. There is no group of evil conspirators at the top planning out what they are going to feed to the children in order to make them all exactly the same, but there are all sorts of social and moral standards embedded into the school experience. Aside from math and reading etc. a person learns how to behave while being observed constantly by the school faculty and the state.
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Re: Whats your take on school? [Re: kennedy]
#16355853 - 06/09/12 01:35 PM (11 months, 6 days ago) |
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FAR from perfect institutions imo (bordering on fucked up)
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Re: Whats your take on school? [Re: Antonkrog]
#16355973 - 06/09/12 02:03 PM (11 months, 6 days ago) |
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For people everywhere its was different. I went to a school that had strict uniforms. I smoked a bit of pot and played good sports. What your general take on it? Do they brainwash the children or actually help them?
Help them what go to fucking prison for 12 years then actually be so institutionalized willingly do another 4 year stint while piling on student loans?
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yeah I think its really fucked up that you have to wait all that time before you actually get to do something in the world
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Re: Whats your take on school? [Re: kennedy]
#16356424 - 06/09/12 04:09 PM (11 months, 6 days ago) |
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Probably both. I am glad that I learned to read and write, but they are normalizing institutions. There is no group of evil conspirators at the top planning out what they are going to feed to the children in order to make them all exactly the same, but there are all sorts of social and moral standards embedded into the school experience. Aside from math and reading etc. a person learns how to behave while being observed constantly by the school faculty and the state.
Reading and writing is so basic and can be learned without an institution. Math can be learned without an institution. Probably much faster too. Language and math are not what schools are about.
Like you said it's learning how to behave. Also how to think. It rewards blind obedience, trust and obedience in authorities. It irons out differences in individuals and produces obedient worker-drones who can't think for themselves and don't question anything. It dumbs down and standardizes the masses.
"kindergarten" means "children garden" in German. The government grows mass mediocre minds that are conditioned to accept the artifices of Society before they even enter it; and it takes much longer to mold an entire nation's youth than it does to simply teach basic subjects.
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Re: Whats your take on school? [Re: mikeisapro]
#16356458 - 06/09/12 04:16 PM (11 months, 6 days ago) |
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Authority is devastating to an undeveloped mind more times then not discover thyself
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Re: Whats your take on school? [Re: mikeisapro]
#16356527 - 06/09/12 04:30 PM (11 months, 6 days ago) |
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Probably both. I am glad that I learned to read and write, but they are normalizing institutions. There is no group of evil conspirators at the top planning out what they are going to feed to the children in order to make them all exactly the same, but there are all sorts of social and moral standards embedded into the school experience. Aside from math and reading etc. a person learns how to behave while being observed constantly by the school faculty and the state.
Reading and writing is so basic and can be learned without an institution. Math can be learned without an institution. Probably much faster too. Language and math are not what schools are about.
Like you said it's learning how to behave. Also how to think. It rewards blind obedience, trust and obedience in authorities. It irons out differences in individuals and produces obedient worker-drones who can't think for themselves and don't question anything. It dumbs down and standardizes the masses.
"kindergarten" means "children garden" in German. The government grows mass mediocre minds that are conditioned to accept the artifices of Society before they even enter it; and it takes much longer to mold an entire nation's youth than it does to simply teach basic subjects.
I was only half serious about my thankfulness to public school for my ability to read and write. People spend an obscene amount of time in K-12 to take away a very low level of education.
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Re: Whats your take on school? [Re: birdbrain92]
#16356538 - 06/09/12 04:33 PM (11 months, 6 days ago) |
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What?
Authority itself isn't bad for a developing mind, what's bad is to teach that mind not to question authority or think for itself. Accepting everything that is told or shown to it by some authority (society, a teacher, police, government, DARE) at face value, that's what's devastating.
Schools also teach to fear and respect authority of any kind, two attitudes toward authority that are control mechanisms that benefit the powerful by creating submissive masses.
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Re: Whats your take on school? [Re: mikeisapro]
#16356569 - 06/09/12 04:42 PM (11 months, 6 days ago) |
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We need to teach kids how to think for themselves at the earliest ages possible, then everything will click for them for their remaining years. All of the high schools in my area are filled with ignorance. The students here are so ignorant it annoys me. I had to take up online school so I wouldn't have to deal with it. They think so concretely, this is this and this is that. They can't analyze and guess and process information like a human should. They view everything as just having a definite answer and can't use context clues for anything. It's all about social status and impressing each other, intelligence doesn't mean anything and there is no compromise or willingness to learn. The ones who are interested in "learning" are just doing so because they fear the life they will have if they don't graduate or give themselves some kind of crutch for believing they know more than their peers. It's quite a hellhole.
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Re: Whats your take on school? [Re: mikeisapro]
#16356641 - 06/09/12 05:00 PM (11 months, 6 days ago) |
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Probably both. I am glad that I learned to read and write, but they are normalizing institutions. There is no group of evil conspirators at the top planning out what they are going to feed to the children in order to make them all exactly the same, but there are all sorts of social and moral standards embedded into the school experience. Aside from math and reading etc. a person learns how to behave while being observed constantly by the school faculty and the state.
Reading and writing is so basic and can be learned without an institution. Math can be learned without an institution. Probably much faster too. Language and math are not what schools are about.
Like you said it's learning how to behave. Also how to think. It rewards blind obedience, trust and obedience in authorities. It irons out differences in individuals and produces obedient worker-drones who can't think for themselves and don't question anything. It dumbs down and standardizes the masses.
"kindergarten" means "children garden" in German. The government grows mass mediocre minds that are conditioned to accept the artifices of Society before they even enter it; and it takes much longer to mold an entire nation's youth than it does to simply teach basic subjects.
how and by whom would you have children taught?
I think that while our school system is not without fault and needs improvement, children are better off in an environment where education is shoved in their face than in a home where parents let them watch tv all day.
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Re: Whats your take on school? [Re: Trypppy]
#16356651 - 06/09/12 05:03 PM (11 months, 6 days ago) |
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Probably both. I am glad that I learned to read and write, but they are normalizing institutions. There is no group of evil conspirators at the top planning out what they are going to feed to the children in order to make them all exactly the same, but there are all sorts of social and moral standards embedded into the school experience. Aside from math and reading etc. a person learns how to behave while being observed constantly by the school faculty and the state.
Reading and writing is so basic and can be learned without an institution. Math can be learned without an institution. Probably much faster too. Language and math are not what schools are about.
Like you said it's learning how to behave. Also how to think. It rewards blind obedience, trust and obedience in authorities. It irons out differences in individuals and produces obedient worker-drones who can't think for themselves and don't question anything. It dumbs down and standardizes the masses.
"kindergarten" means "children garden" in German. The government grows mass mediocre minds that are conditioned to accept the artifices of Society before they even enter it; and it takes much longer to mold an entire nation's youth than it does to simply teach basic subjects.
how and by whom would you have children taught?
I think that while our school system is not without fault and needs improvement, children are better off in an environment where education is shoved in their face than in a home where parents let them watch tv all day.
Guess what? Before mass schooling came to america, children were even smarter than they are now. Mass schooling was opposed by the people and was forced upon us. There were still schools before there was mass national schooling.
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Re: Whats your take on school? [Re: mikeisapro]
#16356662 - 06/09/12 05:05 PM (11 months, 6 days ago) |
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on what grounds could you possibly make the claim that kids in america used to be smarter than they are now? 
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Re: Whats your take on school? [Re: At My Peak]
#16356670 - 06/09/12 05:07 PM (11 months, 6 days ago) |
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We need to teach kids how to think for themselves at the earliest ages possible, then everything will click for them for their remaining years. All of the high schools in my area are filled with ignorance. The students here are so ignorant it annoys me. I had to take up online school so I wouldn't have to deal with it. They think so concretely, this is this and this is that. They can't analyze and guess and process information like a human should. They view everything as just having a definite answer and can't use context clues for anything. It's all about social status and impressing each other, intelligence doesn't mean anything and there is no compromise or willingness to learn. The ones who are interested in "learning" are just doing so because they fear the life they will have if they don't graduate or give themselves some kind of crutch for believing they know more than their peers. It's quite a hellhole.
The plan is for kids not to think for themselves. I will say that at least when I was in school it pretty much was a place of learning even high school. We had some very good teachers who did make you think. College paled to some of my high school teachers particularly band who was exceptional. And back then the smart kids had at least some respect although really smart kids were nerds even then. Social introverts pretty much. Bookworms. But I was doing long division in the fourth grade to eight places imagine some college kid even attempting that without his calculator nowadays. It's a joke.
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Re: Whats your take on school? [Re: Trypppy]
#16356674 - 06/09/12 05:08 PM (11 months, 6 days ago) |
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The literacy rate was slightly higher, according to a statistic I read. But mainly the fact that mass schooling is designed to dumb down the population, and it works.
Edited by mikeisapro (06/09/12 05:09 PM)
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