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Antonkrog said:
For people everywhere its was different. I went to a school that had strict uniforms. I smoked a bit of pot and played good sports. What your general take on it? Do they brainwash the children or actually help them?

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Antonkrog said:
For people everywhere its was different. I went to a school that had strict uniforms. I smoked a bit of pot and played good sports. What your general take on it? Do they brainwash the children or actually help them?

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kennedy said:
Probably both.  I am glad that I learned to read and write, but they are normalizing institutions.  There is no group of evil conspirators at the top planning out what they are going to feed to the children in order to make them all exactly the same, but there are all sorts of social and moral standards embedded into the school experience.  Aside from math and reading etc. a person learns how to behave while being observed constantly by the school faculty and the state.

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kennedy said:
Probably both.  I am glad that I learned to read and write, but they are normalizing institutions.  There is no group of evil conspirators at the top planning out what they are going to feed to the children in order to make them all exactly the same, but there are all sorts of social and moral standards embedded into the school experience.  Aside from math and reading etc. a person learns how to behave while being observed constantly by the school faculty and the state.

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Reading and writing is so basic and can be learned without an institution. Math can be learned without an institution. Probably much faster too. Language and math are not what schools are about.

Like you said it's learning how to behave. Also how to think. It rewards blind obedience, trust and obedience in authorities. It irons out differences in individuals and produces obedient worker-drones who can't think for themselves and don't question anything. It dumbs down and standardizes the masses.

"kindergarten" means "children garden" in German. The government grows mass mediocre minds that are conditioned to accept the artifices of Society before they even enter it; and it takes much longer to mold an entire nation's youth than it does to simply teach basic subjects.

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kennedy said:
Probably both.  I am glad that I learned to read and write, but they are normalizing institutions.  There is no group of evil conspirators at the top planning out what they are going to feed to the children in order to make them all exactly the same, but there are all sorts of social and moral standards embedded into the school experience.  Aside from math and reading etc. a person learns how to behave while being observed constantly by the school faculty and the state.

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Reading and writing is so basic and can be learned without an institution. Math can be learned without an institution. Probably much faster too. Language and math are not what schools are about.

Like you said it's learning how to behave. Also how to think. It rewards blind obedience, trust and obedience in authorities. It irons out differences in individuals and produces obedient worker-drones who can't think for themselves and don't question anything. It dumbs down and standardizes the masses.

"kindergarten" means "children garden" in German. The government grows mass mediocre minds that are conditioned to accept the artifices of Society before they even enter it; and it takes much longer to mold an entire nation's youth than it does to simply teach basic subjects.

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kennedy said:
Probably both.  I am glad that I learned to read and write, but they are normalizing institutions.  There is no group of evil conspirators at the top planning out what they are going to feed to the children in order to make them all exactly the same, but there are all sorts of social and moral standards embedded into the school experience.  Aside from math and reading etc. a person learns how to behave while being observed constantly by the school faculty and the state.

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Reading and writing is so basic and can be learned without an institution. Math can be learned without an institution. Probably much faster too. Language and math are not what schools are about.

Like you said it's learning how to behave. Also how to think. It rewards blind obedience, trust and obedience in authorities. It irons out differences in individuals and produces obedient worker-drones who can't think for themselves and don't question anything. It dumbs down and standardizes the masses.

"kindergarten" means "children garden" in German. The government grows mass mediocre minds that are conditioned to accept the artifices of Society before they even enter it; and it takes much longer to mold an entire nation's youth than it does to simply teach basic subjects.

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how and by whom would you have children taught?
I think that while our school system is not without fault and needs improvement, children are better off in an environment where education is shoved in their face than in a home where parents let them watch tv all day.

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At My Peak said:
We need to teach kids how to think for themselves at the earliest ages possible, then everything will click for them for their remaining years. All of the high schools in my area are filled with ignorance. The students here are so ignorant it annoys me. I had to take up online school so I wouldn't have to deal with it. They think so concretely, this is this and this is that. They can't analyze and guess and process information like a human should. They  view everything as just having a definite answer and can't use context clues for anything. It's all about social status and impressing each other, intelligence doesn't mean anything and there is no compromise or willingness to learn. The ones who are interested in "learning" are just doing so because they fear the life they will have if they don't graduate or give themselves some kind of crutch for believing they know more than their peers. It's quite a hellhole.

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