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allseeingike said:
thc is thc nothing can replace it or substitute it same with lsd and any thing else for that matter

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pfshroomer said:
Yeah I have to agree with the 25i and mushroom visuals too man..
With a high dose of 25i they are dam close,dam close!!

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im glad im not the only one 

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Rail_Gun said:
Nice! But I bet they still won't find anything better than good old THC in all those molecules.

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allseeingike said:
thc is thc nothing can replace it or substitute it same with lsd and any thing else for that matter

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there are definitely drugs that can be considered perfect substitutes. Lsd has Ald. The differences are supposed to be so incomparable that to even a novice psychonaut wouldn't be able to tell differences. Now I would never suggest psilocin as a lsd substitute, but I would definitly suggest 4-aco-dmt as one as a sub for mushrooms. 

When talking about Thc you could say hu-210(if not for the differences in potency) are two compounds that are remarkably identical in effects. I would never suggest compounds like jwh-xxx as a substitute for marijuana.

I'm sure there are arguments to be made that these can't be substitutes. So I will put what definition I'm using as "Substitute" Any drug that can be given without the takers knowledge and completely fool that user as to what drug he really took. If you can't tell that the drug you are on is substitute from the real thing, then it did a good job substituting.

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Absent Minded said:

you seem quite knowledgeable of all these new "research chemicals." That's one field I never cared much to look into - way too many, complicated names, and difficult to obtain. Do you really think it's worthwhile to get into?
I forget what forum I was in, maybe ODD, and they had a thread along the lines of "show your current goodies" and this one kid had like a gram each of K, like 10 different RCs, blotters, etc.
Seems overwhelming to me.

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just depends what you like and which ones you get into. if you're into dissociatives MXE has been REALLY hot lately. if you're into psychedelics people are talking about 4-aco-dmt and 25i-nbome a decent bit.

so yeah, if you're one of those people who likes to go explore new things then by all means RC's are great. but if you're the kind of guy whos just happy with weed/shrooms/acid or whatever then it's really not a big deal. a lot of them are slight variances of drugs that already exists. youre bound to come across some that you like and some that you don't so don't let that be a discouragement. for example i didn't think 2c-b was all that special. i'd much prefer acid. but others are saying 25i is on par with the classics. so it just depends what you try and what you like.

its not too overwhelming though. just see what people are getting into in the ODD. the most popular ones are generally the best obviously

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Real CA Milk said:
How funny! Think of all the spice blends that will be able to bypass whatever law they try to throw at us! They will HAVE To legalize it just to stop the flood of weird ass synthetic cannabinoids

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Magick said:
No, just the opposite will happen. They will pass legislation which bans drugs based on their EFFECTS, not their chemical structure.

In other words, we'll have effectual drug analogs. Those new psychedelics that come out will all be immediately banned based on a certain affinity for the 5-HT2a receptors for instance.

I've long seen it coming. It's the secret weapon of those who seek to criminalize all methods of getting 'high' or otherwise changing your mind-state. It's only a matter of time with all the new psychologically active chemicals constantly coming out at such a fast rate - the laws won't be able to keep up with banning structural analogs.

The only way that won't happen, is if the drug war ends first. I'm sorry to say, but the last time I took LSD I seem to have landed in the wrong quantum universe, that is this one, and as things stand right now, I don't see drugs as a whole being legalized any time soon.

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Rail_Gun said:
Nice! But I bet they still won't find anything better than good old THC in all those molecules.

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yes, and I still think it's over estimated. In our time on earth, with millions of chemists, researchers, what not etc. we've only discovered less then 100 elements, and less then two million molecules. Now it's theorised that it's possibly to create another hundred million? Well I suppose it's possible, but I doubt it exists. In the universe it may be possibly to create another few hundred million molecules, but the conditions for probably just a few million of those molecules are only possible here on earth. The conditions for the other molecules may be present on other planets, and may them self be possible to create synthetically here on earth, but how many of them aren't poisonous to a human body, and how many are active psycho actively or medically?

That being said, the potential for new and undiscovered drugs is, hundreds, thousands of possibilities that we have not heard of or discovered yet. Going to be a lot of lab rats this shit will be tested on don't know if that bothers anybody