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 LittleDipster
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 Melatonin 
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I love the stuff. As far as helping my sleep goes, it does alright. It feels very natural, but I find it'll wake me up randomly throughout the night which is never a problem because I find it easy falling back to sleep. It makes me wake up feeling refreshed and like I just slept 8+ hours even if it was only 4-6.
When it comes to dreaming though, this stuff is insane. It took maybe a week or two of taking it every night (usually 6mg) before the dreams became really intense and vivid. I would find myself completely immersed in my dreams, lucid maybe, but I had little control of them.
Let me explain some of my experiences though; these were dreams where sometimes I wouldn't even be in my body floating and bouncing off the top of the ceiling, and most of them I had the ability to just jump up and fly around my neighborhood or so high that I could see mountains and the ocean,while simultaneously "feeling" the grounds/roads beneath me.
Sometimes I would "pop" through a video-game type 3-dimensional space into a more 2-dimensional multicolored video-game style setting but still be able to travel in 3-dimensions. In one of these video-game type dreams I was killed by a demon character who stabbed me with a drill through the chest and as I was dying I looked up and saw a skyrim style dragon staring me in the face then saw myself (just above myself) as a head with bat wings which rose me into an even more colorful and multi-dimensional plane where I was no longer a being but just spread out through this plane. I also had one where I traveled to a middle east looking country called "kaav" following a river through some mountains and found these beautiful girls which I interacted and flirted with and had a great time. These are just some of my typical dreams after letting the melatonin get in my system. Sometimes it'd feel as if I was dreaming for hours, and the setting would transition without me even knowing.
As far as my experience with psychedelics goes, nothing has even began to come close to these experiences. As far as my waking state goes after I have slept on melatonin, I find the next day I am slightly more "psychic" it seems. I can't tell the future or anything but I am able to "feel" my thoughts and other people's thoughts being transmitted through our brains. It's just really some crazy stuff.
Does anyone else get extremely vivid/psychedelic dreams from this or am I the only one?
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 RonaldFuckingPaul
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As far as dreams go melatonin is pretty intense and strange.
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Ghostwriter
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Yes I too get strange and vivid borderline lucid dreams. I feel like I have a tolerance building to with it too though.
I don't want to take too much for sleeping because I heard that it causes reverse reactions or something along those lines..
I notice if you stop taking it after a while you also get some crazy ass dreams. I love that it helps me sleep too but I know what yu mean about waking up randomly and falling back asleep. I usually get emerged right back into the same dream also. That's kinda where the lucidness comes into play for me. Like if I wake up and realize how weird and bizarre I was dreaming I usually can fall right back asleep and go back into that same dream with a more clear head and lucid feeling too it. Idk 
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Rail_Gun
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Melatonin only worked for me for about a week or week and a half. Then the rebound insomnia is awful and much worse than the original insomnia. My long term solution is Trazadone. That has not lost it's effect in the years I've been on it.
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BeefheartisBetter
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Read this thread about 4 hours ago and realized I had some Melatonin available to me.
I took 3mg and just woke up, and just like you said I feel like I've slept 8 hours.
Had a crazy dream which started with me having a panic attack at school( Haven't been
in school in 5 years.) and ended with Captain Beefheart falling off my school while trying
to climb the school walls after 2 little kids had climbed up them to the roof.
I understand Melatonin occurs naturally, but is there any health risk to taking it
every night for long periods of time?
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 tymoteusz3
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Melatonin is strange for dreams, but piracetam is even stranger :P
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LittleDipster
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Haven't really looked into the reverse insomnia and all that. I can't really say for sure if I have had the rebound insmomnia. For me I can still have vivid dreams even weeks after using it, and as far as health affects go I just did a half-assed google search and found this.
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If you're considering taking melatonin supplements, check with your doctor first — especially if you have any health conditions. The correct dose depends on the intended use. For example, circadian rhythm sleep disorders are often treated with 0.5 milligrams of melatonin a day, while doses of 3 to 5 milligrams a day might be used to treat jet lag or reduce the time it takes to fall asleep. In addition, remember that melatonin is generally recommended only for short-term use — up to two months. Some research indicates that longer term use might be appropriate in certain cases, however.
So it seems like it is relatively safe for using for extended periods of time (weeks to months) but I would bet it wouldn't be great for you if you used it every night for years.
Also, have ya'll seen how close melatonin is structurally to DMT?
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LittleDipster
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Quote:
tymoteusz3 said:
Melatonin is strange for dreams, but piracetam is even stranger :P
oh really 
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spiritguru
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Melatonin, Valerian root and vitamin B6= Extremely crazy, lucid, vivid recallable dreams
Antidepressant Remeron(Mirtazapine)= Extremely lucid, long fucked up dreams.
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sirdonut
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yea dude, I've been drinking a lot of this stuff:
tart cherries have naturally occurring melatonin & this organic concentrate roxxxx.
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LittleDipster
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Quote:
spiritguru said:
Melatonin, Valerian root and vitamin B6= Extremely crazy, lucid, vivid recallable dreams
Antidepressant Remeron(Mirtazapine)= Extremely lucid, long fucked up dreams.
when I was younger I was on paxil( evil, evil, shit.) and not knowing the consequences of combining SSRI's with MAOI's, I had taken some yohimbe to get me stimulated so I could stay up through the day, and that night I had taken my usual 3-6 mg of melatonin to get to sleep.
Let me tell you, that dreaming experience it induced was the most wild fucked up vivid shit I can't even begin to describe it. I haven't smoked DMT or broken through on salvia, but the experience I had is exactly what I would imagine it to be if you combined them both.
Also, I just started taking Valerian Root and B6 with my melatonin, so it will be interesting to see what the synergistic effects of those substances are.
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Midnight_Toker
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Does anyone find that melatonin, valerian root, vitamin B6 or any other herbs give them more intense dreams on the first night of taking them? Also what other things (besides SSRIs) do you guys like to take that works to increase dream intensity?
I get really vivid dreams if I smoke weed for a few days and then stop. I still remember a lot of my dreams but I have been slacking in writing them down lately. Keeping a dream journal helps your dream recall quite a lot. It also helps to be able to spot recurring themes or patterns in your dreams, which are good to know about when trying to achieve lucidity.
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