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 Mateo
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 Re: First grow in a loong time  [Re: Ego Questio]
#16514174 - 07/11/12 02:31 PM (10 months, 2 days ago) |
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But if you have grown a ton of scletoria, why don't you take the remaining ryegrains (after sorting the big stones out) and just put it in a tray, cover with a thin casinglayer of sterilized soil or verm, put in your FC and viola....
I have done exacly this and have right now a tray with P.Galindoi ATL#7 mushrooms.
And, the P.Mexicana fruits are one of the best quality of shrooms you can consume.
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Wallflower
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Re: First grow in a loooong time--poor flushes, any ideas chaps.? [Re: Ego Questio]
#16527634 - 07/13/12 10:32 PM (10 months, 10 hours ago) |
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Is your avatar by Evan Yi Feng?
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Ego Questio
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Re: First grow in a loooong time--poor flushes, any ideas chaps.? [Re: Wallflower]
#16549300 - 07/18/12 01:49 PM (9 months, 26 days ago) |
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Quote:
Mateo said:
But if you have grown a ton of scletoria, why don't you take the remaining ryegrains (after sorting the big stones out) and just put it in a tray, cover with a thin casinglayer of sterilized soil or verm, put in your FC and viola....
Because I'm a muppet sir.  Have never done a bulk grow before (although I'm considering it seriously after this grow). I always considered crumbled grain to be instantly unsterile, so after I'd sifted out the stones, I'd always dumped the grain.
Yeah...I know... 
Have got some holidays coming up, so I'm gonna be setting up grows galore to see me through-once I have the time. 
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Wallflower said:
Is your avatar by Evan Yi Feng?
Moi.? Nah, buddy, is Bill Hicks, the man.
Me second flush is continuing sporadically, with one or two large shrooms and a couple of little ones, but only a couple of cakes are pinning at the mo:
  
Still, the dry weight's slowly creeping up, and there's quite a few small shrooms on these two cakes-if only the flush prolific... 
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chaka333
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Re: First grow in a loong time [Re: Ego Questio]
#16549448 - 07/18/12 02:36 PM (9 months, 26 days ago) |
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damn that cake looks soo tasty!!
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Ego Questio
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Re: First grow in a loong time [Re: chaka333]
#16554457 - 07/19/12 03:00 PM (9 months, 25 days ago) |
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Up to 8.9g dry weight.
Edging closer to that magic 12g. 
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Mateo
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Re: First grow in a loong time [Re: Ego Questio]
#16555763 - 07/19/12 08:00 PM (9 months, 25 days ago) |
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If you have some Jars with sclerotia stones, just sort the bigger stones out of the grains wearing some rubber gloves.
Put the remaining grains in a tray or plasic container and cover with 1 cm plantsoil or cocochoir.
Mist it wet and put in fruiting chamber.
Nothing more to it, just wait.
Shrooms will come soon.
Piece of cake..
/Mateo
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Ego Questio
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Re: First grow in a loong time [Re: Mateo]
#16559079 - 07/20/12 11:21 AM (9 months, 24 days ago) |
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Nice one buddy.
I'm due to steralise some grain this weekend, so I reckon I'm gonna do 4 pints each of Psilocybe galindoi and Psilocybe Atlantis. Well try growing them out for a few months with some luscious stones, then spawn them to coir / verm.
I'm also considering doing another four pints of grain for some more cubies and doing a monotub setup too.
It's time now.
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Ego Questio
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Re: First grow in a loong time [Re: Ego Questio]
#16564199 - 07/21/12 02:16 PM (9 months, 23 days ago) |
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Got a lovely pinset on one cake, but I think they're getting ready to open up-has been some noticable lightening and flattening over the last 24 hours.
Another cake has a load of pins around the bottom, but I fear they've stalled. No size increase in days.
Ah, well. 
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PocketRevolution
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Few growers use an "incubator" anymore. The higher temperature skews toward the growth of bacteria, and produces more metabolites. In fact, this could potentially be the reason for the in-vitro pinning: elevated levels of metabolites, or a reaction to the presence of bacteria. Most people colonize at room temperature...it does take a tiny bit longer, but results tend to be better.
Back when I was growing, I often colonized at rather cool temperatures. It slows down colonization, but the slower-growing mycelium seems to be stronger and more robust once it finishes...and if you manage your mycelium correctly, you'll still be able to keep your terrarium full all the time, so slower colonization doesn't really present a downside. Honestly, I found myself at times trying to SLOW colonization to finish up what I already had fruiting before I had to move new stuff into the terrarium.
Another thing I was messing around with a bit before I had to pack it in was something I called "dry shocking". Basically all that means is that immediately after birthing, you mist the substrate until it is wet on the outside, then place it in open air and allow that water to evaporate. Then mist again. I wouldn't do this for more than a day before heading into the fruiting chamber, but it was my belief that this accelerated evaporation from the surface of the substrate stimulates pinning (100% FAE doesn't hurt either). Don't let it dry out completely...you just want massive evaporation from the surface.
I didn't see you mention your lighting. Ample 6500K light is very important.
Finally, I would pin down what exactly is causing your low yield with the cakes before switching to another method. Cakes work. You don't want to transfer your problem to a new grow, and have that not work out either. Once your cakes are performing well, then move to a more complicated method.
Congrats on the full colonization, and obtaining fruits. It might not be as much as you were hoping for, but at least you're having success. It's better than the average.
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 Oeric McKenna
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Sounds cooll^
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Ego Questio
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You raise a good point with the incubator buddy. A few peeps have mentioned it in previous grows as a possible weakness in my setup. Thing is, I suffer very variable temperatures, and am currently living in a shittily insulated house.
Now I've hit summer, is not so bad, but come winter, temps are ridiculous. I've had jars show slow or no growth, and often stall completely.
A moderate incubator solves that. I think it's worth the risk..?
I tend to just use daylight buddy, I'm far too ghetto in my grow to hook up a light system. I could, I'm just not gonna. 
Third and probably final flush out of these babies:
  
I think we're easily at the 12g mark now, and plan to be taking them Saturday night with me girl and a friend or two.
Is all I wanted 'em for, so happy days, Mission Accomplished.
I like the look of the gnarly fat bastard in the one shot-I think he's mine. I shall name him..Eduardo.!
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Over one's mind and over one's body the individual is sovereign.
John Stuart Mill, On Liberty
(1806 - 1873)
My UPDATED UK supplies thread
My first trip report-sclerotia
Fundamentalchair's Sclerotia FAQ
This makes me a sad panda Marijuana Conspiracy
Proudly discovered Highly Sensitive Person ~2009
To all you good gents, I say
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Doc_T
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Re: Recommend against incubator [Re: Ego Questio]
#16659010 - 08/07/12 09:07 AM (9 months, 6 days ago) |
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It gets cold here in the winter.
So I use an incubation chamber, an unpowered incubator.
Big styrofoam cooler full of grain jars. And one jar of warm water in the middle.
I take the jar out and warm it in the microwave about once a day.
For new growers, incubators are not good.
For an experienced grower, it may be a useful too.
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