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DRILLING HOLES ON BOTTOM OF SGFC
    #16320848 - 06/02/12 09:43 AM (11 months, 13 days ago)

i was told to drill holes on all six sides including the bottom, well when i was using this container with no holes on the bottom before this, so i tried holes on the bottom,,, LMAOOOOOO i wanna hit someone now!!!
thanks for leaking water all over my floors!!!!!  and i think i just ruined this container, i sure hope glue will hold in the holes, the perlite was totally drained, and everytime i lightly misted my cakes the water traveled to the bottom somehow and ended up leaking , man i sure hope mold does not grow now underneath my carpet!!!!!! i put everything back in a container with no holes on the bottom, my humidity seems to be the same, i will keep updating this post to let you all know if there is any differnce with holes on the bottom or not,.

INSTEAD OF DRILLING HOLES ON THE BOTTOM,. i am now going to drill holes on the bottom inch of the tub on the sides, so any water wont leak out . this will still allow fresh air to travel into the perlite and create humidity, because the perlite is about 4 inches high. 


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Re: DRILLING HOLES ON BOTTOM OF SGFC [Re: cool]
    #16320862 - 06/02/12 09:51 AM (11 months, 13 days ago)

doesn't sound like it was properly drained fella

if hundreds of people have used sgfcs with holes in the bottom (which increased air circulation/ evaporation and humidity) the problem isn't with holes in the bottom.

hope it goes well though. what do you call light misting? a pint of water?


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Re: DRILLING HOLES ON BOTTOM OF SGFC [Re: keeno]
    #16320864 - 06/02/12 09:52 AM (11 months, 13 days ago)

no it was deffinitly drained,,, and also, it kept re leaking after each misting, it had to have been drained to stop leaking from the previous leak.


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Re: DRILLING HOLES ON BOTTOM OF SGFC [Re: cool]
    #16320865 - 06/02/12 09:54 AM (11 months, 13 days ago)

Standing water is bad! u need holes all over your sgfc.. use a big mono tub lid under your sgfc.
LOOK in my pics there's one of a sgfc that's perfect..


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Re: DRILLING HOLES ON BOTTOM OF SGFC [Re: stoneded420]
    #16320871 - 06/02/12 09:57 AM (11 months, 13 days ago)

yea well im about to proove that you do not need holes on the bottom  side of your container, you can do the same thing ( introduce fresh air into the perlite layer) by dilling holes in the bottom inch of the sides of the containers.  the water wont be standing for long, it seems as it is resoaked up by the perlite once it starts to dry out.  good idea though with the lids underneath.


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Re: DRILLING HOLES ON BOTTOM OF SGFC [Re: stoneded420]
    #16320873 - 06/02/12 09:57 AM (11 months, 13 days ago)

1/4" holes every two inches all the way around all six sides. :thumbup:


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Re: DRILLING HOLES ON BOTTOM OF SGFC [Re: Doc_T]
    #16320882 - 06/02/12 10:00 AM (11 months, 13 days ago)

by doing the method i recommend, you are now able to stack containers on top of each other also without having to seperate them for air flow.


by the way, i consider light misting to be just a light sprays of water directly over the cake to make it "shiny" and thats it.


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Re: DRILLING HOLES ON BOTTOM OF SGFC [Re: cool]
    #16320891 - 06/02/12 10:04 AM (11 months, 13 days ago)

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INSTEAD OF DRILLING HOLES ON THE BOTTOM,. i am now going to drill holes on the bottom inch of the tub on the sides, so any water wont leak out . this will still allow fresh air to travel into the perlite and create humidity, because the perlite is about 4 inches high. 




My advice:

Don't modify the Tek man.  The PF Tek is tried and true.  Follow the Tek and you CANNOT fail. 

If you go on like this with no holes in the bottom you are gonna end up with piss poor air exchange, dry ass perlite along the edges of the container, standing water under the perlite everywhere else, and worst of all FRUITLESS cakes spreading fuzzy aerial mycelium to the heavens!  You were told to drill holes in the bottom of the SGFC for a reason.....It works!  Don't modify the Tek until you realize how it all works, then when you understand it better you can get creative.

Good Luck Brother  :thumbup:


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Re: DRILLING HOLES ON BOTTOM OF SGFC [Re: cool]
    #16320893 - 06/02/12 10:05 AM (11 months, 13 days ago)

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by doing the method i recommend,




Which you just made up and are talking about without testing, if I understand what's going on.
right? Got frustrated drilling all those holes and decided you knew better then everybody else?
Follow the tek. Do it like the tek. You want it to work just like in the tek, right?

also, that^^^.


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Re: DRILLING HOLES ON BOTTOM OF SGFC [Re: SapphiredUp]
    #16320897 - 06/02/12 10:05 AM (11 months, 13 days ago)

:whathesaid: preach it!


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Re: DRILLING HOLES ON BOTTOM OF SGFC [Re: cool]
    #16320901 - 06/02/12 10:06 AM (11 months, 13 days ago)

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yea well im about to proove that you do not need holes on the bottom  side of your container, you can do the same thing ( introduce fresh air into the perlite layer) by dilling holes in the bottom inch of the sides of the containers.  the water wont be standing for long, it seems as it is resoaked up by the perlite once it starts to dry out.  good idea though with the lids underneath.




FYI, perlite does not hold water, nor does it soak any up.  Perlite only traps the water to its surface with all its little nooks and crannys.

Also, the middle of your GC will not get adequate humidity flow, just the outside corners will.


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Re: DRILLING HOLES ON BOTTOM OF SGFC [Re: cool]
    #16320913 - 06/02/12 10:13 AM (11 months, 13 days ago)

99 percent humidity is 99 percent humidity no matter what way you slice it, if im getting 99 percent humidtity with no holes on the bottom, what is your theory now???


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Re: DRILLING HOLES ON BOTTOM OF SGFC [Re: deadtime]
    #16320919 - 06/02/12 10:20 AM (11 months, 13 days ago)

your hygrometer is fucked up? haha

idk, I think the bottom holes give it longevity, but I'll let the experts chime in with their take on it

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Re: DRILLING HOLES ON BOTTOM OF SGFC [Re: cool]
    #16320921 - 06/02/12 10:20 AM (11 months, 13 days ago)

sound like your :trollersgonnatroll:


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Re: DRILLING HOLES ON BOTTOM OF SGFC [Re: cool]
    #16320924 - 06/02/12 10:22 AM (11 months, 13 days ago)

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99 percent humidity is 99 percent humidity no matter what way you slice it, if im getting 99 percent humidtity with no holes on the bottom, what is your theory now???




listen Cool, you do what you want but I thought you were here for advice.  Humidity isn't the end all be all in the cultivation world.  And my "theory" is that if you don't drill the holes in the bottom you LOSE.  Its not a shotgun chamber if there aren't holes in all 6 sides.  Im not saying it can't work but you are handicapping yourself from Jump Street.  Centuries of experience on this site preaches the PF Tek to noobs because if you follow the Tek you can't fail. 

Hope you like eating aerial mycelium 'cause you're gonna grow more of that than any fruits.

Good Luck Brother  :thumbup:


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Re: DRILLING HOLES ON BOTTOM OF SGFC [Re: SapphiredUp]
    #16320940 - 06/02/12 10:27 AM (11 months, 13 days ago)

i had to make a saucer out of tin foil for a few cakes to sit in, somehow theese cakes are loosing weight when i pick them up, but the vermiculite does not really dry out,,,, whats going on????!!?!?


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Re: DRILLING HOLES ON BOTTOM OF SGFC [Re: cool]
    #16320954 - 06/02/12 10:30 AM (11 months, 13 days ago)

Why don't you tell us?  You seem to know more than those giving their opinions anyway

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Re: DRILLING HOLES ON BOTTOM OF SGFC [Re: cool]
    #16320976 - 06/02/12 10:44 AM (11 months, 13 days ago)

i have a window air conditioner in this bedroom , i refuse to believe that it is drying out my container, i moved it to the other side of the room now and now im noticing water droplets are staying on the walls of my containers 24/7 except for mabee where the light is,


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Re: DRILLING HOLES ON BOTTOM OF SGFC [Re: cool]
    #16320985 - 06/02/12 10:53 AM (11 months, 13 days ago)

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i have a window air conditioner in this bedroom , i refuse to believe that it is drying out my container, i moved it to the other side of the room now and now im noticing water droplets are staying on the walls of my containers 24/7 except for mabee where the light is,





It'll be okay, make your terrarium how you want to if you don't believe in the tek works.

Some people use glass aquariums with NO HOLES IN IT. So dont drill holes in the bottom if you dont want too. :shrug:

Just be sure to use distilled water to soak the perlite since there will be standing water in your FC which could promote contamination.
I'd personally resoak the perlite and clean the FC for the second and third flush etc...

Good Luck and be sure to fan, a lot. :thumbup:

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Re: DRILLING HOLES ON BOTTOM OF SGFC [Re: cool]
    #16320996 - 06/02/12 10:55 AM (11 months, 13 days ago)

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if im getting 99 percent humidtity with no holes on the bottom, what is your theory now???




Lack of FAE. You won't see pins.


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