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    #16312102 - 05/31/12 05:17 PM (2 years, 4 months ago)



the trinidad scorpions have yellowing leaves but i doubt its a nitrogen deficiency. i think its iron deficiency but have looked around and nothing is definite.

the e novos have leaf curl. they were given miracle gro fertilizer at a very diluted ratio. nothing significant really.

i'm stumped.:confused: anybody got a clue?


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Re: plant problems [Re: ferrel_human]
    #16312126 - 05/31/12 05:24 PM (2 years, 4 months ago)

I wouldn't use miracle gro it always seems to wilt plants, give it some fox farm nutrients and it should be good to go. :smile: Trust me! http://www.walmart.com/ip/FoxFarm-Nutrient-Trio-Soil-Formula-Liquid-Fertilizer/19684944


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Re: plant problems [Re: 5is]
    #16312168 - 05/31/12 05:39 PM (2 years, 4 months ago)

thats good stuff. i know that. i use miracle gro on almost anything and everything.

i must also  mention that i had an aphid infestation one of the trinidads and my gardenia.

solved that with a little insecticidal soap.all the leaves fell off the trinidad but it is regrowing them into that ugly picture.


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Re: plant problems [Re: ferrel_human]
    #16312201 - 05/31/12 05:47 PM (2 years, 4 months ago)

I also see bubbling in the leaves,which my Psychotria is suffering from.Hell it actually looks just like what you're experiencing.I'm not sure what it is though?As for miracle grow,I've used it since the 90's on all my plants,including Cannabis,and it is just as good as all those over priced fertilizers that people swear by,because they all consist of the same damn stuff!I actually got some fox farm free from a buddy,and did an experiment with two of the same plants,and the miracle grow actually out performed the fox farm:grin:


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Re: plant problems [Re: KBG1977]
    #16312316 - 05/31/12 06:13 PM (2 years, 4 months ago)

i hate tHAT i cant give them what they need. i have only a few peppers left to make salsa with then thats it. i'm out.

i got about 36 trinidad sproutlings and i know there are many more on the way.


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Re: plant problems [Re: ferrel_human]
    #16312421 - 05/31/12 06:34 PM (2 years, 4 months ago)

Shit,at least you have some peppers!I probably wont be seeing any until fall,as small as all mine are:-(


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Re: plant problems [Re: KBG1977]
    #16312518 - 05/31/12 06:56 PM (2 years, 4 months ago)

Could it be a magnesium deficiency?

Bear with me now, this is an old wives tale I have followed when growing my tomato and pepper plants.  What I was "taught" was to add a teaspoon of Epson salts to the bottom of my hole when I initially planting the to protect against the blight: along with an occasional watering with a teaspoon of Epson salts to prevent curling and yellowing leaves.  I watered them once a month with this solution. This method has never really let me down with regular garden tomatoes and peppers.

Good luck! I would love to try my luck with scorpion peppers!

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Re: plant problems [Re: haptic717]
    #16313022 - 05/31/12 08:47 PM (2 years, 4 months ago)

Feed them some calcium and magnesium...hold off the watering will help and will make them hot....:ifyoucanawe:


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Re: plant problems [Re: Brainiac]
    #16313066 - 05/31/12 08:56 PM (2 years, 4 months ago)

Seaweed extract.


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Re: plant problems [Re: nicechrisman]
    #16313121 - 05/31/12 09:07 PM (2 years, 4 months ago)

Ferrel are you feeding the peppers full strength miracle grow ferts if not I would and also give them a good dose of seasole or simular seaweed solution

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Re: plant problems [Re: GoOnThen]
    #16315649 - 06/01/12 09:51 AM (2 years, 4 months ago)

thanks guys.

i gave them iron ferts. i got some epsom salt and i will use that too.

looks like the older leaves on the trinidad are greening up.

not as fast as the bag says but you know how advertisements go.

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Re: plant problems [Re: ferrel_human]
    #16316274 - 06/01/12 12:45 PM (2 years, 4 months ago)

Don't forget the calcium......!

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Re: plant problems [Re: Brainiac]
    #16316427 - 06/01/12 01:10 PM (2 years, 4 months ago)

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Don't forget the calcium......!




Brainiac,

What have you used to raise the calcium levels of your plants??  I tend to save my egg shells and. crush them into a fine powder with a pestle and mortar,  then sprinkle said powder around my plants. I know they contain calcium carbonate (CaCO3),  but I have never got a straight answer on the percentage of CaCO3... 

Just curious is all (sorry to hijack the thread ferrel)

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Re: plant problems [Re: 5is]
    #16316485 - 06/01/12 01:20 PM (2 years, 4 months ago)

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I wouldn't use miracle gro it always seems to wilt plants, give it some fox farm nutrients and it should be good to go. :smile: Trust me! http://www.walmart.com/ip/FoxFarm-Nutrient-Trio-Soil-Formula-Liquid-Fertilizer/19684944





+1

There are plenty other nutrients out there.

I can not remember the name but it is in lowes with in a white jug and a yellow top.

This company also makes root power for cloning.

The nutes must be mixed with water in the correct ratio on the instructions.

It is more work but I've always had extreme success with my jalepenos.

Or maybe mixing my own nutes is more of a ritualistic thing.

When I neglected to water one hot summer I mixed two tablespoons of root power in a gallon of water. The watered the soil heavily. They recovered in 2 days and took off again.

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Re: plant problems [Re: haptic717]
    #16316752 - 06/01/12 02:10 PM (2 years, 4 months ago)

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Don't forget the calcium......!




Brainiac,

What have you used to raise the calcium levels of your plants??  I tend to save my egg shells and. crush them into a fine powder with a pestle and mortar,  then sprinkle said powder around my plants. I know they contain calcium carbonate (CaCO3),  but I have never got a straight answer on the percentage of CaCO3... 

Just curious is all (sorry to hijack the thread ferrel)

:cheers:




its cool. i have lots of eggshells and was talking to a shroomerite about it.

he said eggshells are just really a waste unless you have a sure fire way of grinding them up so fine they actually dissolve in water. other than that its impossible for them to breakdown and plants to consume it.

anyone else care to rebuttal?


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Re: plant problems [Re: ferrel_human]
    #16316926 - 06/01/12 02:45 PM (2 years, 4 months ago)

You can buy calcium at a grow store /online.... Comes in og omrl... Calplex by Organicare


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Re: plant problems [Re: Brainiac]
    #16316947 - 06/01/12 02:49 PM (2 years, 4 months ago)

use diluted milk,just make sure later on you go out,and flush some fresh water through it,so it doesn't smell.I did this not knowing if it would work or not,but it turns out it's great for plants and The main fertilizer components of milk are calcium and phosphorus:-)


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Re: plant problems [Re: KBG1977]
    #16317021 - 06/01/12 03:04 PM (2 years, 4 months ago)

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use diluted milk,just make sure later on you go out,and flush some fresh water through it,so it doesn't smell.I did this not knowing if it would work or not,but it turns out it's great for plants and The main fertilizer components of milk are calcium and phosphorus:-)




dude you read my mind.

i thought about this but decided not to ask about milk thinking people were gonna be like :dudewtf:


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Re: plant problems [Re: ferrel_human]
    #16317029 - 06/01/12 03:05 PM (2 years, 4 months ago)

really, i think its been too hot lately. if i could get an indoor setup that would help out greatly.

though my wife would never allow because she knows what i would be tempted to grow. :Awesketch:


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Re: plant problems [Re: Brainiac]
    #16317049 - 06/01/12 03:09 PM (2 years, 4 months ago)

compost and compost tea are great. If you get it right you may not have to fertilize at all.


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    #16317071 - 06/01/12 03:12 PM (2 years, 4 months ago)

you know, that is one thing i have not used this year at all.

compost may make the difference.

i got to tweek everything for different plants.


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    #16317153 - 06/01/12 03:26 PM (2 years, 4 months ago)

Actinomycetes
This is what you want in your compost pile.My piles are full of it.
Compost will turn any soil into good soil and its harder to get nutrient burn.
Keeps harmful bacteria and bug larvae from getting in there. you'll get better quality nitrogen uptake.
foliar spray with compost tea will help prevent diseases.

My 100 plant veggie garden had compost tilled in the soil and I haven't fertilized at all and my plants are perky looking monsters with no yellowing whatsoever.

If you have clay soil it will unlock other micronutrients as well that your plants look like they need.


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    #16317194 - 06/01/12 03:33 PM (2 years, 4 months ago)

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use diluted milk,just make sure later on you go out,and flush some fresh water through it,so it doesn't smell.I did this not knowing if it would work or not,but it turns out it's great for plants and The main fertilizer components of milk are calcium and phosphorus:-)




dude you read my mind.

i thought about this but decided not to ask about milk thinking people were gonna be like :dudewtf:




So,did you use it:-)


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    #16317202 - 06/01/12 03:34 PM (2 years, 4 months ago)

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use diluted milk,just make sure later on you go out,and flush some fresh water through it,so it doesn't smell.I did this not knowing if it would work or not,but it turns out it's great for plants and The main fertilizer components of milk are calcium and phosphorus:-)




dude you read my mind.

i thought about this but decided not to ask about milk thinking people were gonna be like :dudewtf:




So,did you use it:-)




nope. but i was thinking about it.


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    #16317219 - 06/01/12 03:37 PM (2 years, 4 months ago)

Well,couldn't hurt:-)


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    #16317536 - 06/01/12 04:36 PM (2 years, 4 months ago)

i crushed the egg shells to a super fine powder. got epsom salts and threw that into the mix.

i burnt out my blender. what a waste of $40. i guess i'll have to buy a new one.

added the powder to several plants 2 of which are my trinidads.

i left the e novos alone as they seem to be just fine.

lets see what happens.

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Re: plant problems [Re: ferrel_human]
    #16317764 - 06/01/12 05:26 PM (2 years, 4 months ago)

coffee bean grinders work better than a blender for stuff like that, i've burnt up 2 grinders grinding up pachanoi they aren't made for continuous use but work well to powder hard stuff like eggshells. good luck with your plants when i see yellow leaves i assume iron right away as well i didn't post because i know there are other deficiencies than iron that cause yellowing


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    #16318399 - 06/01/12 07:30 PM (2 years, 4 months ago)

What kind ofcactus nutes u got


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    #16319020 - 06/01/12 09:56 PM (2 years, 4 months ago)

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i got miracle grow.

its for everytime you water.

and as most of you know, this shit will last til i'm 60.

maybe my son will inherit the bottle.


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    #16319485 - 06/01/12 11:19 PM (2 years, 4 months ago)

woad there partner,you use miracle grow every time you water?What kind do you use,because I know if I did that my plants would be crispy twigs,hahaha!Mine can only take a weekly does,and sometimes bi weekly.


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    #16319519 - 06/01/12 11:27 PM (2 years, 4 months ago)

Ferrel which miracle grow are you using for your peppers

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I feel you on that bc mine doesnt exactly like me "taking over" any of the rooms with plant things. I need a greenhouse! 

I havent had many problems with plants except with fruit plants. What i used just a pinch of was that orange bag of MG organic fert. It looks like worm castings but it brought back my leaves from the defiency it had(iron in blueberries).  Just my 2 cents.


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    #16325643 - 06/03/12 11:29 AM (2 years, 4 months ago)

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Ferrel which miracle grow are you using for your peppers

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i use bloom booster. i hadnt used it in a long time.

i used it once only. before i was using jobes knock out rose ferts. its organic and has beneficial bacteria.

bloom booster i used it to get more blooms because i know what kinda results i can get.

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woad there partner,you use miracle grow every time you water?What kind do you use,because I know if I did that my plants would be crispy twigs,hahaha!Mine can only take a weekly does,and sometimes bi weekly.




no not everytime. its for cacti. its the one like schults where you use it everytime you water.

i dont ofetn fertilize but whne i do its with the jobes organics.


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Re: plant problems [Re: ferrel_human]
    #16325720 - 06/03/12 12:01 PM (2 years, 4 months ago)

I like to use Dr. Earth liquid along with some seaweed extract. I find this works really well for just about all my nutritional needs. Cacti, veggies, houseplants, flowers, whatever.


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