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 DieCommie
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 Re: 500 greatest albums of all time list  [Re: VaeVictum]
#16312369 - 05/31/12 06:26 PM (11 months, 11 days ago) |
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I guess I dont really know what the magazine is about. But they should qualify it with 'Rock albums' or something then...
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Alabama Slim
Registered: 06/30/08
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Re: 500 greatest albums of all time list [Re: DieCommie]
#16312426 - 05/31/12 06:35 PM (11 months, 11 days ago) |
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Yeah I just went through the list again and the only rappers that made it were:
Public Enemy
NWA
Dre
Wu-tang
Raekwon
LL Cool J
Nas
Little Wayne
Notorious Big
Eric B and Rakim
Eminem
Beastie Boys
Outkast
Fugees
I'm not a huge rap fan and I dont claim to know much about it but if I've heard every one of the albums listed it shows they barely broke the surface.
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VaeVictum
Sativa Cyborg
Registered: 06/01/11
Posts: 4,397
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Re: 500 greatest albums of all time list [Re: Alabama Slim]
#16312450 - 05/31/12 06:41 PM (11 months, 11 days ago) |
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Quote:
Alabama Slim said:
I'm not a huge rap fan and I dont claim to know much about it but if I've heard every one of the albums listed it shows they barely broke the surface.
Beastie Boys have never had an album that wasn't just plain amazing.
VV
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mianfei
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Registered: 05/23/10
Posts: 54
Loc: Victoria, Australia 
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Re: 500 greatest albums of all time list [Re: VaeVictum]
#16319127 - 06/01/12 10:17 PM (11 months, 10 days ago) |
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Quote:
VaeVictum said:
Way too (expletive) much of the Beatles.
Bob Dylan belongs on there though. Iunno...the top 10 seems pretty iffy to me.
VV
I have never taken Rolling Stone’s list remotely seriously, for a number of reasons.
First of all is that between two and one years before the original list was published in 2003, I read on a webzine called Blastitude a list by a then-37-year-old critic called Joe S. Harrington after accidentally stumbling across the first installment googling “never even made the Billboard”.
The list was so interesting and so detailed, especially as I managed to devour the remaining three installments (two of which had already been published) and work out what was behind Harrington. Whilst even to this day I do not agree with all Harrington’s cultural perspectives, his musical knowledge was so good it completely changed my musical collection. Only thirty-one of the albums on Harrington’s list were on the Rolling Stone Top 500 when it originally came out in 2003, and the majority of the remaining sixty-nine clearly had influence on cultural fields such as rap and grunge that dominated the radical highpoint of the Bush Senior Era in the late 1980s and early 1990s. (Of course, in Melbourne’s cloistered suburbs nothing was visible to me as an adolescent).
Harrington’s clarity, as well as his knowledge, allowed me to see that commercial music of the 1980s, on which I grew up in a very cloistered suburban environment was totally derivative and mass-produced, and that even “underground” music of the 1990s was similar. People with a knowledge of such genres as metal, hardcore and industrial offer a similar perspective with a lot of evidence.
Another factor is that other writers such as Piero Scaruffi and David Keenan have offered a similar perspective, if often less detailed than Harrington’s original list but closer to the best perspective I can offer from a decade of “serious” listening to music.
When one has this sort of experience, Rolling Stone’s Top 500 simply reads as a list written by totally unqualified people who would be better trying to look more deeply.
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BeefheartisBetter
Bizarre Tard
Registered: 12/22/11
Posts: 3,082
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Re: 500 greatest albums of all time list [Re: mianfei]
#16319338 - 06/01/12 10:51 PM (11 months, 10 days ago) |
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Rolling Stone definitely plays politics when it comes to rating music,
and for that reason I say "fuck em".
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Chespirito
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Re: 500 greatest albums of all time list [Re: Alabama Slim]
#16319512 - 06/01/12 11:26 PM (11 months, 10 days ago) |
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Ive seen this, though not in a while. Its a list picked by a different generation. They are unaware of modern day music I guess, oh well. Personally I used to listen to Beatles, Beach Boys, Dylan etc... in my late teens / early 20's. I still like it but I much prefer modern day stuff 
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