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 Amphibolos
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 Quebec student strike 
#16276515 - 05/24/12 02:44 AM (11 months, 18 days ago) |
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We started our 100th day of strike tuesday
This 100th day was marked by a protest of 200k+ people in the streets of Montreal
Here is a video of one the streets The video
This protest was also in contestation against the new law 78 that the government created to divide the student movement.
I suggest that you take a look on this opinion letter if you want to know more about an anti democratic mean that try to limit our right of assembly.
Most of the informations about the conflict are in french, but im sure you can find some in english
There is also Cutv montreal that offer an array of videos about the differents actions in Québec
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Its a fight that we hope will spread to the rest of the countries
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DieCommie
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Re: Quebec student strike [Re: Amphibolos]
#16276758 - 05/24/12 04:11 AM (11 months, 18 days ago) |
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The new law 78 is only in Canada though. I doubt other countries will protest it.
So what is it about?
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Re: Quebec student strike [Re: DieCommie] 1
#16276873 - 05/24/12 05:17 AM (11 months, 17 days ago) |
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The students in Quebec are whiny, self centered twats with an overinflated sense of entitlement.
If you want to go to college... pay for it yourselves.
Stop inconveniencing others.
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luvdemshrooms said:
The students in Quebec are whiny, self centered twats with an overinflated sense of entitlement.
If you want to go to college... pay for it yourselves.
Stop inconveniencing others.
this is their web site http://www.stopthehike.ca/
It makes for fun news. watching them getting their knee caps exploded by the police !!!
Its awesome loll long live the world revolution and long live police brutality !!!
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Amphibolos
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Re: Quebec student strike [Re: Butt-Head]
#16277216 - 05/24/12 09:18 AM (11 months, 17 days ago) |
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Quote:
luvdemshrooms said:
The students in Quebec are whiny, self centered twats with an overinflated sense of entitlement.
If you want to go to college... pay for it yourselves.
Stop inconveniencing others.
Actually, most of the students are going to graduate before the hike fully take place, i wonder how you can call people self centered when they are fighting for the next generations...
Also, the government want to make us (the students) pay for his bad gestion of the public finances. If you live in Canada, you must be well aware that Quebec's debt is one of the highest in the country. All due to the neoliberal parties that litterally gave our natural resources to foreign companies that DONT have(or have absurdly low) royalties
Its not normal that people in the USA that profit from our hydroelectric dams, pay cheaper than us for each unit of electricity used.
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We think that granting school accessibility to a majority of students is a good choice for our society. Having high tuition fees will only remove the chances of the people that have talent but no money to pay. Have 60k $ in debts when we go finish our studies is, in my sense nefast for the individuals and for the society.
That said, i only wanted to spread the word to the shroomery, especially considering that alot of people here are from the USA's. If you have arguments pro-hike, im interested to hear em.
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luvdemshrooms said:
The students in Quebec are whiny, self centered twats with an overinflated sense of entitlement.
If you want to go to college... pay for it yourselves.
Stop inconveniencing others.
this is their web site http://www.stopthehike.ca/
It makes for fun news. watching them getting their knee caps exploded by the police !!!
Its awesome loll long live the world revolution and long live police brutality !!!
I hope you are sarcastic because that there is a chance that the movement will spread to your province. Also, having pacific students losing their eyes or ears isnt a thing that has to be laughed at, it shows that my province is turning into a fascist state and i dont like it.
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Re: Quebec student strike [Re: Amphibolos]
#16277429 - 05/24/12 10:36 AM (11 months, 17 days ago) |
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You think Quebec is fucked financially because of low resource leases? They have the lowest tuition in the nation.
Please explain to me why any government should pay for someone to major in anything other than science and engineering.
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Re: Quebec student strike [Re: zappaisgod]
#16277508 - 05/24/12 11:00 AM (11 months, 17 days ago) |
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> Please explain to me why any government should pay for someone to major in anything other than science and engineering.
Even with science and engineering, I think the government shouldn't be involved in handing out money. If private industry profits by having more scientists and engineers, then private industry can supply grant money to help educate scientists and engineers.
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Re: Quebec student strike [Re: zappaisgod]
#16277652 - 05/24/12 11:52 AM (11 months, 17 days ago) |
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This is our chance to annex the country while they are distracted. The fishing is great and there's lots of timber. Get the guns and move out boys. Canada here we come. 
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Re: Quebec student strike [Re: Seuss] 1
#16277694 - 05/24/12 12:03 PM (11 months, 17 days ago) |
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Seuss said:
> Please explain to me why any government should pay for someone to major in anything other than science and engineering.
Even with science and engineering, I think the government shouldn't be involved in handing out money. If private industry profits by having more scientists and engineers, then private industry can supply grant money to help educate scientists and engineers.
That is certainly a strong case. But there is absolutely no reason whatsoever why any government should ever fund a liberal arts major. They are utterly useless. Back in the day when only the best high school students went to university and not all of them were powdered on their bum and reflexively passed by self esteem enhancing professors there was actually some indicative value conferred by a liberal arts degree, i.e. it wasn't so fucking easy to get. Now? Any fucking jerkoff can get in and any jerkoff can pass and the value of that degree is 100% shit.
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Re: Quebec student strike [Re: zappaisgod]
#16278366 - 05/24/12 02:35 PM (11 months, 17 days ago) |
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zappaisgod said:
You think Quebec is fucked financially because of low resource leases? They have the lowest tuition in the nation.
Please explain to me why any government should pay for someone to major in anything other than science and engineering.
I never said that Québec was fucked, i said that the population and us (the students) are tired of being fucked. The governement want to raise the tuition fees only because they say that the universities lack fundings, yet as Seuss pointed out, the companies that profit of the patents developped in the universities with public money, dont even fund most of the researchs done. There is also a big loss of money that goes in the pockets of the rectorate of the university...There is their lack of funding
Considering the fees paid by liberal studies, we made a society choice to offer the opportunity of everyone to study anything at the same fee.
We base this on the belief that everyone will contribute in some way or another to the society. The artists, even if they dont make the society advance have a cultural impact on the rest of the society. The artist that major in visual arts, will try to find a job in his field (good luck for him) if he doesnt succeed, he still got a better overall perception of the society and can participate in the debates.
Something that wont necessary be achieved by someone that did a more manual job and didnt have the chance to study the impacts of history on the current society
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Re: Quebec student strike [Re: Amphibolos]
#16281677 - 05/25/12 02:22 AM (11 months, 17 days ago) |
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Its not normal that people in the USA that profit from our hydroelectric dams, pay cheaper than us for each unit of electricity used.
Give me a freaking break. You know what's not normal? The fact that my state takes in hundreds of MILLIONS of tons of garbage, medical waste, and even human waste from Canada. Canadian truckers are even responsible for spilling tons of human shit from canada into our communities, closing down entire blocks of neighborhoods. Take care of your own freaking garbage and waste, and pay for your own college tuition.
I had to join the service for the GI bill to help with the cost of higher education, and when discharged I still had to work full time while going to school. If you've got time to bitch and protest you could have worked instead and most likely paid off your tuition.
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Re: Quebec student strike [Re: Amphibolos]
#16282526 - 05/25/12 10:40 AM (11 months, 16 days ago) |
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Quote:
Amphibolos said:
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zappaisgod said:
You think Quebec is fucked financially because of low resource leases? They have the lowest tuition in the nation.
Please explain to me why any government should pay for someone to major in anything other than science and engineering.
I never said that Québec was fucked, i said that the population and us (the students) are tired of being fucked. The governement want to raise the tuition fees only because they say that the universities lack fundings, yet as Seuss pointed out, the companies that profit of the patents developped in the universities with public money, dont even fund most of the researchs done. There is also a big loss of money that goes in the pockets of the rectorate of the university...There is their lack of funding
You want to renegotiate patent rights? Fine. That has nothing to do with you. Or tuition. The students didn't earn those patents. You just want to suck of their fruits. Typical.Quote:
Considering the fees paid by liberal studies, we made a society choice to offer the opportunity of everyone to study anything at the same fee.
Pretty stupid choice.Quote:
We base this on the belief that everyone will contribute in some way or another to the society. The artists, even if they dont make the society advance have a cultural impact on the rest of the society. The artist that major in visual arts, will try to find a job in his field (good luck for him) if he doesnt succeed, he still got a better overall perception of the society and can participate in the debates.
No, everyone will not contribute in some way. Some contribute nothing, some contribute a little, some, far fewer, contribute above their consumption and some tiny number contribute a great deal.Quote:
Something that wont necessary be achieved by someone that did a more manual job and didnt have the chance to study the impacts of history on the current society
Who will have contributed much more than the history major. Quote:
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I would love to debate further with you guys, but honestly, i remark that i cant extend my argumentation to its finest in your language
You are representing your whine quite well.
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Re: Quebec student strike [Re: Therian]
#16282541 - 05/25/12 10:46 AM (11 months, 16 days ago) |
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I don't really understand this sense of entitlement young folks have. Where did it come from? It is pathetic. Pay your own way and stop crying and whining in the streets.
You all are acting like a bunch of spoiled toddlers throwing a tantrum.
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Re: Quebec student strike [Re: setb]
#16285726 - 05/26/12 12:28 AM (11 months, 16 days ago) |
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How come tuition has inflated so much over the years?
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Re: Quebec student strike [Re: snoot]
#16287478 - 05/26/12 01:49 PM (11 months, 15 days ago) |
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Because they opened up college to idiots who have no business being there.
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Re: Quebec student strike [Re: zappaisgod]
#16289153 - 05/26/12 08:53 PM (11 months, 15 days ago) |
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zappaisgod said:
Because they opened up college to idiots who have no business being there.
By any economic perspective, that should lower the price per student, not raise it.
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DieCommie
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Maybe not the price that each student pays, but it sure raises the cost that taxpayers pay to subsidize the schools. And if you free up taxpayer subsidies you could lower tuition for the few students who take college seriously.
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Re: Quebec student strike [Re: DieCommie]
#16289260 - 05/26/12 09:16 PM (11 months, 15 days ago) |
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That is why small, liberal arts schools where only the best students attend are so cheap, right?
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DieCommie
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Depends on how much subsidy they get. I went to a small school and a big school, each were extraordinarily cheap.
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Re: Quebec student strike [Re: DieCommie]
#16290878 - 05/27/12 05:09 AM (11 months, 14 days ago) |
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So it doesn't matter how much "they opened up college to idiots who have no business being there"... Yes, or no?
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