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Detoxification is a process that exists which we are just beginning to scratch the surface.

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Emmanuel Goldstein said:
I've already stated and will never back down from my statement that all disease is supported by poor colon health.

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ashfiken said:
This guy seriously acts like EVERY Md out there does if for the loot and lives to keep people on meds on purpose?! Quite pessimistic I must say and def not true... Some people do it to SAVE LIVES! Wow I know right?

And he begins into semantics with this alternative, integrative, yadda medicine... The principle is the same it's not pop medicine...

All disease comes from bad colons!!! Haha well I'll make sure to have some evil scientific doctor dig up there every year for a much needed colonoscopy!!! They might even figure out how to naturally cure my anal seepage I've obtained from juicing so much!


Jk I luh juicing though

Eg! You are too much !


Cat you know he can't viably explain those things He just wants to know why you won't talk to him abt statins! Ha

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I didn't upload this until now because I was still tripping when I wrote it and I didn't want to upload a DOH! like Dr Smock does all the time! But it seems pretty solid to me even though I'm covering a lot of bases in responding to you and leaving out TONS of solid info. If the length of it scares you, since there are no pictures I advise you go for a walk or something and skip it. It's what happens to me when I'm tripping, instead of rolling all over the god damn floor laughing and talking bullshit I tend to deep think and reflect and this shit just flowed so if you're not into a psychedelic thought process don't read this my man. snort you whiskey and drink your cocaine as Pat Travers says! Here goes running anus...

Wow! What a concert! Shirley is awesome. I saw them twice this week! And it's "does it" not "does if". No man, if you were in the mix when it all started in a previous thread you'd have a clue what you were talking about, what I said is it's dysfunction of Oxygen metabolism that effects the KREB cycle in a big way and this future clown said the KREB cycle isn't disrupted/altered and therefore doesn't play any role in disease. Hmmmmmmmm......... And yes colon health is one of the first things an integrative or functional MD addresses. But a clown you'll go to and bow down to will never address such an issue. They'll just write you another script for another antibiotic! Antibiotics cure everything according to some clowns because some of them have an anti-inflammatory effect though extremely mild, kind of like diflucan, which is what they should actually be prescribing just once, more often then not, not a billion times for each patient from what I'm discovering to get a real feel for what is happening, but that's another never ending story and of course not every case.

An in the know MD will generate a four page analysis of your stool and tell you exactly what is happening from what type of bacteria are present in the colon based on the stool all the way down to how poorly the food is being digested and everything in between. A doctor who knows what they're doing will look at a comprehensive breakdown of the various acids that can easily be present in urine due to the disruption of the KREB cycle.  Where a patient is within the range of typical tests but on one end of that scale should tip the hand of a disorder to a clown, but a clown will say " Ohh well! You're in range! Wanna squeeze my nose!?!" Whoop whoop whoop!

Some people are just plain imbeciles, excuse the language, now I'm getting tired of this and I've purposely remained vague for a reason and that was to make Dr Smock think but it's clear his brainwashing and Pot snorting have wrecked him, get it, rectum / wrecked him" Mr anal leakage! Ohh and you have anal leakage?!? Well this takes serious courage to admit and if you being honest you have a serious problem, maybe you're consuming olestra in some of the foods you eat because from what I understand it's still being used in specific markets, where dumb consumers live and if you're not consuming olestra maybe you're forgetting it's meant to be an out door as opposed to an in door? Know what I'm saying Mr soap picker upper? Ohh I'm just kidding man, but anal leakage? Bwhaa! And if your not absorbing 100% of your juices before they have a chance to leak out or you're anus you're in quite a mess an allopath will never be able to figure out.

Ever see that movie "Super Size It" or me or whatever it was called? 30 days on McDonalds and this dudes blood chemistry went from stellar to "Man your dieing!" according to his doctor. McDonalds pissed up a rope but thank goodness for free speech and all that jazz, like something called the truth! They can serve you any kind of cow at McDonalds. The ones I find the most interesting are the ones that can't walk anymore. They've either developed shin splints from romping around the pastures or signs of mad cows disease. I'm wondering how we could have a variant like Jabobs-Crutchfelds disease or what ever he hell it's called without a prion from bovine being involved here, but again, this is another story! Because this is all about juicing and we all know according to you that fluids aren't more rapidly absorbed through the colon wall then solid food is!  I mean after all you have fluid leaking out of that probably fat tail pipe of yours. Just kidding man, just kidding, because you're a lean mean fighting machine right! Optimal ATP producer you are! Wow!

I just got done posting that I know a guy who confided in me he's been on numerous antibiotics for well over a dozen years now and asked Dr Smock if he considered this a problem? Could pathogenic bacteria begin to occupy the entire colon if a high quality probiotic wasn't used for a significant length of time after an antibiotic regimen. He didn't even answer my question when I asked if even one stint on an antibiotic could kill off all of the beneficial bacteria in the gut. What you say? Mr Hey hey! He has dodged tons of questions and pulls posts after either thinking how ridiculous he sounded or did a quick google search and discovered he just stuck his foot in his mouth! Like with STATINS!!! He brought up statins and quickly tried his best to drop the issue which is exactly why I continue to press the issue. Get this? Does this sink in? He deletes constantly and dodges every single time. He's a dodging deleter, or is that a deleting dodger? Whatever, he may know big words that clowns use to either try to befuddle or mask bullshit. There's a word for this and it's called sophistry, slick sophistry and always needing to rely on super duper studies supported and paid for by big pharma or some foundation that was set up for all kinds of altruistic things! Cough cough!~~~~ blah blah blah! Pfft!

Does this make any sense to that monstrous brain of yours? I mean I realize it's so big and jam packed full of knowledge that you can afford to come in here and express yourself so boldly. You know what? If the same forces were actually interested in learning the truth about these things they'd dig deep and do an all out series of  serious unbiased true all variables let's get some answers research but like a Steve Barret they'll just refuse to do it and say it's unscientific, therefore I can't be bothered! Or like Dr Smock here, he'll just flat out refuse to watch a stinking video someone put out there that was extremely unbiased really and the producer interviewed many who opposed a particular issue the poster embraces. There were plenty of clowns in it but the producer was only able to demonstrate clearly biased and bizarre propaganda. I'll bet five fucking dollars he didn't watch Dr Chris Shade the PhD's theory regarding mercury and how it can hang up in deep tissue depending what type of mercury we're talking here. This is a great researcher we have here. One who has already made up his mind going into studies and isn't interested in hearing the other side because deep down on a subconscious level he doesn't want to know the truth because it will shake the foundations of his paradigm. It's amazing and so interesting to watch someones psychology unfold before my eyes. Why he gave me five mushrooms is way beyond my comprehension really. What's going on in this mind of his? Why does he delete and dodge and give me five shrooms? Keep it, take it back, there's a frigging feature to do so. You're calling me a nutjob in a slick way? There's something wrong here man.

And as far as medicines go and constipation, maybe I did exaggerate to drive home a frigging point that there are tons of them that do this and they are the ones most widely prescribed many times and when you do a quick search the first thing in each result says is medications cause constipation, you would think if something was more relevant they'd mention that first but other underlying health issues are a BIGGIE too, but they sure as hell don't come first and Dysbiosis is never mentioned! which we already know a front line clown has an extremely difficult time wrapping their heads around even though their own model, why people suffer needlessly and why we have the most expensive health care system in the world and the most pathetic at healing. Ohh we have a lot of cool shit but it's all completely unnecessary because a clown needs a super duper novel med that does dark magic by disrupting the normal healing process in most cases while completely ignoring the bodies incredible ability to completely reverse degenerative disease given the right tools and proper rest. I'm reading a book from my MD, I should have read a year ago, one of a trilogy and in it he openly debates the waste of time genetic research is short of very rare disorders. If that leaking ass of yours understood the role epigenetics are now playing you'd understand there is such a complicated relationship between genes themselves and what actually turns them on and off just to name a few. I watched c-span this week as a senator from Alaska pleaded with the senate to force the FDA to put the brakes on approving the release of a genetically modified salmon whose genes were sliced by some sort of virus and a lamprey eel I believe. The entire community involved in the ecosystem of Alaska are worried what impact such an organism will have on the environment let alone whoever eats these fish. Billions of years of evolution are down the tubes because of Frankenstein's who haven't done anything but create a seed that can withstand huge amounts of roundup and create weird proteins our bodies have never seen up until now but now use for cellualr repair, including our own dna instructions. Again, billions of years of evolution down the crapper because someone actually thinks they could have done better then nature. What kind of freaks do we have here? The same freak mentality that provide us with analogs from nature. They can't patent it so they tweak it in order to call it theirs but in the process it becomes extremely less therapeutic, EXTREMELY and always more, much more toxic! Ever watch a commercial for say arthritis and at the end they start to tell you the potential side effects to expect and what to watch out for? AWESOME SHIT!!! And by the way, I don't watch too much fluff on TV, so this gives me a great idea what may actually be being pushed on others. One should consider the possible side effects and wonder what goes unreported since phase studies require a mere 8 to 12 weeks of research hence the great statin debate going on now. To think that this drug has been destroying muscle tissue the entire time and hundreds of billions of dollars have been made in profits let alone overall sales.

Going back to the gut/colon, even clown medicine now recognizes there's a problem because they've coined the term "dysbiosis" 30-40 years after the fact that quacks were reporting it and saying "Look what we've discovered!" but went unheeded. I'm wondering why embrace the condition now all of a sudden? I'm wondering if dysbiosis includes leaky gut syndrome or will it take them another half a century to accept the premise and call it something "speschul" like "intestinal pathogen born tubal leakage" or "intestinal sieve disease". It's crazy to know there are thousands of researchers who have actually identified hundreds if not close to one thousand organisms that could be found in the blood through these tiny holes these pathogens create. Many seem to target specific organs while others act selfishly and target multiple organs/body systems and some seem to work in unison with each other. Is this a sign of intelligent evolution? What about my wife's friend who overcame Lupus after being told to basically get her details in order and make plans for the worst. Some SUPER DUPERR clown researcher from the university of Chicago medical school (I think, and Her name is Ustet, I'm pretty sure) has already said in a Utube Video there may be as many as 40 genes involved in that disorder! Well if this were even remotely true based on the speed at which they determine these things millions of people will die needlessly in the process. Clowns and their fancy smancy medicine. it always has to be something special instead of merely reversing the disease process. Hey! Look at it his way! Progressive integrative and functional Quacks are modifying the disease process, something you claim can't happen, as if you have something over nature's ability to rule things.

Now I have a proposition for you Mr anal leakage and Dr Smock. If I produced my blood work that proves that I had low to normal cholesterol and still developed artery and vascular disease diagnosed by Doppler studies, will this carry any weight regarding high cholesterol being the dominant issue? Not that it's an issue at all because I've been told it's not by a real healer who has taken Otto Warburgs discoveries to their logical conclusion. Ohh, I forget, you're probably so consumed by your own anal leakage you could care less who Otto Warburg was. This is interesting because this was never an issue with me until all of a sudden.

Talk about a gullible individual who is buying into every single thing they've ever heard come out of a clowns mouth and are buying some dude in med school's brainwashed propaganda. I'm not even interested in sharing my information any longer, I'll allow him to think I'm full of shit but it's interesting that that "toxins" and methods for  getting rid of them through protocols are bullshit but "TOXICANS" are real! and the generic anti histamines and what not work! At least I believe one of them was an over the counter antihistamine unless I'm mistaken or he realized he messed up again and edited it out as usual. I wonder if he gets such do overs in school or does he have every single piece of nonsense memorized and kisses brown starfish for extra credit.

TOXICANS! HA! This sounds like repugliCANS coming up with new terms for MexiCANS when they talk about building a fence to protect us. Just fluffy bullshit some rednecks who vote their districts want to hear, right? Or do they believe in a South American boogie man like Dr Smock believes in Toxicans but not toxins! Ohhh shit!

I knew this was going to get interesting but I didn't expect it to become bizarre beyond my wildest imagination. Yeah, I'll review all of the copies of my medical records pertaining to my PVD and PAD diagnosis of some quack clown and see if I can make it entertaining. I should have just gone and seen my MD but of course insurance doesn't cover these expenses short of diagnostics and meds should he determine I need a med. It absolutely sucks that there is this high level of collusion between the Insurance companies and the clown based model of healing. But when you dig deep you discover the same exact mechanism that props up meds and big pharma is deeply imbedded in the insurance industry too. This is completely crazy and is turning out to be one big pussy mess. I've already said I have deep respect for emergency room, surgical and other forms of allopathic medicine but it's the clowns on the front line who are to blame here. I said 250,000 die each year in hospital fuck ups, I wasn't exaggerating anal drip but these numbers pale in comparison to the number who die needlessly due to clowns who set up shop in our neighborhoods. I should have never trusted them one more time after recovering from some serious shit previously. But it boiled to to a copay and a belief that maybe they could get it right this time. I have top notch blue cross and blue shield for insurance and they actually have an integrative health care provider search engine but there isn't a single one in the program! Hmmmm...

And before I end this, another clown that Steve Barret loved to post on his site is now saying that too much calcium causes heart disease. I sub to his newsletter to get a feel for where a clowns head is at and boy is this dude a winner. He happens to do a lot of biking and considers himself an expert in nutrition and says table sugar is an awesome source of energy for a hard core athlete. A Dr Gabe Mirken, he used to be a heavy contributor to Steve Barret's website called "Quack Watch" I understand the twisted logic I guess because calcium is a constituent of artery build up so anything that's part of the buildup is guilty including blood components and all of the other goodies it contains. I asked future clown if a scab and interior artery and vein deposits have anything in common with one another and of course he countered with a pathetic question actually supporting my oxygen model. These clowns crack me up because as all of them fight with one another on whose theories are right while patients in their care die while patients who see integrative and functional MD's who share and compare notes, walk away off meds and living life large again, within months sometimes. This entire debate is well beyond the pale now.

Piss off to both of you, you're both way too heady for me. You both are way too brilliant for me to deal with any longer. I just can't handle the twisted logic any longer. To think that my interaction with the future clown all started when he posted a pathetic loser named Steve the "I couldn't even make it as a psychiatrist" Barret. He fucking failed the state boards for psychiatry! which is one of the greatest frauds to ever be perpetrated on mankind but it's sure as hell a big money maker for big pharma. Holy shit! Now their saying that glutamine plays an even greater role in schizophrenia but that this is no way discredits the dopamine model they say! Nice way of saying "Whoops! We fucked up!" Not that Glutamine is the answer either. Try insulin signalling issues of specific regions of the brain. Kind of like diabetes of the brain cells. They saw this years ago when they first developed the MRI and other sophisticated brain scans by tagging glucose with a radioactive isotope but dismissed it completely. Someone says "Douchebag says what?" to a psychiatric researcher and the psychiatric researcher screams "WHAT?!?!" Same stuff goes with a cancer researcher, completely dismissing Warburgs model on hydrogen let alone oxygen, both of which he won noble's for! This is funny!

Douchebag says what? Just kidding man, just kidding! You cool in my book! "The book of five ring circus" as opposed to the classic, The book of five rings.

And do you want to hear something really interesting? There are several researchers who are claiming that small amounts of psilocybin are beneficial to a schizophrenic or bipolar. Imagine that! A compound already proving to be extremely beneficial at controlling all forms of anxiety, including the anxiety related to death in the final stages of life on top of depression in the majority of cases and it is now being once again resurrected as being extremely beneficial at controlling major symptoms of psychosis and the negative symptoms related to such illnesses. Guys like Stanislav Grof must be peeing with glee reading this stuff. And I mentioned Magnets to a friend here very recently in a private PM but nebver got into it too deeply. There was incredible research being down many years ago using high powered magnetic frequencies that were actually curing two out of three of the most chronically untreatable depressives. I'm wondering if these high magnetic fields were healing insulin signalling issues of areas of the brain the beams were focused on. This is something I've been digging into lately so supper future clown may have to wait for me to make it through the Gerson book of 50 cases. I will read it but between required reading for my own personal work and other things that interest me even more, I'm hoping he doesn't hold his breathe because this will cause a problem with his oxygen metabolism eventually! as simple anoxia eventually becomes a dysox issue.


(edit) Yes, I am adding to this. It was funny to see Dr Smuck, I mean Smock! Just kidding! Just kidding! change his handle to "CatWrangler"! 69 no less! As if I were really trying to hide who I am. I was given a long leash by my MD and I basically hung myself but no worries, this is what he does with his patients, allows them to learn about their bodies under close scrutiny. I am willing to admit I was wrong on some issues but overall I was dead on and I'm even more dead on now that I've spent the past three or four months away from this place in deep reading of brilliant work and I mean hundreds of citations backed reserarch, most of which comes from Dr Smucks own research! See the o=irony here? That there own research can be used against them?. this is such a beautiful thing really because it demonstrates either a clear motive to find something else or a complete lack of being able to sift through their own details! So instead of him wrangling me he's ended up strangling himself Mr Duck and Pull that he is. Mr dodge the questions and post bullshit cut and pastes. Dr Smock who is well on his way to killing others if he doesn't wise the hell up and consider a toxin as real and treatable instead of having to call it a "Toxican" and use an antihistamine to rid the body of it! Now this is truly bullshit voodoo because these types of meds are toxic to the brain themselves but they're using it to eliminate toxicans! This is really absurd on so many god damn levels and I'm stunned at how he can't recognize any of what he is actually saying to all of us. His coined phrase is acceptable to you because some white face, colored lipped, rubber nose clown came up with it but our word and protocols are irrelevant to them. Talk about things that make one go Hmmmm... Boy are you ever a led by the nose sheeple. They need you dumbed downs like this in order to preserve the status quo, well guess what anal drip, things are a changing, they must be a changing if a clown calls a toxin a toxican. Ohh hell, I have to start my day, we have people coming over later on, on top of trying to figure out why my first folding computer won't use more then 50% of it's processing capacity. I think it's because of the video card I'm using but I'm not quite sure as of yet. I posted a comment to the folding thread, hopefully someone can come up with a solid answer. Yes, Isn't it ironic I'm into helping others study folding proteins? I do see merit a lot in all of this! Now this is cool science!

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Emmanuel Goldstein said:

And as far as medicines go and constipation, maybe I did exaggerate to drive home a frigging point that there are tons of them that do this and they are the ones most widely prescribed many times and when you do a quick search the first thing in each result says is medications cause constipation

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Emmanuel Goldstein said:
No man, if you were in the mix when it all started in a previous thread you'd have a clue what you were talking about, what I said is it's dysfunction of Oxygen metabolism that effects the KREB cycle in a big way and this future clown said the KREB cycle isn't disrupted/altered and therefore doesn't play any role in disease.

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Emmanuel Goldstein said:
And yes colon health is one of the first things an integrative or functional MD addresses

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Emmanuel Goldstein said:
A doctor who knows what they're doing will look at a comprehensive breakdown of the various acids that can easily be present in urine due to the disruption of the KREB cycle

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Emmanuel Goldstein said:
And before I end this, another clown that Steve Barret loved to post on his site is now saying that too much calcium causes heart disease.

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Emmanuel Goldstein said:
I produced my blood work that proves that I had low to normal cholesterol and still developed artery and vascular disease diagnosed by Doppler studies, will this carry any weight regarding high cholesterol being the dominant issue? Not that it's an issue at all because I've been told it's not by a real healer who has taken Otto Warburgs discoveries to their logical conclusion

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